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Please speculate! Why am I noticing the smell of thiamin everywhere?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 29, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Previously I posted a question about two unfamiliar smells I had started to notice all of a sudden. I couldn't positively identify either smell.

(http://paleohacks.com/questions/165577/why-am-i-noticing-new-smells-in-familiar-foods-improved-digestion-overload-defi#axzz2GTdy5COh)

Today I opened a bottle of supplemental thiamin, and immediately identified one of the smells. It's almost definitely the thiamin I'm smelling in the pills, because I opened a bottle of riboflavin with identical "other ingredients" and did not smell the smell at all.

The question now is: why am I suddenly peeing out a bunch of thiamin and at the same time finding the smell so appealing?

Could it be improved uptake in the gut? Improved manufacture by gut flora? Is my herbal remedy causing me to purge a store of thiamin? (And if so, where would such a store have been and what function would it have had?)

Care to speculate?

Background: I have been taking some herbs my acupuncturist had given me, first to "drain dampness" and then to "move liver chi" and I initially assumed that it was either something from the herbs or something they were causing me to excrete.

I am seeing the acupuncturist about a case of "non-infectious" epididymitis. My theory is that, in improving my gut health, I evicted a fungus from my digestive tract and it took up residence in my epididymis instead. My doctor did a urine test that came back negative for pathogens, but I'm not convinced that the test would catch everything.)

The herbs did not have an immediate effect, but over the course of several weeks my epididymitis has been improving.

At the time when asked to describe the weird smell in my urine, I couldn't think of anything similar. However, several weeks later, I was eating chicken and I found a dark strip of meat near the ribs that was very appealing. Later I found a similar appealing flavor in turkey, and I realized it was the same as what I had been smelling in my urine. I've noticed that beef has this aroma very strongly. The goose we had for Christmas dinner had it most strongly of anything I've had to this point.

I find the smell very appealing.

I've gone pretty far out on some limbs with diet and supplements, but I had never experienced new aromas in familiar foods prior to this summer (when I began to notice and have an aversion to what I believe were oxidized fats in aerosol).

If I had to guess, I would say my gut has never been healthier at any time that I can remember.

My gut and skin health have been a perplexing puzzle for years. This seems like an intriguing new bit of evidence, but I'm not sure what to make of it. I'd appreciate any well-reasoned speculation!

Thanks!

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on December 31, 2012
at 03:46 AM

Hmmm... I doubt this. I started smelling this smell places (first in my urine, and then in some foods, then later realized that the smells were the same) but I could not identify it. That would be like going through life and never remarking on a red car ONCE and then all of a sudden fixating on them. I've clearly eaten all of these foods before, and never once remarked on this dimension of their aroma/flavor, and now it's one of the dominant things I notice while eating them.

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on December 30, 2012
at 05:24 PM

Do not question the ability of paleo to give folks supersensory superpowers! hah.

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on December 30, 2012
at 03:12 AM

Most recently I took the thiamin today after reading Paul Jaminet's recommendations to take various b-vitamins once weekly. Until recently I had also been taking a multivitamin that I imagine included some amount of thiamin. I had the bottle thiamin that I opened today from some experimentation earlier. I was trying biotin for seborrheic dermatitis, but that triggered acne. Someone had speculated that it might be competing with other b-vitamins for absorption, so I tried taking biotin in the morning and other b-vitamins at night, but the acne continued, so I stopped the experiment.

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on December 30, 2012
at 03:06 PM

Probably because you're recently aware of it. I'm sure you've had days where you've noticed tons of red cars everywhere, or when you've learned a new word, you've started hearing it, or seeing it everywhere. It's just that our brains are pattern recognition engines.

Perhaps you do need more of it, but then, perhaps not.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 30, 2012
at 05:24 PM

Do not question the ability of paleo to give folks supersensory superpowers! hah.

747f9c27424619fe3ae717c7455c292e

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on December 31, 2012
at 03:46 AM

Hmmm... I doubt this. I started smelling this smell places (first in my urine, and then in some foods, then later realized that the smells were the same) but I could not identify it. That would be like going through life and never remarking on a red car ONCE and then all of a sudden fixating on them. I've clearly eaten all of these foods before, and never once remarked on this dimension of their aroma/flavor, and now it's one of the dominant things I notice while eating them.

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on December 29, 2012
at 11:12 PM

Interesting. Thiamine is a nutrient that can be short supply in the paleo diet. It's mainly found in grain products and wheat germ. It's also in lean pork but I hardly eat much pork.

What's your reason for supplementing thiamine?

747f9c27424619fe3ae717c7455c292e

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on December 30, 2012
at 03:12 AM

Most recently I took the thiamin today after reading Paul Jaminet's recommendations to take various b-vitamins once weekly. Until recently I had also been taking a multivitamin that I imagine included some amount of thiamin. I had the bottle thiamin that I opened today from some experimentation earlier. I was trying biotin for seborrheic dermatitis, but that triggered acne. Someone had speculated that it might be competing with other b-vitamins for absorption, so I tried taking biotin in the morning and other b-vitamins at night, but the acne continued, so I stopped the experiment.

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