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Paleo diet and female hormone imbalance anyone?

Commented on August 06, 2014
Created August 05, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Hello everyone. I am writing this post less for advice and more to see if any others have had a similiar experience.

I have been on a autoimmune paleo diet for over 6 months now and am about to throw in the towel. I have Hashimotos which is why I gave it go. Before starting the diet I was taking one grain of Nature-Throid a day, now I am up to 3 grains.

Also in these 6 months I have had reoccuring cold sores (I usually get one every couple years, this past 6 months I have had 3), reoccuring boils that wont heal, reoccuring bacterial vaginosis, as well as irregular periods, NO sex drive (which is HIGHLY unusual for me), my breasts look deflated and no longer react to my cycle, my skin has a crepy appearance and is extremely dry, my hair is dull, and I have been VERY quick to anger with no drive to socialize at all. My mood has been terrible.

I have tried increasing carbs by adding rice and more fruit but honestly with only potatoes, rice, and root veggies as my options for carbs I am finding it impossible to get enough.

My symptoms seem to suggest that my female horomones are completely out of whack and my thyroid is suffering. This cant be healthy! Anyone else find themselves sicker then before?

Just an FYI, I am 39, 115 pds, 5'6''. I would say I exercise a moderate amount, though I have had no energy since starting this diet and my fitness has suffered.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on August 06, 2014
at 04:50 AM

hi @Shesupsidedown, have you been getting regular thyroid blood panels since the test ~3yrs ago? full thyroid blood workup/panel including antibodies.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on August 06, 2014
at 04:49 AM

hi @Shesupsidedown, have been getting regular thyroid blood panels since the test ~3yrs ago? full thyroid blood workup/panel including antibodies

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 06, 2014
at 04:39 AM

Well, if she's an MD then I would presume the diagnosis is legitimate. Are you getting the proper hormonal treatment? Did she prescribe any medication for you? Levothyroxine?

1-If so, are you taking it as prescribed?

2-If not, why didn't she prescribe any medication, is your condition sever or mild?

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on August 06, 2014
at 04:32 AM

She is a MD with a integrative focus. I read my blood tests, I am certainly Hashis.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 06, 2014
at 04:27 AM

I read this earlier from your comment: "My Hashimotos was diagnosed by my integrative doctor three years ago through blood test."

Integrative doctors, or Alternative medicine practitioners are not medical doctors, unless they went to an accredited medical school and received the required diploma and certification. Totally different things.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 06, 2014
at 04:11 AM

Public Service Announcement:

Naturopaths are not certified to diagnose Hashimoto's or any other medical condition. They are not doctors. Please go to a legitimate doctor, specifically an endocrinologist, if you believe you have Hashimoto's and wish to get an accurate diagnosis indicating what you truly may or may not have.

P.S. Naturopaths are quacks.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 05, 2014
at 09:42 PM

Eating 150g of carbs is a piece of cake.....all puns intended.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 05, 2014
at 08:25 PM

She has a BMI of 18 which basically makes her underweight. I don't think fasting for someone this thin should be advised. Especially someone who has infections. Fasting can weaken the immune system, so someone who is underweight, struggles to eat enough and suffers from infections should not be advised to fast. Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 05, 2014
at 06:01 PM

You might find that you don't really have anything at all. You might be over thinking it. Just eat normally until you're full. I don't really eat a whole lot of carbs (I'm a low-carber), but I do find it easy to consume an entire pint of heavy cream (about 1700 calories I believe) within a matter of minutes or spread out throughout the day. If you want to eat more calories, you could try that instead.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 05, 2014
at 05:58 PM

I don't think you should put too much stock in that diagnosis from your integrative doctor, they have a reputation of diagnosing just about anyone who walks into their clinic with some thyroid issue. Your diet sounds fine actually, what I don't understand however, is why you're forcing yourself to eat more carbs despite not having the appetite to do so. If you believe that "your condition" will worsen if you don't eat a bucket of starch everyday my advice would be, don't stress it, odds are you don't have anything at all. Go get yourself checked out by an actual medical doctor when you can.

A240b7f0b34292a510ac02f4f7208191

on August 05, 2014
at 05:14 PM

I apologize for my spelling mistakes! Eek!

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A240b7f0b34292a510ac02f4f7208191

on August 06, 2014
at 04:16 AM

Gastronomer: I was diagnosed by a doctor, not my naturopath. I 100% have Hashis.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on August 06, 2014
at 04:50 AM

hi @Shesupsidedown, have you been getting regular thyroid blood panels since the test ~3yrs ago? full thyroid blood workup/panel including antibodies.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 06, 2014
at 04:27 AM

I read this earlier from your comment: "My Hashimotos was diagnosed by my integrative doctor three years ago through blood test."

Integrative doctors, or Alternative medicine practitioners are not medical doctors, unless they went to an accredited medical school and received the required diploma and certification. Totally different things.

A240b7f0b34292a510ac02f4f7208191

on August 06, 2014
at 04:32 AM

She is a MD with a integrative focus. I read my blood tests, I am certainly Hashis.

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A240b7f0b34292a510ac02f4f7208191

on August 06, 2014
at 03:47 AM

Hello everyone!

Ok, let me address a few things. I know it sounds as if I am underweight, but I assure you for my frame I am thin but not skinny. I am very petite and small boned so 115 has been my healthy weight my whole adult life. My daughter, mother and grandmother are all small framed and thin. We have a joke that our bones are made of air as women we know who are a smiliar size seem to weigh 20 pds more then us. Its strange.

That said, I think its entirely possible since going paleo that I am deficient in vitamins and minerals...clearly something is going haywire. I wrote my naturopath to make sure we do a

comprehensive blood test this go round.

As for the amount I eat, I eat when I am hungry, which has always been not very much by the typical american diet. I tracked my calorie intake via myfitnesspal and averaged 1500-1800 calories a day which according to charts I have read, is healthy to maintain weight.

To address specific questions:

No Matt11, I cannot eat 3 cups of rice a day or 6 sweet potatoes. I would feel as if I am force feeding myself.

Janknitz, my naturopath due to my Hashimotos recommended I NOT go VLC.

Yuki, I dont consider what I am eating to be a lot of sugar as I only eat 1-2 servings of fruit a day and no other sweet things. My mood was horrendous when I was VLC, so I defintely need carbs.

So the question is, if I am eating a healthy amount of calories what is going wrong? I feel incredibly confused about how much to eat, what to eat, etc since going paleo. I have read plenty of info and still feel confused as my body just doesnt seem to jive with this diet!

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 06, 2014
at 04:11 AM

Public Service Announcement:

Naturopaths are not certified to diagnose Hashimoto's or any other medical condition. They are not doctors. Please go to a legitimate doctor, specifically an endocrinologist, if you believe you have Hashimoto's and wish to get an accurate diagnosis indicating what you truly may or may not have.

P.S. Naturopaths are quacks.

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on August 05, 2014
at 10:00 PM

I have to agree with others, you are underweight and not consuming a sufficient amount of calories. That alone could be the reason for your thyroid issues. Increase calories with fat. I'm not sure why you feel the need to eat at least 150 g of carbs, but go for safe starches, fruits and veggies. Make sure your fluid intake is adequate and you need a good electrolyte balance. Add some bone broth, meat on the bone, and gelatin to what you are eating, too. They will help gut integrity since you are battling auto-immune issues, there's a likelihood of gut issues whether or not you have GI symptoms.

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on August 05, 2014
at 08:54 PM

You are underweight, significantly. Sure, by BMI standards, you are just barely normal, but your health is nowhere near normal. You need to stop restricting your diet, eat until you gain 20-30 pounds.

150 carbs you cannot eat? That's 3 cups of white rice. Easy to eat that in a day. That's 6 sweet potatoes. Sounds like a lot? You've been undereating by a lot!

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 05, 2014
at 09:42 PM

Eating 150g of carbs is a piece of cake.....all puns intended.

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on August 05, 2014
at 07:44 PM

That sounds frustrating -I've dealt with the same bacterial problem, which is usually caused by sugar and starchy foods.

Unfortunately, your high intake of fruit, potatoes and rice will feed that infection, which can contribute to other full-body problems, including fatigue and crappy mood.

Many paleo practitioners cut those foods out altogether. You'll be healthier if you stick to a low carb diet with moderate protein and high fat.

I know you said your energy level and mood are already low, but my recommendation is to try fasting for a day. It helps your body use up whatever sugar is floating around in your system, which will stop feeding the infection. When you fast, your body can stop focusing on digestion and start focusing on healing and getting rid of toxins. Its been shown that in the first couple days of a fast, alertness and enwrgy go up. Following up with a high fat low carb diet will help more.

We all get discouraged from time to time - stay optimistic!

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 05, 2014
at 08:25 PM

She has a BMI of 18 which basically makes her underweight. I don't think fasting for someone this thin should be advised. Especially someone who has infections. Fasting can weaken the immune system, so someone who is underweight, struggles to eat enough and suffers from infections should not be advised to fast. Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

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A240b7f0b34292a510ac02f4f7208191

on August 05, 2014
at 05:42 PM

Here is a sample day of food for me:

Breakfast: 2-3 slices of bacon, some slices of a baked sweet potato, salad and/or eggs (not on the AIP but I added them back in)..or...pork sausage and veggie stir fry (a cup and half?) w/avocado

Lunch: A burger and salad with more sweet potato...or white rice (1/2 cup) with fish

Snacks: bananas usually or a avocado/coconut milk smoothie

Dinner: Some sort of meat, with two sides of veggies.

My Hashimotos was diagnosed by my integrative doctor three years ago through blood test. My levels are monitored every 6 months. Before starting Paleo my levels were getting better, I am scheduled to be retested this month.

I have not had my hormone levels tested in recent years as I never had an issue with them.

As for changes, I have been exercising less then usual although I suspect I am way more active on a daily basis then most. That said I dont do any crossfit type activities...mainly biking, hiking, yoga, swimming. No other changes.

My biggest challenge since going Paleo is eating enough carbs. I suspect I need 150g a day (at least) yet I have no idea how to eat that much. I would need to eat sweet potato with every meal in order to comsume one large one in a day. I simply dont eat a lot in one sitting generally. Am I to eat white rice and sweet potato all day, every day? That seems crazy! My carb counter tells me I would need to eat a full cup of rice, a large sweet potato, AND a couple of bananas just to get close to 150g. What have others done? What do you eat?

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 05, 2014
at 05:58 PM

I don't think you should put too much stock in that diagnosis from your integrative doctor, they have a reputation of diagnosing just about anyone who walks into their clinic with some thyroid issue. Your diet sounds fine actually, what I don't understand however, is why you're forcing yourself to eat more carbs despite not having the appetite to do so. If you believe that "your condition" will worsen if you don't eat a bucket of starch everyday my advice would be, don't stress it, odds are you don't have anything at all. Go get yourself checked out by an actual medical doctor when you can.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 05, 2014
at 06:01 PM

You might find that you don't really have anything at all. You might be over thinking it. Just eat normally until you're full. I don't really eat a whole lot of carbs (I'm a low-carber), but I do find it easy to consume an entire pint of heavy cream (about 1700 calories I believe) within a matter of minutes or spread out throughout the day. If you want to eat more calories, you could try that instead.

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Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 05, 2014
at 05:23 PM

We need more data:

-Current diet: staple foods, calorie intake, macronutrient composition, dietary restrictions, typical day's food intake, etc.

-Official* medical diagnoses. How was your Hashimoto's diagnosed? What are your hormone levels? etc.

-Any changes in amount of exercise, job, lifestyle, and other external factors?

*Not from a naturopath or chiropractor, but from an actual, legitimate MD, hospital or lab.

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