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Should U.S.Paleos Unite in 2012 To Throw Neolithic Bourgeois Trash Out?

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Created July 22, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Republicans and Democrats continue to advance the neolithic agenda: protection of corporate property rights, plunder and devastation of the environment, the poisoning of our food and water. Despite populist right-wing rhetoric from nutjobs like Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachman or slick, centrist-liberal rhetoric from the likes of Obama, good-paying jobs get sent overseas to sweatshop labor. Obama is basically a hypocritical version of Bush. He's in bed with Wall Street and the War Profiteers. The top 1 percent of the population owns 38 percent of the wealth. The bottom 40 percent own 1 percent. Meanwhile America's elementary and secondary school systems are literally the laughing stock of the world. Idiots like Sarah Palin may not care about education. Obama's buddies can send their children to fine private schools. Meanwhile, that leaves the rest of us in the shit-house.

Please sing that song to me again. You know, the one about America being the greatest country in the world, because I am beginning to forget the words. However, if you sing it long enough and loud enough, maybe I will believe you. And while your at it, please tell me that you love me, so I don't feel like a slut.

We need a revolution. A real one. Not one that features angry, middle-class, white boys from the Rotary Club dressed up as Paul Revere. Not an ersatz one that runs cover for corporation so they can continue to poison and milk the world and then find a tax-haven in the Bahamas. A real revolution that brings the bastards down.

In the meantime, we should support the few TRULY (not nominally) progressive voices we have in our national government. I recommend Vermont's Bernie Sanders for President.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 22, 2011
at 06:42 PM

You just won my heart, CaveRat :) Totally agree with every point.

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on July 22, 2011
at 06:33 PM

I'm ALL for socialism - and not the parody of it shouted by those who are scared of it cutting into their profits. Nor some simple-minded idea that individuals are subsumed into some kind of mass group-think. Real social systems are complex and beautiful and not simplistic applications of some feel-good slogan. OK - sorry about that, almost got my steam up there. Getting off soap box now...

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on July 22, 2011
at 06:17 PM

The more 'Paleo' I get the more obsessed I am about food *politics* which directly feeds into national and international politics, which are way too controlled by the uber-rich - which totally fucks up our lives and our food. And I think Bernie Sanders is wonderful. Him and Alan Grayson and Bob Sheer but he isn't running. And Ray Peat :-)

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on July 22, 2011
at 06:13 PM

At least I'm not from the rotary club

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on July 22, 2011
at 06:03 PM

Of course, considering that hunter/gatherers are non-propertarian, non-hierarchical, perhaps the OP has some good paleo points re corporations etc.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on July 22, 2011
at 06:01 PM

This I can happily support as PaleoHacks appropriate politics.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 22, 2011
at 05:58 PM

I was thinking the same thing...whereas politics in the sense of political party, etc. may not be a uniting factor in the paleo community(ies) we have common ground when it comes to food politics...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 22, 2011
at 05:52 PM

And I love you. You're not a slut.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 22, 2011
at 05:50 PM

Oh man. I'm giving this like, 5 minutes till its closed :) But I will answer: YES. YES. YES. Angry white boys from the rotary club are processed, packaged crap and give me leaky gut.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 22, 2011
at 06:08 PM

Totally agree with Meredith. Our politics shape our food choices and more important, they shape the research. If it weren't for politics being supported by the corporations, we would have real research - not research funded by Monsanto, Kellogg's, et al.

Today, our entire food industry is just that - a profiteering industry. Food should be a-political and outside of the corporation. Dare I say that our food choices should be socialist? NOT to be confused with nationalist where our government shapes it but by the people, of the people, for the people.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 22, 2011
at 06:42 PM

You just won my heart, CaveRat :) Totally agree with every point.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on July 22, 2011
at 06:33 PM

I'm ALL for socialism - and not the parody of it shouted by those who are scared of it cutting into their profits. Nor some simple-minded idea that individuals are subsumed into some kind of mass group-think. Real social systems are complex and beautiful and not simplistic applications of some feel-good slogan. OK - sorry about that, almost got my steam up there. Getting off soap box now...

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on July 22, 2011
at 06:23 PM

I think it is clear that TMS is correct. And I think more of you agree than it may seem. After all, I see libertarians like Salatin complaining that government regulation defends big business and makes life difficult for small farmers. Is that because big government just wants you to eat bad food? Or is it because the government represents big business at the expense of human health?

If you agree, here's some intellectual ammunition:

UPDATE: I just want to point out that the first person to suggest evolutionary analysis of nutrition was Friedrich Engels. You can read a short article all about Engels' theories of meat and the brain, or read his longer, Darwin-influenced work, in which he writes:

Labour begins with the making of tools. And what are the most ancient tools that we find ??? the most ancient judging by the heirlooms of prehistoric man that have been discovered, and by the mode of life of the earliest historical peoples and of the rawest of contemporary savages? They are hunting and fishing implements, the former at the same time serving as weapons. But hunting and fishing presuppose the transition from an exclusively vegetable diet to the concomitant use of meat, and this is another important step in the process of transition from ape to man. A meat diet contained in an almost ready state the most essential ingredients required by the organism for its metabolism. By shortening the time required for digestion, it also shortened the other vegetative bodily processes that correspond to those of plant life, and thus gained further time, material and desire for the active manifestation of animal life proper. And the farther man in the making moved from the vegetable kingdom the higher he rose above the animal. Just as becoming accustomed to a vegetable diet side by side with meat converted wild cats and dogs into the servants of man, so also adaptation to a meat diet, side by side with a vegetable diet, greatly contributed towards giving bodily strength and independence to man in the making. The meat diet, however, had its greatest effect on the brain, which now received a far richer flow of the materials necessary for its nourishment and development, and which, therefore, could develop more rapidly and perfectly from generation to generation. With all due respect to the vegetarians man did not come into existence without a meat diet.

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on July 22, 2011
at 05:55 PM

Why are politics not "PALEO"? Don't political powers shape our abilities to make choices that effect our "PALEO" lifestyles. Things like whether raw milk (if you go that way) is made available, things like the USDA Food Plate, things like the fact that most of our animals are fed grains and waste products cast off from politically protected agri-business, things like making certain vitamin supplements illegal?

Let me be clear, I wish I were more politically agile - more knowledgeable about this stuff. Maybe we all should be. Let's work on this :)

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on July 22, 2011
at 06:01 PM

This I can happily support as PaleoHacks appropriate politics.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 22, 2011
at 05:58 PM

I was thinking the same thing...whereas politics in the sense of political party, etc. may not be a uniting factor in the paleo community(ies) we have common ground when it comes to food politics...

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on July 22, 2011
at 06:17 PM

The more 'Paleo' I get the more obsessed I am about food *politics* which directly feeds into national and international politics, which are way too controlled by the uber-rich - which totally fucks up our lives and our food. And I think Bernie Sanders is wonderful. Him and Alan Grayson and Bob Sheer but he isn't running. And Ray Peat :-)

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on July 22, 2011
at 06:03 PM

Of course, considering that hunter/gatherers are non-propertarian, non-hierarchical, perhaps the OP has some good paleo points re corporations etc.

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5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on July 22, 2011
at 05:48 PM

I have to say that I agree with TomInTexas. Much as I may agree or sympathize with your views, I don't think that paleo (or any other WEO) are tied or should be tied to politics. I'd like this to be one of the places in my world that is politics free.

On the other hand, +1 for a really great rant that speaks my mind also.

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on July 22, 2011
at 05:42 PM

Thomas, nice to see reports of your leaving were exaggerated! That said, I think this post has a shelf life??? seems rather political.

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