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My Cruciferous dependance

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Hey all, With the anti-thyroid activity of components found in Cruciferous Vegetables, I am concerned I may eventually be having some chronic affect on myself if I keep up my current eating habits.

Typically I heat a generous serving of mince/coconutcream/onion mixed in with a boiled (I am aware this reduces potency) and rinsed serving of Cruciferous Vegetable (rotate between cauliflower, cabbage, brussel sprouts, bok choy, broccoli, turnip). They really make a great base to carry my fat/meat heavy meals.

I eat a meal such as this typically 1-2 times a day, so I am consuming alot of Cruciferous, which I used to think was great from my SAD perspective (anti-cancer blah blah).

Any great ideas on other vege species to fill this void, which aren't High Carb, so I can not be inhibiting my thyroid constantly?

Also, I can't figure it out, what do you think Cruciferous Vegetables natural protection from predators is?

p.s I am paleo for skin condition

Cheers guys!

535fafe8afe6923870905c707c4f4454

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on April 30, 2011
at 10:57 PM

This was my dilemma~! I thought I had a great rotation going on until I realized they all fall within the same category of vegetable! Not as much variety as I thought :S

4aa3281b2b5c6ec066c82675ee3df5f7

on April 30, 2011
at 07:00 PM

kale is also cruciferous

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on April 30, 2011
at 04:11 PM

Oh no! I <3 Brocolli and Cauliflower! :(

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 30, 2011
at 02:31 PM

Steaming them is best

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on April 30, 2011
at 02:14 PM

Mostly, but not entirely.

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A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on April 30, 2011
at 01:54 PM

I asked a question a while back:

http://paleohacks.com/questions/10208/are-vegetables-good-or-bad-or-neutral#axzz1L0uhLDOL

Tons of info that I won't repeat here. But the following from Stephen-Aegis bears repeating:

" Most vegetables don't want to be eaten.

Most vegetables have antinutrients/smallpoisons(goitrogen etc)

Cooking neutralizes alot of this, but not all.

I eat only cooked veggies, mostly meat and fat. If you look at the science instead of just opinion of former vegetarians, it becomes clearer

The poisons in the dose... Eat a large variety and you'll likely be fine(plus hormesis) but overeat one vegetable and potentially suffer the consequences of lectins, goitrogens, etc."

I would say two things:

1) Most Hunter-gatherer tribes include 100-150 different plants in their diet.

2) I wouldn't drop the veggies that you are eating unless you feel that you are experiencing specific negative effects from them. That said, think about rotating some other veggies into the picture: spinach/kale/asparagus/carrots/celery/zucchini/squash are just some off the top of my head. Eat the ones you like, but experiment!

4aa3281b2b5c6ec066c82675ee3df5f7

on April 30, 2011
at 07:00 PM

kale is also cruciferous

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on April 30, 2011
at 04:17 PM

Everything I've read about it suggests to me that it's not as much as a problem as I had originally feared. I get the impression that the amounts are negligible compared to what it would take to really have an effect, and the effect is countered by other things in it (it's been a while since I read up, so pardon my vagueness). Keep in mind the natural predators for the cruciforms are generally worms and small beetles.

I don't agree that it's bad to eat some of the same things daily, particularly if it's to address a specific problem or deficiency. I've been eating cabbage daily to try and heal an ulcer, and so far, it seems to be working because the severity has been significantly reduced. There would have been plenty of times that our ancestors would only have access to certain items (in season) that they would have eaten daily. Variety is conventional wisdom, and may well be just fine, but if we were living in a way where we could only get local, seasonably available foods, variety would not have been very likely in our diets.

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on April 30, 2011
at 02:24 PM

Just rotate. Never eat the same thing daily, whatever it is. Simply why would you? Variety is interesting. And try rotating in fermented versions of the cruciferous: kimchi, sauer kraut, etc.

535fafe8afe6923870905c707c4f4454

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on April 30, 2011
at 10:57 PM

This was my dilemma~! I thought I had a great rotation going on until I realized they all fall within the same category of vegetable! Not as much variety as I thought :S

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on April 30, 2011
at 01:50 PM

My understanding is that cooking inactivates the goitrogens of these vegetables.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 30, 2011
at 02:31 PM

Steaming them is best

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on April 30, 2011
at 02:14 PM

Mostly, but not entirely.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 30, 2011
at 12:34 PM

Just keep doing it. It's a great addiction to have because of the health benefits. Indole 3 carbinol and sulphlorane. Great job

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