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How long is long enough to determine if eliminating nightshades, coffee, eggs, almonds, etc, is beneficial for Rheumatoid Arthritis?

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I currently have Sjogrens Syndrome and Rheumatoid arthritis and am curious to see if I can take paleo to the next level by eliminating coffee, eggs, almonds, to see if one of those might be the culprit. I would be willing to test them all separately to find a comparison, but I am curious as to how long you all think is long enough to give it a true shot? Have people done this before and seen results after a few days, a week, a month?

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this is probably true for acute allergies or similar. But for chronic or low-level latent intolerance, it typically takes (at least in my experience) 3 weeks of elimination to feel the effects. There's also a stimulus response mechanism -- I changed my diet, and now I feel better -- that is essentially a placebo effect. Giving it the full 3 weeks dampens this effect.

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A friend of mine got better within a month, but he was completely gluten free. Paleo, that is.

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on June 06, 2014
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I was having joint pain and back pain several years ago. I tried those elimination diet with very little success. Milk, Egg white, nightshades, wheat, excess muscle meat caused problem immediately.

But, pain did not go away after removing these foods. I figured out that there were many foods that were

responsible for arthiritic pain. Milk caused problem the next day and went away after few days.

Egg ( i was ok with egg yolk) caused problem after a week of regular eating and it took a week or two to get over it. Muscle meat took few weeks and it took another week to get over.

Excess phosphorus and low calcium in muscle meat weakens bones and joints.

I have seen people getting better by removing one or two foods.

But, i do not think it is the case for most people. Thing that helped me most was an ayurvedic

laxative Triphala, you can use any other safe herbal laxative to keep the intestine clean.

Simple easy to digest food also keep intestine clean and happy.

Allergenic food irritates gut and it initiates a chain of responses that increases joint pain and

other autoimmune disease. Starch and soluble fiber are major cause of gut irritation .

Avoiding allergenic and hard to digest foods are they key to recovery.

You can do some thyroid tests TSH, total T4, Total T3 and reverse T3 to

see if your thyroid function is good. Low thyroid function is responsible for

joint pain and autoimmune disease. But, normal ranges for thyroid tests are

not reliable. TSH should be close to zero and T3 should not be below median value.

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on April 04, 2016
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Interesting what you mentioned about muscle meats...what meats do you stick to?

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Thanks to the both of you!

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http://www.precisionnutrition.com/elimination-diet

Everything you need to know on how to do an elimination diet.

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on June 04, 2014
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As with most food allergies it should be relatively immediately apparent if you are seeing a difference or not. If after two weeks you aren't seeing results, well, then there probably aren't significant results to be seen with that food having been eliminated. Two weeks is probably even too long. If a specific food is causing a specific condition then you should be able to add that food and get that condition consistently. Most of the food you eat is gone within 48 hours and almost everything after 72 hours speaking from a digestion perspective.

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on June 05, 2014
at 02:07 PM

this is probably true for acute allergies or similar. But for chronic or low-level latent intolerance, it typically takes (at least in my experience) 3 weeks of elimination to feel the effects. There's also a stimulus response mechanism -- I changed my diet, and now I feel better -- that is essentially a placebo effect. Giving it the full 3 weeks dampens this effect.

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