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help design a pro-thyroid paleo diet?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 23, 2012 at 7:33 PM

seems like paleo can easily cause hypo-thyroid in people if they're not specific enough - can we do better?

can we tweak the paleo principles to maximize thyroid health?

please leave suggestions and i will edit as we go, thanks

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 31, 2012
at 06:53 AM

Staci your answer was clear to me, and on topic, the first time I read it!

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:55 PM

another peater, good deal, i'm a member of the facebook group. unfortunately there are flaws with your theories: one, i experimented with different milks, and creams, they all flared my IBD. so i cannot get ANY protein from dairy, besides a little cheese...

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:53 PM

great! let us know

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:53 PM

yeah ive heard this as well but i cannot digest starches well.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:50 PM

there's plenty of anecdotal evidence, in the same way there's plenty of anecdotal evidence that the paleo diet is god's gift.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 03, 2012
at 01:55 AM

is there evidence that paleo would increase incidence of hypothyroidism?

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on March 07, 2012
at 04:39 AM

How does one start this, though? What are the questions to ask? I know my region has selenium deficient soil - livestock is supplemented. But neither my regular doc nor my endocrinologist have ever even mentioned any of those three things.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on March 07, 2012
at 04:37 AM

(I was gluten free before primal/paleo - but the gluten thing really made me look harder at grains and other empty carbs)

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on March 07, 2012
at 04:36 AM

That reminds me of my endo commenting that MOST of her patients (mostly diabetic) were gluten intolerant and the ones who hadn't quit it sure ought to. Somehow a light went on for me. She saw me after about 3 months of paleo/primal and was just delighted with the results.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on March 07, 2012
at 03:18 AM

Soporificat....while i'm not gonna argue what your macronutrient ratio should be, I will state that I feel the same way about LC. Some people on paleo have hypothyroid....some people on LC have hypothyroid....I believe there is no causation in either case. Anecdotes of those curing hypothyroid symptoms with both are as prevalent as those saying these eating styles cause them if not more so.

Cd717290eb43a6e17061f9920deed977

(1267)

on March 07, 2012
at 03:00 AM

It's not the exclusion of grains, etc... that can be a problem, it is eating low-carb, and many Paleo folks do conflate Paleo with low-carb: http://paleohacks.com/questions/47760/does-paleo-lower-thyroid-function#axzz1oLTG4TL7

Cd717290eb43a6e17061f9920deed977

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on March 07, 2012
at 02:58 AM

Here's a thread about why Paleo can lead to hypo. It's not the Paleo, so much as the low-carb, which many Paleo eaters do: http://paleohacks.com/questions/47760/does-paleo-lower-thyroid-function#axzz1oLTG4TL7

1cee42e02a56ca9c13453ce4dd5cf53c

(212)

on February 27, 2012
at 08:38 PM

The point was that paleo has helped me manage my thyroid issues, thus the input of the endocrinologist. I did not need to tweak my paleo approach. Sorry that I didn't make that clear.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on February 26, 2012
at 08:11 PM

wow thats great for you and has NOTHING to do with the topic.

Cbb1134f8e93067d1271c97bb2e15ef6

on February 24, 2012
at 09:01 PM

http://www.askthelowcarbexperts.com/2012/02/7-the-long-term-effects-of-the-high-carb-sad-diet-dr-cate-shanahan/

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 24, 2012
at 03:22 AM

Maybe but it might be negligible if you take selenium.

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on February 23, 2012
at 11:48 PM

The advice to take kelp at all could indeed be very bad advice, depending on the type of thyroid trouble one has.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on February 23, 2012
at 10:41 PM

i agree that excluding grains, legumes, and dairy would not incline anyone to thyroid issues. grains, legumes, and dairy are not magic foods that make your thyroid healthier

C56baa1b4f39839c018180bf63226f7d

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on February 23, 2012
at 09:56 PM

Hypothyroidism due to Hashimoto's will probably require a different plan from non-Hashi hypothyroid.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 23, 2012
at 09:21 PM

http://chriskresser.com/chris-masterjohn-on-cholesterol-and-heart-disease-part-3 Just being the good guy greg.

2c2349bc7af0fedb59a5fe99dac9fae2

(2707)

on February 23, 2012
at 08:20 PM

Funny you say that. Just got my blood work done, and my t3 levels are low (free t4 and tsh were fine). I am thinking it is an iodine deficiency, so bought myself a bottle of kelp. We'll see if my numbers improve next time. I think many people on paleo can become low on iodine (see Chris Kressers last podcast w/ Chris Masterjohn), which can issues with the thyroid.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 23, 2012
at 07:49 PM

Wow! That's totally incompatible with koshrut laws. Blah.

Ef089e1180f240aa9fd2d089f7f38b45

(279)

on February 23, 2012
at 07:45 PM

For example Ray Peat recommends eating carb and dairy at the same time as red muscle meat as he claims that the amino acid profile of muscle meat is anti thyroid.

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1cee42e02a56ca9c13453ce4dd5cf53c

(212)

on February 23, 2012
at 09:54 PM

Been paleo for a year and saw my endocrinologist yesterday. He said he knew "caveman" eating style was the best 20 yrs ago. He was very pleased with all my numbers. 5 other family members have similar good results.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on February 26, 2012
at 08:11 PM

wow thats great for you and has NOTHING to do with the topic.

1cee42e02a56ca9c13453ce4dd5cf53c

(212)

on February 27, 2012
at 08:38 PM

The point was that paleo has helped me manage my thyroid issues, thus the input of the endocrinologist. I did not need to tweak my paleo approach. Sorry that I didn't make that clear.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on March 07, 2012
at 04:36 AM

That reminds me of my endo commenting that MOST of her patients (mostly diabetic) were gluten intolerant and the ones who hadn't quit it sure ought to. Somehow a light went on for me. She saw me after about 3 months of paleo/primal and was just delighted with the results.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on March 07, 2012
at 04:37 AM

(I was gluten free before primal/paleo - but the gluten thing really made me look harder at grains and other empty carbs)

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 31, 2012
at 06:53 AM

Staci your answer was clear to me, and on topic, the first time I read it!

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7f8bc7ce5c34aae50408d31812c839b0

(2698)

on July 03, 2012
at 03:40 AM

I'm hypothyroid. I've done VLC at 25gms veg carbs per day and my T3 was reduced and TSH rose. I went to 80+ gms starch carb per day and T3 rose and TSH fell.

I think for some hypos higher glucose producing carb intake is beneficial.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:53 PM

yeah ive heard this as well but i cannot digest starches well.

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A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on February 23, 2012
at 11:57 PM

This question asserts an unsubstantiated premise that paleo causes (or can cause) hypothyroidism. Without evidence supporting this premise, I'm not sure I would take seriously ANY advice offered in response. I am a person with hypothyroidism, by the way.

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 23, 2012
at 10:08 PM

I deny the premise that hypothyroid is any more prevelant in paleo eaters......but if you do have hypothyroid symptoms I found this book very good http://www.amazon.com/Still-Thyroid-Symptoms-Tests-Normal/dp/1600376703 He actually promotes a paleo like diet and categorizes 22 patterns of low thyroid function.

The book is very well researched and quite detailed approach to discovering and treating these different patterns.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on February 23, 2012
at 10:41 PM

i agree that excluding grains, legumes, and dairy would not incline anyone to thyroid issues. grains, legumes, and dairy are not magic foods that make your thyroid healthier

Cd717290eb43a6e17061f9920deed977

(1267)

on March 07, 2012
at 03:00 AM

It's not the exclusion of grains, etc... that can be a problem, it is eating low-carb, and many Paleo folks do conflate Paleo with low-carb: http://paleohacks.com/questions/47760/does-paleo-lower-thyroid-function#axzz1oLTG4TL7

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on March 07, 2012
at 03:18 AM

Soporificat....while i'm not gonna argue what your macronutrient ratio should be, I will state that I feel the same way about LC. Some people on paleo have hypothyroid....some people on LC have hypothyroid....I believe there is no causation in either case. Anecdotes of those curing hypothyroid symptoms with both are as prevalent as those saying these eating styles cause them if not more so.

3
01adafcb4dd4147c6af543f61eee60a8

on February 23, 2012
at 07:56 PM

Take kelp every other day and make sure you get 100carbs a day.

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on February 23, 2012
at 11:48 PM

The advice to take kelp at all could indeed be very bad advice, depending on the type of thyroid trouble one has.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 23, 2012
at 09:21 PM

http://chriskresser.com/chris-masterjohn-on-cholesterol-and-heart-disease-part-3 Just being the good guy greg.

2c2349bc7af0fedb59a5fe99dac9fae2

(2707)

on February 23, 2012
at 08:20 PM

Funny you say that. Just got my blood work done, and my t3 levels are low (free t4 and tsh were fine). I am thinking it is an iodine deficiency, so bought myself a bottle of kelp. We'll see if my numbers improve next time. I think many people on paleo can become low on iodine (see Chris Kressers last podcast w/ Chris Masterjohn), which can issues with the thyroid.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 24, 2012
at 03:22 AM

Maybe but it might be negligible if you take selenium.

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Dbe5290b790e6e2d2bd59d581d9cf164

on February 23, 2012
at 07:41 PM

Where have you heard or seen evidence of this? I've never heard this. saturated fat is a metabolism booster if anything. and seeing as when your insulin is low, your levels of glucagon are higher... the body would be consistently burning fuel, and not storing. I don't see how the would in any way create a hypo-thyroid condition.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 23, 2012
at 07:49 PM

Wow! That's totally incompatible with koshrut laws. Blah.

Ef089e1180f240aa9fd2d089f7f38b45

(279)

on February 23, 2012
at 07:45 PM

For example Ray Peat recommends eating carb and dairy at the same time as red muscle meat as he claims that the amino acid profile of muscle meat is anti thyroid.

Cd717290eb43a6e17061f9920deed977

(1267)

on March 07, 2012
at 02:58 AM

Here's a thread about why Paleo can lead to hypo. It's not the Paleo, so much as the low-carb, which many Paleo eaters do: http://paleohacks.com/questions/47760/does-paleo-lower-thyroid-function#axzz1oLTG4TL7

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C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 23, 2012
at 10:18 PM

Your going to have to have a handle on the ratio of selenium, iodine and cruciferious vegetables too.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on March 07, 2012
at 04:39 AM

How does one start this, though? What are the questions to ask? I know my region has selenium deficient soil - livestock is supplemented. But neither my regular doc nor my endocrinologist have ever even mentioned any of those three things.

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8bf26c53a0061137a760658c107bc512

on July 03, 2012
at 02:48 AM

  1. Consume enough carbs (at least 200 grams a day). The absolute best carbohydrate for your thyroid is going to be from sugar. Half gallon of OJ a day is simple.

  2. Avoid unsatured fats and stick with saturated. Milk, butter, coconut oil, beef are the best sources.

  3. Consume enough protein, mainly from dairy sources.

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=419742

That link explains most of it. After trying everything, this diet was the one that absolutely turned my thyroid issues around.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:55 PM

another peater, good deal, i'm a member of the facebook group. unfortunately there are flaws with your theories: one, i experimented with different milks, and creams, they all flared my IBD. so i cannot get ANY protein from dairy, besides a little cheese...

1
6a9436e85150c05a5a7455aceee32b2d

on July 02, 2012
at 11:32 PM

Hypothyroidism is present in a very large number of Americans, particularly females. I was diagnosed with it at age 41. The frequency I remember hearing was something like 30% of women over the age of 45 have it and most take meds (synthroid). I've never been too concerned with it because the medication I take is fairly simple and cheap and doesn't have any side effete. I had a bunch of health crises around the time I was diagnosed so that was the least of my worries.

But I am very curious to see if after a few months or more, my thyroid function might return to normal levels. That would be a big sign of health for me, and I would love to be medication-free!

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899c7a4fa18f0234fca05d38a5c305e4

on March 07, 2012
at 01:48 AM

I started eating paleo a couple weeks ago. I was Dx with hypothyoidism 10 years ago. I have a blood test for thyroid panel in two weeks so I should have an idea if paleo affects the thyroid. I will post results.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:53 PM

great! let us know

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