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Heart Disease in gorillas

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 13, 2011 at 2:47 PM

Apparently 40% of male gorillas die of heart problems before the age of 30, and 70% above the age of 30... when they live in captivity.

Could this be as a result of low testosterone that would probably occur with living a more sedate and sedentary lifestyle than their evolution would normally dictate?

And if so, should we be learning from this not to live our lives "in a zoo" which is what the majority of us do?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-04-06-gorillas-at-risk_N.htm

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on October 14, 2011
at 12:18 PM

I apologize for wanting evidence. In future I shall just take your word for things.

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on October 14, 2011
at 12:00 PM

True, basing medicine on evidence is a bit silly. I should get more into the medicine based on no evidence. It's probably more fun :)

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on October 14, 2011
at 11:59 AM

True, basing medicine on evidence is a bit silly. I should get more into the medicine based on no evidence). It's probably more fun :)

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on October 14, 2011
at 11:49 AM

I should get more into the medicine not based on evidence. It's probably more fun :)

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on October 14, 2011
at 10:00 AM

You obviously hang too much on SBM to notice.

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on October 14, 2011
at 09:56 AM

Not all obviously.

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on October 14, 2011
at 09:08 AM

Do people still believe that stuff?

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on October 13, 2011
at 07:13 PM

Like I said, there is only one medicine, the one which works. How will you name it is irrelevant.

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on October 13, 2011
at 06:37 PM

Everything plays a role. Low T is a risk factor, and so is the crap that they feed them.

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on October 13, 2011
at 06:22 PM

Maj is our orthomolecular poster! Plus one.

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on October 13, 2011
at 05:32 PM

Who knew that gorillas, humans and actually every animal is healthier when fed the diet they evolved to eat? Who the hell runs these zoos?

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on October 13, 2011
at 03:28 PM

Well, they feed gorillas a diet of "enriched" biscuits. What did they expect would happen?

http://www.ecorazzi.com/2011/02/21/obese-gorillas-go-on-healthy-plant-based-diet-to-shed-the-extra-pounds/
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/07/new_diet_for_apes_at_cleveland.html

Of course, vegetarian activists have tried to jump on this and claim it's proof that people need to eat a completely plant based diet to be heart healthy, however they fail to mention that gorillas eat 40-60 lbs of plant matter every day. The human digestive system simply cannot handle anywhere near that kind of volume, which is why we need to eat fatty animal products. I would be impressed if someone could eat 10 lbs of plant matter a day, let alone the 25-35 it would take to sustain an active lifestyle. Clearly its the low carb, not the high plant, part of the diet that helped the gorillas become more heart healthy.

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on October 13, 2011
at 06:06 PM

Gorillas like man suffer heart disease because they cannot make their own vitamin C. This supports Pauling/Rath theory of heart disease (lack of vitamin c synthesis, wild animals don't have heart disease). When you put them on natural diet, full of vitamins and with less sugar and starch, they are better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P9A74LvPxU8#!

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on October 14, 2011
at 11:59 AM

True, basing medicine on evidence is a bit silly. I should get more into the medicine based on no evidence). It's probably more fun :)

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on October 13, 2011
at 06:22 PM

Maj is our orthomolecular poster! Plus one.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on October 14, 2011
at 12:18 PM

I apologize for wanting evidence. In future I shall just take your word for things.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 13, 2011
at 07:13 PM

Like I said, there is only one medicine, the one which works. How will you name it is irrelevant.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 14, 2011
at 09:56 AM

Not all obviously.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on October 14, 2011
at 11:49 AM

I should get more into the medicine not based on evidence. It's probably more fun :)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 14, 2011
at 10:00 AM

You obviously hang too much on SBM to notice.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on October 14, 2011
at 09:08 AM

Do people still believe that stuff?

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on October 14, 2011
at 12:00 PM

True, basing medicine on evidence is a bit silly. I should get more into the medicine based on no evidence. It's probably more fun :)

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