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Does a paleo lifestyle present a goal and purpose for a person who is looking for change?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 20, 2011 at 3:38 PM

When you can present a goal and purpose which other people can and are willing to support you for, you create collaboration and you create a gigantic word-of-mouth campaign for your cause?

Do you agree or disagree?

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 23, 2011
at 02:14 AM

People who put a lot of focus into trying to accomplish something annoy you? Why?

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on May 20, 2011
at 06:25 PM

@Alex, so true about moms being the gateway to converting the whole family. All of the "paleo for the whole family" blogs I've read so far with recipes and practical applications have been authored by paleo moms driving the menu.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 20, 2011
at 06:20 PM

On online dating sites, there is one comment that automatically makes me close the girl's profile: "I live by the motto 'Work Hard Play Hard'!" Ummm...what ever happened to just hangin' out?

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on May 20, 2011
at 06:12 PM

Yeah, the vegans are the same. One true diet! We see 1000% more vegans converting to paleo than the other way around.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 20, 2011
at 06:06 PM

Oh man, I hope getting people interested in paleo is the complete opposite of leading people to Christ. "Ummm yeah, this one guy said something about grains and sugar being bad, but we don't really understand his mysterious ways, and you should definitely go on faith with this, okay? Also, our diet is the only one true diet. And if you ask me for tangible evidence, I will laugh at you."

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

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on May 20, 2011
at 05:47 PM

Kind of like one of my all-time favorite PH answers: http://paleohacks.com/questions/5877/are-you-extremely-judgemental-do-neolethal-eaters-hit-your-nerve/5919#5919 Adam Crafter: "You wouldn't believe me if I told you."

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

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on May 20, 2011
at 05:43 PM

Seems like you might be asking three questions? (Not necessarily a bad thing): 1. Is paleo something that people do just because they need some kind of goal in their lives? Or: 2. Once you set your goal do you use other people's support to keep you going? Or: 3. Once you set your goal *should* you use other people's support to keep you going?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 20, 2011
at 05:26 PM

For one thing, she is just making an analogy. If being Christian is so great (replace "Christian" with any other religon, or way of being) then proof "should be in the pudding". Beyond what she is saying, let's face it. There is something messianic about all of these diets.

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 20, 2011
at 05:07 PM

You relate getting others interested in paleo to converting people to mystical craziness? We might have a problem here.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on May 20, 2011
at 05:04 PM

And if you look at all 250 in the pizza line, how many are carrying at least 20% more weight than they should be?

91219405abedbfd400ce00dea242a00f

(1044)

on May 20, 2011
at 04:56 PM

Sad to say, I have yet to meet anyone else at my school that follows a Paleo lifestyle. The line of 250+ for a slice of free pizza only confirms it.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on May 20, 2011
at 04:54 PM

Oh, absolutely excellent Mothers and Medical Students. RG said that in his class of 200 in California, there might be two or three that might practice evolutionary/paleo medicine. Same at your school?

91219405abedbfd400ce00dea242a00f

(1044)

on May 20, 2011
at 04:48 PM

There are two very important groups we can target to gather a wide audience for the paleo approach. I believe that it is easier to plant seeds of change and let them grow rather than chop down the tree. One very important group is medical students. It may be too hard to get current physicians to change their views, but it is not too late for the students who will be physicians later. A second group is Mothers. Putting sexism aside, mothers are often the ones who cook and feed their families, and many LOVE to blog about it. Getting a mother to go paleo likely gets the kids and husband too.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on May 20, 2011
at 04:26 PM

In that case, here's my opinion. People like goals and purposes. Paleos, Free Tibet-ers, Neo-Nazis. Rallying cries sometimes seem dumb to me though. Group mentalities go along with craving "expert status". In my current estimation, paleo equals "natural plus evidence-based". But not everybody holds the same views, and their views can be equally valid.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 20, 2011
at 03:46 PM

its asking for your opinion and I am genuinely interested to hear this groups ideas.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 20, 2011
at 05:24 PM

People who are very goal-oriented annoy the hell out of me, like Yuppies.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 20, 2011
at 06:20 PM

On online dating sites, there is one comment that automatically makes me close the girl's profile: "I live by the motto 'Work Hard Play Hard'!" Ummm...what ever happened to just hangin' out?

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 23, 2011
at 02:14 AM

People who put a lot of focus into trying to accomplish something annoy you? Why?

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91219405abedbfd400ce00dea242a00f

(1044)

on May 20, 2011
at 04:37 PM

There's a specific social psychology principle that I always think about it when I plan to introduce one of my friends or family members to something new. It seems that people will more likely get into something if they "discover it" on their own. The feeling of discovery is extremely strong in getting accustomed to something. For example, you are more likely to enjoy a song you hear on the radio or find by yourself than one that a friend recommends.

The best way to get others to follow something you are doing is by not forcing it upon them. I never try to get my friends to eat Paleo forcefully. After my roommate noticed that I was eating gluten-free for a while, she asked me why? I explained to her in simple terms without telling her that she should do it as well. When a person asks, and gets an answer, they feel like they were able to "discover" why. The next week she comes hope from shopping with gluten-free waffles and gluten-free granola for herself. Not paleo, but a step in the right direction.

I've used this same principle in many other situations. If you are working in a group with someone and know that a choice will have to be made, you can more efficiently get your way by arguing for the choice you don't actually want. People are much more likely to disagree than agree, and your partner will likely go for the choice you didn't pick (which is what you want). This allows them to feel like it was their idea. This may seem crazy, but it indeed works 95% of the time because we like to feel in control.

So all in all, the best way I think to get your friends and loved ones paleo or closer to it is by not preaching about it unless they ask and let the results you acquire (weight loss, better health) speak for itself.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on May 20, 2011
at 05:47 PM

Kind of like one of my all-time favorite PH answers: http://paleohacks.com/questions/5877/are-you-extremely-judgemental-do-neolethal-eaters-hit-your-nerve/5919#5919 Adam Crafter: "You wouldn't believe me if I told you."

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1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

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on May 20, 2011
at 03:48 PM

I think all passion is more meaningful if it comes from within. Doing something to amass support is almost always going to be less successful and less fun than doing something because it is fun, personally meaningful, or just plain awesome. :)

I suggest you focus on your own passion and let others do as they will.

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21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 20, 2011
at 03:41 PM

Not sure if this question is really answerable. Goals can be good, paleo or not.

Is there a way to make the question more hack-like?

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 20, 2011
at 04:26 PM

In that case, here's my opinion. People like goals and purposes. Paleos, Free Tibet-ers, Neo-Nazis. Rallying cries sometimes seem dumb to me though. Group mentalities go along with craving "expert status". In my current estimation, paleo equals "natural plus evidence-based". But not everybody holds the same views, and their views can be equally valid.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 20, 2011
at 03:46 PM

its asking for your opinion and I am genuinely interested to hear this groups ideas.

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06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on May 20, 2011
at 04:10 PM

We have all experienced failure in trying to enlist others not on the paleo path to embrace our personal goals and intentions to live a more healthy life via paleo.

It seems to be very difficult to create that collaboration among friends and family to create that gigantic word-of-mouth campaign for a paleo lifestyle.

As someone else said, it they were selling used cars as effectively as they are selling the paleo lifestyle, they would be fasting forever!

We are getting the horse to the water, but the horse is getting dehydrated.

Beating people over the head doesn't work.

Does it have to come from the bottom up from paleo consumers or top down from the elite writers, thinkers, researchers, bloggers that embrace paleo? Convert the mainstream press? Convert TV doctors like OZ or the personalities on the TV show The Doctors? that hold sway over incredible audiences? Or Opra..except she is gone now.

I fear it is hopeless in the face of Monsanto and Agri lobbyists that have no interest in killing their business by not manufacturing wheat and its hundreds of thousands of derivities. They have bought the food pyramid, the FDA and the USDA and the politicians that heap billions in subsidies of your tax dollars onto agribusiness.

PaleoHacks, what is your successful sales pitch to the non paleos? How to create that big megaphone word of mouth campaign The Quilt wants to create?

91219405abedbfd400ce00dea242a00f

(1044)

on May 20, 2011
at 04:48 PM

There are two very important groups we can target to gather a wide audience for the paleo approach. I believe that it is easier to plant seeds of change and let them grow rather than chop down the tree. One very important group is medical students. It may be too hard to get current physicians to change their views, but it is not too late for the students who will be physicians later. A second group is Mothers. Putting sexism aside, mothers are often the ones who cook and feed their families, and many LOVE to blog about it. Getting a mother to go paleo likely gets the kids and husband too.

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on May 20, 2011
at 06:25 PM

@Alex, so true about moms being the gateway to converting the whole family. All of the "paleo for the whole family" blogs I've read so far with recipes and practical applications have been authored by paleo moms driving the menu.

91219405abedbfd400ce00dea242a00f

(1044)

on May 20, 2011
at 04:56 PM

Sad to say, I have yet to meet anyone else at my school that follows a Paleo lifestyle. The line of 250+ for a slice of free pizza only confirms it.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on May 20, 2011
at 04:54 PM

Oh, absolutely excellent Mothers and Medical Students. RG said that in his class of 200 in California, there might be two or three that might practice evolutionary/paleo medicine. Same at your school?

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on May 20, 2011
at 05:04 PM

And if you look at all 250 in the pizza line, how many are carrying at least 20% more weight than they should be?

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C9b0f49cc58a60afffe5ca15f823efb0

on May 20, 2011
at 04:37 PM

I relate getting others interested in Paleo with leading people to Christ. You can pound their head all day long, it's not going to convert them. It's all about leading by example. They see the results and it speaks louder than words. That's how I made the decision to go Paleo. It's all about results! Of course, I'm going to blog my success to hopefully lead others to "enlightenment." :D

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 20, 2011
at 05:07 PM

You relate getting others interested in paleo to converting people to mystical craziness? We might have a problem here.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 20, 2011
at 05:26 PM

For one thing, she is just making an analogy. If being Christian is so great (replace "Christian" with any other religon, or way of being) then proof "should be in the pudding". Beyond what she is saying, let's face it. There is something messianic about all of these diets.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on May 20, 2011
at 06:12 PM

Yeah, the vegans are the same. One true diet! We see 1000% more vegans converting to paleo than the other way around.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 20, 2011
at 06:06 PM

Oh man, I hope getting people interested in paleo is the complete opposite of leading people to Christ. "Ummm yeah, this one guy said something about grains and sugar being bad, but we don't really understand his mysterious ways, and you should definitely go on faith with this, okay? Also, our diet is the only one true diet. And if you ask me for tangible evidence, I will laugh at you."

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