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Treating Graves's / Hyperthyroid with Goitrogens

Commented on March 04, 2014
Created March 02, 2014 at 7:45 PM

I have a buddy I've just "diagnosed" (unofficially) with Graves' - he's probably had it for six years, poor guy. Classic symptoms of hyperthyroid plus bugged out eyes. I know that Chris Kresser recommends low-dose Naltrexone for anti-inflammatory properties and low-dose lithium orotate (under close Dr. supervision) for antithyroid effects as opposed to the traditional treatment of "nuking" the thyroid or partial thyroidectomy. (I've heard bad things about both and don't want my buddy to be dependent upon thyroid hormone replacement for the rest of his life if possible). I've also seen some research recommending the use of selenium in Graves', and given its status as an autoimmune disease, it seems crucial to get the most virulent triggers (aka gluten and A1 casein) out of his diet - he hardly eats Paleo, unfortunately.

My question is whether goitrogenic vegetables and grains (like millet, which according to Chris Masterjohn has super-strong goitrogens that iodine supplementation can't neutralize as it can small doses of brassicas) would be beneficial for this condition. Surprisingly, I haven't found much info on it, besides quasi-mainstream fat-phobe Svetla Bankova's works, which claim that goitrogenic brassicas and soy allow one to heal oneself.

Also, for now I'll have him cut out all iodine sources (incl. fish and shellfish from the sea) and get his blood tested for hormones (which? Still have to read up on that, but probably some anti-thyroid antibodies as well as the usual hormones).

Any advice on a natural treatment/management of the disease is appreciated.

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on March 04, 2014
at 01:07 AM

Good point, as it is autoimmune. Heck even if it wasn't autoimmune, you don't want to rely only on naturalistic cures, because a thyroid storm can in fact be lethal (which isn't BTW too nice to know when your primary symptoms include powerful anxiety). But the point being, you do want to get this sort of thing diagnosed and under control before you tinker.

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on March 03, 2014
at 03:04 PM

Good info raydawg, thanks.

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on March 03, 2014
at 03:03 PM

Thanks Drael, have heard that copper is often deficient in hyperthyroid cases.

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on March 03, 2014
at 02:14 AM

Another source of copper is beef liver.

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on March 03, 2014
at 11:10 AM

Send your buddy to an endo or a natural practitioner, they can do a full thyroid panel to see TSH, T4, as well as autoimmune immunoglobbulins and they can prescribe LDN and methimazole or other stuff as needed.

LDN is very good at moderating autoimmunity, but unless you've the ability to write script, your diagnosis isn't going to help him, and treating him with food goitrogens isn't going to help. He'd have to eat a ton of raw cabbage, broccoli, etc. to get anywhere near the needed effect.

8b9c2dcd3dfc929a0428d3d6dac4918e

(70)

on March 04, 2014
at 01:07 AM

Good point, as it is autoimmune. Heck even if it wasn't autoimmune, you don't want to rely only on naturalistic cures, because a thyroid storm can in fact be lethal (which isn't BTW too nice to know when your primary symptoms include powerful anxiety). But the point being, you do want to get this sort of thing diagnosed and under control before you tinker.

Bac49edb31092c3d6db9d461485cb310

on March 03, 2014
at 03:04 PM

Good info raydawg, thanks.

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on March 03, 2014
at 02:13 AM

I had a breif reaction hyperthyroid. I can't tell you if goitergens are useful or not, although I used them. Limiting iodine certainly helped. Obviously iodized salt, and anything made with it (bread). Dairy products also have highish iodine, particularly cheeze, and coconut and cranberry have some iodine too. The medicine also reduces thyroid activity, but it has variable long term outcomes (30% remission, and some percentage of hypothryoid). Another thing I found useful was mineral balance. Copper and zinc balance seems to play a role, and I supplemented copper 1/week for a while. Magnesium helps with the anxiety, I took epsom salts baths here and there.

8b9c2dcd3dfc929a0428d3d6dac4918e

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on March 03, 2014
at 02:14 AM

Another source of copper is beef liver.

Bac49edb31092c3d6db9d461485cb310

on March 03, 2014
at 03:03 PM

Thanks Drael, have heard that copper is often deficient in hyperthyroid cases.

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