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Naturally boosting the Thyroid

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 21, 2010 at 9:44 PM

A recent blood test showed I have a TSH of 6.5! (I've also gained 3 stone in a short space of time and sleep ~12hrs a day) My doctor refuses to treat without another blood test in February (first was in November), with the result being higher or same, and then with T4 only. Nuts to that!

I eat mainly paleo, the non-paleo foods I eat are mainly chocolate, because try as I might I cannot kick my sweet tooth, this may be related to the hypothyroidism. The main foods I eat are lamb, pork, occasional fish and chicken; butter, eggs, coconut oil; veggies like onion, mushroom and broccoli; use 'losalt' and herbs and spices. Also eat small amount of starch from white rice and potatoes (a la perfect health diet, but not as much). Don't eat vegetable oils, grains other than white rice, fruit and rarely eat out or take aways. I practice IF about 18-20 hours a day, but it's not difficult as I'm asleep 12 of those.

I supplement D3 5000IU, chromium 200ug, magnesium 300mg, K2 2mg and iodine 10mg daily.

What foods, herbs, supplements, hacks, etc would help boost my thyroid and/or kick my sweet tooth.

I also suffer from long term depression and feel improving my thyroid will help this. Many drugs have not helped me, neither has 5-HTP, tyrosine, fermented cod liver oil with butter oil and higher doses of magnesium.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

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on February 23, 2012
at 08:18 PM

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83d6a06c93bb3490dbca339cbbb63385

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on November 07, 2011
at 06:57 PM

Eating more carb is a good thing when hypo, I think. At first I was zero carb but I think that was what made me crash.

83d6a06c93bb3490dbca339cbbb63385

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on November 07, 2011
at 06:55 PM

You are doing much of what I did (with more supplements and more carb), and now I am basically cured. I don't take thyroid medication anymore (even the tiniest dose possible gives me heart palpitations). It just takes time. A little iodine supplement can help a lot but MAKE SURE you don't have Hashimoto's first. Good luck to you.

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on April 22, 2011
at 01:15 PM

I don't like sweet potatoes, also Chris Voigt's 60 day (white) potato diet has shown they're not unhealthy.

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on April 12, 2011
at 11:44 PM

Just a thought. You may want to substitute black beans for white rice and try sweet potatoes instead of regular potatoes. White rice and regular potatoes turn into sugar very quickly in the body.

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on December 27, 2010
at 09:39 PM

Thanks for the link to thehealthyskeptic.org, it looks like a great, informative site.

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on December 22, 2010
at 03:26 AM

That is exactly what my comment was, and also speculating why their effects were different.

40e925ddc9657e211c9a2ee83c2cc579

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on December 22, 2010
at 03:07 AM

I read the answer, and I was simply stating what Armour is to avoid confusion. The fact that the over the counter didn't work is not relevant to my point. They are both the same thing, one didn't work, one did. So the OTC one is obviously not effective.

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on December 22, 2010
at 03:06 AM

I usually get about 150ug of Selenium a day from food and occationally take extra, so it's unlikely to be that. My stress levels are very high, mainly from my depression. Along with sleeping 12 hours a day, I get extremely fatigued with anything more than sitting all da,y so my cortisol may be off too. Do you know if I can get HTMA on the NHS at all?

40e925ddc9657e211c9a2ee83c2cc579

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on December 22, 2010
at 03:04 AM

I think hair analysis is worth doing in the long run, I've done so myself. But this person has only had a TSH test so far, there are a lot more thyroid and adrenal related tests that will provide a much clearer picture to allow for effective immediate treatment than mineral analysis.

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on December 22, 2010
at 03:02 AM

I will ask for a proper thyroid test in February, including T3, T4, RT4 and antibodies. My doctor dismissed those at first saying 'if you're TSH is off we'll check those', referring to the test I have now had. So it is likely that those will be tested, but in two months time.

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on December 22, 2010
at 03:00 AM

Read Dexter's answer, he clearly states that over the counter dessicated thyroid didn't help his wife, but prescription Armour did.

40e925ddc9657e211c9a2ee83c2cc579

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on December 22, 2010
at 01:18 AM

Armour IS desiccated thyroid

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on December 22, 2010
at 12:08 AM

Interesting that dessicated thyroid didn't help but Armour did, perhaps the dessicated is processed badly? I will try to get natural thyroid, but will have to wait until after my second blood test in February. Looking for non-prescription options though.

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on December 22, 2010
at 12:04 AM

I cook my broccoli properly, all my food is cooked.

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06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on December 21, 2010
at 11:39 PM

My wife had a TSH of over 7 and we tried over the counter desicated porcine thyoid gland and desicated adrenal gland all without reducing TSH. She finally relented and got a perscription for Armour thyroid and the TSH went down to around 3 and her energy level came way up and she does not need a 2 hour nap in the afternoon.

I am not aware of any other products that can stimulate the thyroid gland.

40e925ddc9657e211c9a2ee83c2cc579

(364)

on December 22, 2010
at 01:18 AM

Armour IS desiccated thyroid

40e925ddc9657e211c9a2ee83c2cc579

(364)

on December 22, 2010
at 03:07 AM

I read the answer, and I was simply stating what Armour is to avoid confusion. The fact that the over the counter didn't work is not relevant to my point. They are both the same thing, one didn't work, one did. So the OTC one is obviously not effective.

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on December 22, 2010
at 03:00 AM

Read Dexter's answer, he clearly states that over the counter dessicated thyroid didn't help his wife, but prescription Armour did.

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on December 22, 2010
at 03:26 AM

That is exactly what my comment was, and also speculating why their effects were different.

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on December 22, 2010
at 12:08 AM

Interesting that dessicated thyroid didn't help but Armour did, perhaps the dessicated is processed badly? I will try to get natural thyroid, but will have to wait until after my second blood test in February. Looking for non-prescription options though.

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16ac9720030cbf0908f56da404ab01b9

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on December 22, 2010
at 01:37 AM

Look on Chris Kresser's blog, thehealthyskeptic.org for his series on thyroid. He suggests that lack of selenium can play a role. Not suggesting you run out and buy the supplement just yet, but read Chris's blog, also Dr. Davis, heartscanblog.blogspot.com . Both of them mention it. Chris also suspect cortisol dysregulation as the likeliest cause of hypothryroid. How's your stress level?

I haven't seen it suggested here, but a hair tissue mineral analysis has been suggested as a good way to pinpoint imbalances of trace minerals. Google garymoller.com - I've corresponded with him and he's a stand up guy as well as a championship mountain biker in New Zealand in his mid 50s. His HTMA is reasonably priced and includes an interpretation from him.

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on December 22, 2010
at 03:06 AM

I usually get about 150ug of Selenium a day from food and occationally take extra, so it's unlikely to be that. My stress levels are very high, mainly from my depression. Along with sleeping 12 hours a day, I get extremely fatigued with anything more than sitting all da,y so my cortisol may be off too. Do you know if I can get HTMA on the NHS at all?

40e925ddc9657e211c9a2ee83c2cc579

(364)

on December 22, 2010
at 03:04 AM

I think hair analysis is worth doing in the long run, I've done so myself. But this person has only had a TSH test so far, there are a lot more thyroid and adrenal related tests that will provide a much clearer picture to allow for effective immediate treatment than mineral analysis.

622a34307765c2f7c1dfdc7345842418

(25)

on December 27, 2010
at 09:39 PM

Thanks for the link to thehealthyskeptic.org, it looks like a great, informative site.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 22, 2010
at 01:36 AM

sometimes we have to leave some tears for the being who past by.

herbs will support, on all level you wann them.

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on February 23, 2012
at 08:18 PM

eeeeeepppppiiiiicccc!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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40e925ddc9657e211c9a2ee83c2cc579

(364)

on December 22, 2010
at 01:23 AM

How long have you been paleo? Have you had a thyroid antibody test?

I have hashimotos and since going paleo 18 months ago have now corrected my thyroid levels, and antibodies have reduced fivefold. My Tsh was 32 when first diagnosed. I was on armour until recently but cannot tolerate it any more as there is no dose low enough to not produce side effects.

I would suggest finding a doctor who really knows what they are doing and will run all the appropriate tests, not just TSH. Important to get free T3 and T4 levels.

I attribute my improvement to the removal of gluten.

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on December 22, 2010
at 03:02 AM

I will ask for a proper thyroid test in February, including T3, T4, RT4 and antibodies. My doctor dismissed those at first saying 'if you're TSH is off we'll check those', referring to the test I have now had. So it is likely that those will be tested, but in two months time.

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Da77d9d897f13ef2e861ecb9162fba39

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on December 21, 2010
at 11:38 PM

You mentioned broccoli. Are you cooking your brassica vegetables (broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, etc.)? Large amounts of raw can be goitrogenic. Most people don't eat enough of them for it to be a concern. I'm hypothyroid and avoid them raw since I figure every little bit helps.

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on December 22, 2010
at 12:04 AM

I cook my broccoli properly, all my food is cooked.

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