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Having trouble with autoimmune protocol. Snack foods? [Updated 2012-12-20]

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 26, 2012 at 4:46 AM

A little background on me and on my nutritional journey first:

  • 25, male, underweight, hard time meeting (large) daily calorie requirements, hard-gainer. I've had a fairly mediocre diet for most of my life: grain heavy, not a lot of meat, too much junk food and candy.

  • Diagnosed with Hashimoto's hypothyroid in the late 90s. Treated based on TSH values with Synthroid until 2010 when I switched to a naturopath. He added additional thyroid tests and tested for gluten anti-bodies (they weren't celiac-bad, but definitely intolerant). Switched to a Synthroid/Cytomel (synthetic T4/synthetic T3) regimen early in 2012 after worsening thyroid symptoms with big improvement.

  • Gluten-free in summer 2010, with various lapses (once-every-month-or-so beers until early 2011, "gluten-free" oats until end of 2011, etc.) and a lot of poor gluten-replacement food (Quinoa, rice, etc.) until about 5 months ago when I stumbled into Paleo (It Starts With Food). Gluten free generally improved most of my major digestive issues significantly, but many still remained.

My journey with Paleo began 5 month ago, and it's been a difficult one. Although I saw significant improvements in energy levels those didn't last long, and now I keep discovering new foods that cause me problems. Basically it's come down to leaky gut, autoimmune protocol. All grains, nightshades, nuts, seeds, eggs, vegetable oils (soy, etc) and dairy are now gone. Problem is, I have a difficult enough time keeping myself well-fed without having to remove nearly everything that's easy from my diet.

Because of this: I need suggestions for some easy, autoimmune protocol-compliant snack foods that I can obtain (or obtain the ingredients for) from the grocery store (or health food store).

Update (2012-11-27 19:54 EDT) - Thanks to everybody for the thoughtful replies. areyousuchadreamer's point about big, regular meals is a good one. My assumptions here about snacking being a good answer probably weren't so useful. To summarize the snacking options, though:

  • Juicing
  • Medjool dates, apples, beef sticks, tuna, sardines, bone broth, kombucha, and apple cider.
  • Avocados/guacamole

Update (2012-11-30 13:40 EDT) - Pre-making and freezing beef breakfast patties, a big pot of root vegetables, and keeping the crock pot filled up most of the time has really helped me get big, regular, non-irritating meals. Hooray for beef! Going to make some sort of veal sausage thing tonight to have ready to snack on during the weekend.

Update (2012-12-20 18:10 EDT) - Weight's down. 138 lbs to 132 lbs. Eating enough is harder than I'd expected. I guess one of the problems with eating nutritionally dense foods that help keep you from overeating is that those prone to undereating may eat even less. Lost a full inch off my waist.

Started tracking caloric intake a couple weeks ago and it seems like I was consistently deficit (1200-1800 calories). Doing marginally better since I've started tracking food intake (1600-2600).

B7646bb4582c3adfc977b57392c35a92

on December 24, 2012
at 01:33 PM

The whole thing can be incredibly disheartening and frustrating. It'd be nice if there were easier answers available, but so much of it seems like shooting in the dark. I keep considering doing one of those allergy panels, but I'm not sure what I'd do if beef and avocado ended up on my no-go list. :o

A0d4481f4b568e4edc7d8c72102dcfc1

on November 29, 2012
at 10:30 PM

Yay! Glad it worked out for you. You can make patties out of any ground meat, chicken, turkey, pork, etc. I'd make a few different kinds and alternate with veggies, it couldn't get any simpler! :)

B7646bb4582c3adfc977b57392c35a92

on November 28, 2012
at 03:05 AM

I just made up 2 lbs of your beef breakfast patties (http://autoimmunepaleo.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/three-herb-beef-breakfast-patties/). Only about 2/3rds of it actually made it into the freezer . . . but it's the first thing I've eaten in a few days that's made me feel well!

B7646bb4582c3adfc977b57392c35a92

on November 28, 2012
at 12:51 AM

Yes! This is an excellent point (always question your premise, right? :D). Snacking isn't the problem, it's regular, sufficiently-sized meals. /Easy/ is probably really more what I was after than /snacky/. Finding motivation to make food has been problematic. Lack of food -> low energy -> lack of energy to make food -> lack of food -> low energy, etc. compounded by most food making me feel unwell lately -> removing a lot of food (coconut is the latest casualty) -> reduced food options. I was doing better when eggs were an option, I'll have to figure out the big breakfast thing.

B7646bb4582c3adfc977b57392c35a92

on November 26, 2012
at 05:02 PM

Juicing is a good idea. I have a decent juicer, just need to use it. Ideas I've come up with so far: * Grass-fed beef jerky (mailorder is expensive, stuff in stores is all grain-fed and full of soy). * Self-contained fruits: bananas, avocados * Snackable vegetables: carrots, celery (I suspect I may have an adverse reaction to celery, though) Not many other ideas.

B7646bb4582c3adfc977b57392c35a92

on November 26, 2012
at 04:57 PM

Ideally 3-4 meals (breakfast, lunch, dinner, food-before-bed), but schedule constraints, low energy levels, and other excuses usually conspire to make that more like 2 meals. I went on crusade early this year trying to gain weight. Counting calories (used the About.com counter for about 2.5 weeks), eating a lot. It failed miserably, a big part of the problem is that I have such an issue with keeping myself fed properly (largely due to chronically low energy levels—it's a self-compounding problem) that I don't pay much attention to the macro breakdown. But: fat, protein, carbs in that order.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on November 26, 2012
at 05:51 AM

How many meals are you eating a day and what are the 'macros' ie proprtions of fat, protein and carbs?

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A0d4481f4b568e4edc7d8c72102dcfc1

on November 27, 2012
at 05:30 PM

Are you interested in eating snacks because you think it will help you gain weight? It sounds like you have a problem making sure you eat regular meals in general, and I don't know that snacking is going to be the solution to your problem. I would focus first on three big meals a day with adequate protein and a lot of fat. Your largest meal should be breakfast. Make some autoimmune protocol friendly sausages (easy - ground meat, salt, herbs), cook and freeze, and then heat a few up in a skillet along with a pile of veggies topped with a ton of coconut oil (I usually use 2-3 tablespoons). I have a post on my blog (autoimmune-paleo.com) with lots of breakfast ideas because I think it is one of the best ways to be successful on the autoimmune protocol :).

I have Hashis, have been on the protocol for about six months and also had a problem losing too much weight. I started eating a giant breakfast with tons of fat and I now have no problem, and don't need to snack. Snacking is difficult on this diet because the best foods to eat are not really snacky. That's why I think getting away from snacks and getting your nutrients at mealtimes might be better, especially if you have a hard time feeding yourself anyways.

If you are convinced snacking is the answer, maybe try things like coconut water, melting coconut oil and flakes with some honey and making little energy balls? I wouldn't focus on things like raw fruits and veggies, they will fill your belly but not make you gain weight!

Good luck, and I'd be interested to hear what works for you because you are not the only one with this problem.

B7646bb4582c3adfc977b57392c35a92

on November 28, 2012
at 03:05 AM

I just made up 2 lbs of your beef breakfast patties (http://autoimmunepaleo.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/three-herb-beef-breakfast-patties/). Only about 2/3rds of it actually made it into the freezer . . . but it's the first thing I've eaten in a few days that's made me feel well!

B7646bb4582c3adfc977b57392c35a92

on November 28, 2012
at 12:51 AM

Yes! This is an excellent point (always question your premise, right? :D). Snacking isn't the problem, it's regular, sufficiently-sized meals. /Easy/ is probably really more what I was after than /snacky/. Finding motivation to make food has been problematic. Lack of food -> low energy -> lack of energy to make food -> lack of food -> low energy, etc. compounded by most food making me feel unwell lately -> removing a lot of food (coconut is the latest casualty) -> reduced food options. I was doing better when eggs were an option, I'll have to figure out the big breakfast thing.

A0d4481f4b568e4edc7d8c72102dcfc1

on November 29, 2012
at 10:30 PM

Yay! Glad it worked out for you. You can make patties out of any ground meat, chicken, turkey, pork, etc. I'd make a few different kinds and alternate with veggies, it couldn't get any simpler! :)

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C877bb5b6c3fa00d2c08cee6079de438

on December 24, 2012
at 03:12 AM

I found out I'm gluten intolerant 4 years ago (maybe celiac?) and have made many changes to my diet, thinking I'm going to get better. I went to a paleo diet in January and despite some improvements, still had many health problems and cannot lose weight (opposite problem of you). I began working with a naturopath to get to the bottom of things, and got the results of an allergy food panel. The day of the appointment, I kept thinking "I'll be OK with anything else coming off the diet as long as it's not eggs." My jaw dropped when I saw the panel; gluten, grains, dairy, legumes (all expected), but egg whites, egg yolks, beef, avocado, nuts, green beans, raspberries, pineapple, peppers and a few other things I can't remember right now. These things have become the cornerstone of my diet! When I had to eliminate yogurt, cheese and grains I stuck fast to eggs for breakfast and snacks, and nuts and avocado for good fats/snacks. I kept my office at work stocked with Paleo Kits for emergencies. I enjoyed being able to use almond flour for paleo pancakes and breads, which I used in moderation. (I know it's not "strictly" paleo anyway, but I'm more interested in health and well being rather than legalism). I was drinking bone broth every day to heal my gut, mostly beef, but now I'm not sure if that's OK or if it's just beef meat that I need to avoid. I'm trying to wrap my head around this; I already spend SOOOOOO much time on food prep, I make nearly everything I eat from scratch, but my go-to snack and meal ideas will need to change a lot. And as far as eating out, it's nearly impossible to get anything quickly and out of the house that meets AI. I'll figure it out, but wow. Thank goodness for the interwebs, lots of good ideas here and elsewhere; and it's nice to know I'm not the only one going through this.

B7646bb4582c3adfc977b57392c35a92

on December 24, 2012
at 01:33 PM

The whole thing can be incredibly disheartening and frustrating. It'd be nice if there were easier answers available, but so much of it seems like shooting in the dark. I keep considering doing one of those allergy panels, but I'm not sure what I'd do if beef and avocado ended up on my no-go list. :o

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194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

(3979)

on November 26, 2012
at 11:02 PM

An avocado makes for a quick, slightly messy wholesome snack. Very autoimmune-friendly, in my experience. Sprinkle with sea salt and onion powder.

Or, make guacamole and use it as a dip for celery/carrot sticks. Crunch away!

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089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on November 26, 2012
at 05:09 PM

i am following the autoimmune protocol and my main snack foods are medjool dates, apples, beef sticks, tuna, sardines, bone broth, kombucha, and apple cider.

i need to gain a good amount of weight, too, and it's been hard since i also have a leaky gut. still trying to repair it.

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A5127d60bca783084f191f38ffa357a6

on November 26, 2012
at 03:07 PM

Hey bud I'm right there with you, I've started Paleo due to hashimotos, chronic hives, and chronic urticaria. I also have a problem gaining weight, but have a six pack and lean so I can't complain that much.

Do you juice? I make a drink with some cheap healthy ingredients, here's what it consist of:

  1. Half cup of Simply apple, apple juice

  2. Half a cucumber

  3. About 3 leaves romain lettuce

  4. Handful of celery

  5. Big pinch of cilantro

  6. A lemon or two worth of lemon juice

  7. Like 3 or so ice cubes

It's actually not bad, you can adjust as needed for your taste.

What snack idea's do you currently have?

B7646bb4582c3adfc977b57392c35a92

on November 26, 2012
at 05:02 PM

Juicing is a good idea. I have a decent juicer, just need to use it. Ideas I've come up with so far: * Grass-fed beef jerky (mailorder is expensive, stuff in stores is all grain-fed and full of soy). * Self-contained fruits: bananas, avocados * Snackable vegetables: carrots, celery (I suspect I may have an adverse reaction to celery, though) Not many other ideas.

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Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on September 16, 2013
at 12:36 PM

Texas210, I have chronic urticaria, 24 years now. I found a hives forum where a Taiwanese guy, Sam, suggested water therapy. I started it & my hives are 90% gone in only a week. DOSAGE: take your weight in pounds. Halve it. That's the number of ounces of PLAIN water to drink daily. Eg: if you weigh 100 pounds, then you drink 50 ounces daily. I drink a cup of water every hr for 12 hrs. It's free, safe, and it's working. Add salt to your water to avoid depleting your electrolytes. Also eliminate diuretic foods/drinks, eg tea and coffee. 1 cup of coffee removes 2 cups water from your cells.

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142d7e06e608cff536ab78e6ca78ce38

on April 12, 2013
at 11:53 PM

Pumpkin seeds are calorie dense and don't fill you up like nuts do.
Good luck.

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9ac9c3338d23798d2be463dfb098d287

on April 12, 2013
at 05:32 PM

I'm looking for snacks too. Primarily for traveling and in between meals. While traveling, I might be in meetings with others who do not allow many breaks, so I'm always looking for things to carry along with me until it is time for a bigger meal. Any ideas would be awesome!

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