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Solutions for Transparent Teeth?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 15, 2010 at 11:30 PM

About 2 months after starting paleo, I noticed my front teeth were starting to get transparent on the edges. Since I have lived my entire 40 years without this problem, seems likely my new eating style is implicated. Advice?

1e372dc8b47350de5ab8e27f477e0b18

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on March 25, 2014
at 02:07 PM

Same problem but my dentist thinks I grind my teeth. Looks like calcium and magnesium sups are the way to go (based on other answers).

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on April 12, 2013
at 10:19 PM

@Ed it's a standard thing to do on Stackexchange sites, and IIRC your own "accept" doesn't give you any reputation.

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on October 19, 2012
at 10:13 PM

Haha, my skin's more transparent than white, just like my teeth.

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on October 19, 2012
at 07:25 PM

The natural sweetener xylitol is shown to increase re-mineralization of teeth.

7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

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on February 05, 2012
at 07:49 PM

Thanks for this: my teeth have been nearly transparent for as long as I can remember: I'll try increasing my calcium and see if I notice any improvement. (I already supplement with magnesium.)

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on November 04, 2011
at 08:52 AM

Crazy and awesome in equal measure.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on November 03, 2011
at 01:47 PM

Dang that's crazy, that's just your typical cal/mag supplement. That is crazy.

3ff1d99d7cdd1e55ac424da91cbc1ea0

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on November 03, 2011
at 01:37 PM

Crazy isn't it! I'd have never thought it possible. I just grabbed some Calcium/Magnesium tablets from Boots chemist (i'm in the UK). Ingredients listed are as follows (although the bottle doesn't state there's vit D3 on the front) : Calcium Carbonate, Magnesium Oxide, Cellulose, Maltodextrin, Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose, Cross-linked Sodium Carboxymethylcellulose, Silicon Dioxide, Colour (Titanium Dioxide), Magnesium Stearate, Stearic Acid, Talc, Acacia, Sucrose, Maize Starch, Triglycerides, Vitamin D3, Antioxidant (Tocopherol).

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on November 02, 2011
at 09:35 AM

That's some pretty substantial results. What form of magnesium and calcium did you use?

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on November 01, 2011
at 11:30 PM

fixed the link now

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on November 01, 2011
at 10:41 PM

The link is bad.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on November 01, 2011
at 03:24 AM

Also I was already taking calcium and magnesium when this happened, and am still taking mag, so it wasn't lack of minerals. The only other change was how often I cook in cast iron now (a LOT!) -- that may be related to the staining.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on November 01, 2011
at 01:33 AM

I'd be interested in seeing the before and after pictures if you don't mind.

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on October 19, 2010
at 11:18 PM

Wow--I didn't know you could accept your own answer as "the" answer :)

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on October 17, 2010
at 12:36 AM

Calcium is also regulated by magnesium! ;-)

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on October 16, 2010
at 04:49 PM

my dentist told me the same thing as Kati's, and I noticed my transparency in my teeth before I started eating paleo. I thought it was just a sign of age?

5841391284e7af8c495c54bd90d3a795

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on October 16, 2010
at 05:30 AM

Maybe SAD food makes our teeth cloudy! LOL!

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on October 16, 2010
at 01:13 AM

I think this is correct

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on October 16, 2010
at 01:02 AM

Spreading? Uh oh. Have you been to the dentist lately?

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on October 16, 2010
at 12:20 AM

I am relatively white, but not as the driven snow. I tan decently so I am only very white on those areas that do not see daylight.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on October 16, 2010
at 12:19 AM

It definitely was not there before going paleo. I keep an eye on my teeth. I saw it when it started and figured maybe it was no big deal and then I was dismayed as I watched the transparent part slowly spread..

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62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on October 17, 2010
at 12:13 AM

Actually, this happened a number of months ago, and it sorta freaked me out and set my brain to thinking. Once I figured out that my calcium and magnesium intakes were not to suggested RDAs, I immediately began supplements. I began taking 700 mg of calcium and 333 mg of magnesium per day. That's not really a lot actually. It bears noting that some feel that higher intakes of meat and caffiene increase magnesium needs. That plus when I went paleo, I cut out potatoes which have a lot of magnesium (at least compared to most other foods). So there was reason to suspect I may have been borderline before paleo and changes in diet were enough to put my magnesium intake into the deficient category.

Results were that immediately, it seemed the progression of the transparency stopped, but I didn't want to say anything here until I gave it time to see what would happen. What has happened is that by now, about 2/3 of the transparency has filled back in. Interestingly, it's been filling in with a blotchy erratic pattern mostly starting at the edges of the teeth. Also, the new white stuff is actually a tad whiter looking then the rest of the tooth. I really haven't changed my diet much other than the supplements. Later, I did start consuming coconut milk a few times per week, but that was after the teeth already started to improve.

Personally, I don't think transparent teeth are natural. And I wanted to tell people what worked for me and explain why I am now a big advocate of maintaining decent magnesium and calcium intake. That does not mean I advocate consuming vast quantities of these minerals, just that I advocate making sure you are getting decent levels regularly. Now the question is, which of these minerals fixed it or was it both? Or was it just a giant n=1 coincidence that the supps correlated with lessening transparency? Once my teeth are fully white again, I may try cutting out the calcium and seeing what happens.

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

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on October 19, 2010
at 11:18 PM

Wow--I didn't know you could accept your own answer as "the" answer :)

7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

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on February 05, 2012
at 07:49 PM

Thanks for this: my teeth have been nearly transparent for as long as I can remember: I'll try increasing my calcium and see if I notice any improvement. (I already supplement with magnesium.)

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 12, 2013
at 10:19 PM

@Ed it's a standard thing to do on Stackexchange sites, and IIRC your own "accept" doesn't give you any reputation.

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3ff1d99d7cdd1e55ac424da91cbc1ea0

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on November 01, 2011
at 12:17 AM

Thanks Eva, I too had the same issue and just fixed it with mag and calcium supps after reading your post. Been paleo for years and just noticed this issue getting much worse the last 6 months. I drink a lot of black coffee so maybe that was leeching something, but i'm not gonna stop drinking it. I supplemented with mag and calcium combined 400mg per day and a week later my teeth are back to white again! crazy as they were literally transparent across horizontal lines on the front two. the body is an amazing thing. i have before and after (1 week) pics if anyone is interested, otherwise just get some mag and calcium supplements and try it for a week. i also got some tooth soap 'peppermint whip' at the same time but i imagine it's the supps that did it, thought about being scientific and only using one at a time but i was just keen to get them white again.

Thanks again!

Before and after 1 week here: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/f9fb5

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on November 01, 2011
at 01:33 AM

I'd be interested in seeing the before and after pictures if you don't mind.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on November 01, 2011
at 10:41 PM

The link is bad.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on November 02, 2011
at 09:35 AM

That's some pretty substantial results. What form of magnesium and calcium did you use?

3ff1d99d7cdd1e55ac424da91cbc1ea0

(255)

on November 01, 2011
at 11:30 PM

fixed the link now

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on November 03, 2011
at 01:47 PM

Dang that's crazy, that's just your typical cal/mag supplement. That is crazy.

3ff1d99d7cdd1e55ac424da91cbc1ea0

(255)

on November 03, 2011
at 01:37 PM

Crazy isn't it! I'd have never thought it possible. I just grabbed some Calcium/Magnesium tablets from Boots chemist (i'm in the UK). Ingredients listed are as follows (although the bottle doesn't state there's vit D3 on the front) : Calcium Carbonate, Magnesium Oxide, Cellulose, Maltodextrin, Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose, Cross-linked Sodium Carboxymethylcellulose, Silicon Dioxide, Colour (Titanium Dioxide), Magnesium Stearate, Stearic Acid, Talc, Acacia, Sucrose, Maize Starch, Triglycerides, Vitamin D3, Antioxidant (Tocopherol).

3ff1d99d7cdd1e55ac424da91cbc1ea0

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on November 04, 2011
at 08:52 AM

Crazy and awesome in equal measure.

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6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

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on October 16, 2010
at 03:19 AM

This condition may be harmless, but intuitively I would think that the more calcium you have in your enamel, the less translucent it would be. Calcium in your teeth is regulated by vitamins D and K2. I would supplement with D and K2 if you're not already doing so.

Get your 25-OH-vitamin D level to at least 35ng/ml. According to WAPF, the risks vs. benefits of higher levels are uncertain ( http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/are-some-people-pushing-their-vitamin-d-levels-too-high.html ).

Here's a forum discussion of K2 supplementation on PaNu: http://www.paleonu.com/panu-forum/post/991929

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on October 17, 2010
at 12:36 AM

Calcium is also regulated by magnesium! ;-)

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204d33f5cb63828eb00c02cc2d9eccc0

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on February 05, 2012
at 07:15 PM

Some time ago, I changed my food habizs eating more raw salad, adding quite a lot of vinegar (2-3 large spoons). Meanwhile, I noticed my dents getting rather sensitive to cold and hot and colouring to yellow at their inner face. The fromt teeth are translucent at their ends and some of the teeth are light-brown yellowish at their outside base. I did some research on that issue and it appears it is the acid which decalcifies my teeth, making the enamel become more and more tranlucent as it gets decalcified. There seems to be a ionic balance, saliva can calcify the enamel again. So getting calcium supplements would make sense but drinking a glass of milk after each meal woiuld, too. Calcium supplements which dissolve in water should work even better if one swirls the solution before and after each meal around between teeth. I don't think tablets you swallow work so well as the ones you disolve in water as the body might not absorp excess calcium from the intestine

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on October 19, 2012
at 07:25 PM

The natural sweetener xylitol is shown to increase re-mineralization of teeth.

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Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on November 01, 2011
at 03:22 AM

My teeth started looking really translucent on Paleo, which completely freaked me out. Translucence, my dentist said, is completely natural, and progresses as we age. I know it's natural, but it seemed to happen way too fast and way too coincidentally with my diet changes. I'm pretty aware of my appearance, so it wasn't something I just didn't notice before going Paleo. Other people noticed it too -- my front teeth looked dark grey at the edges. Turns out it wasn't getting more translucent; a couple of other things were going on:

  • One, I stopped using a toothpaste with titanium dioxide in it. Titanium dioxide is what makes white paint white, and it's in toothpaste for the same reason. It gives you a little temporary whitewash; so when you smile in the mirror after brushing with white paint, your teeth look whiter and more opaque.

  • Second, the insides of my teeth started staining on this way of eating, which is nothing I'd ever experienced before. I still don't know why it's happening, but scrubbing the daylights out of the stains on the back made the front of my teeth look white again (a dentist's cleaning did the same thing recently). The stains were making the translucence appear darker than it actually was, so the fronts looked grey (weird!) instead of milky (normal).

As long as I keep an eye on the staining my teeth look nice and white, and the translucence is normal-looking, not grey (and if anyone knows why Paleo would cause tooth staining, I'm all ears). Check the back of your teeth with a mirror...I was shocked to see staining on my nice teeth!

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on November 01, 2011
at 03:24 AM

Also I was already taking calcium and magnesium when this happened, and am still taking mag, so it wasn't lack of minerals. The only other change was how often I cook in cast iron now (a LOT!) -- that may be related to the staining.

1e372dc8b47350de5ab8e27f477e0b18

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on March 25, 2014
at 02:07 PM

Same problem but my dentist thinks I grind my teeth. Looks like calcium and magnesium sups are the way to go (based on other answers).

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D3ff8dbcd44bb7d91d300db33a694f93

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on October 16, 2010
at 12:06 AM

I've had this for years, my dentist said it's not eroded enamel, some people just have this. I am betting it is related to the utter lack of pigment in my skin! Wondering if you, as I, are hyper-white-as-the-driven-snow, skin-wise.

D67e7b481854b02110d5a5b21d6789b1

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on October 16, 2010
at 04:49 PM

my dentist told me the same thing as Kati's, and I noticed my transparency in my teeth before I started eating paleo. I thought it was just a sign of age?

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on October 16, 2010
at 12:20 AM

I am relatively white, but not as the driven snow. I tan decently so I am only very white on those areas that do not see daylight.

7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

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on October 19, 2012
at 10:13 PM

Haha, my skin's more transparent than white, just like my teeth.

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21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on October 15, 2010
at 11:43 PM

Two things. First, I believe this may be called "incisal edge translucence", which I also have, have had for a long time, and is largely harmless.

Second, this may be a good example of the "nocebo" effect. Two months after starting paleo, nothing has changed except that you started paleo...AND you're two months older and noticing stuff you might not have noticed before going paleo!

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on October 16, 2010
at 01:13 AM

I think this is correct

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on October 16, 2010
at 01:02 AM

Spreading? Uh oh. Have you been to the dentist lately?

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on October 16, 2010
at 12:19 AM

It definitely was not there before going paleo. I keep an eye on my teeth. I saw it when it started and figured maybe it was no big deal and then I was dismayed as I watched the transparent part slowly spread..

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on May 27, 2014
at 03:47 PM

As encouraging as these reports are i'm not so sure on the supplementing calcium, I've heard bad things, i'd try increasing consumption of food sources of D, K2, Magnesium, Calcium, if no improvement then try supplementing those before touching any pill with calcium in it. If you notice your teeth remineralizing after supplementing calcium then great, it looks like the calcium is going to the right places, but if it isn't and you are calcifying other parts of your body like your arteries then that's not so good...

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on May 27, 2014
at 03:30 PM

Hi, thanks for bringing this up and for the answers! I am not on Paleo or any other diet, but have been searching for solutions to this same problem.

I will try what some of you did, calcium and magnesium - your results are giving me hope, awesome!

There are different opinions on what the proper calcium-magnesium ratio should be, I just found now this one from Dr. Mercola: "Research on the paleolithic or caveman diet has shown that the ratio of calcium to magnesium in the diet that our bodies evolved to eat is 1-to-1" http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/12/17/magnesium-benefits.aspx

And he also recommends adding K2 and D vits.

One thing I am trying to understand about Paleo and teeth is this: I have read at several places that oats for example, are very bad because of their I-don't-remember-what content that will make the teeth weak.

But what I am experiencing is this: whenever I eat my morning porridge, after only a few days my nails become beautifully strong. I quit oat - my nails weaken immediately, start breaking.

If I understand it right, bones, nails and hair are made of similar material, so how is it possible that the very same food would cause one of them to improve, another one of them to decay? What is this? Should I choose between healthy nails or healthy teeth???

I have been trying to get an answer to this perplexion of mine for a while in various forums, to no avail. Any of you might know?

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on May 27, 2014
at 03:27 PM

Hi, thanks for bringing this up and for the answers! I am not on Paleo or any other diet, but have been searching for solutions to this same problem.

I will try what some of you did, calcium and magnesium - your results are giving me hope, awesome!

There are different opinions on what the proper calcium-magnesium ratio should be, I just found now this one from Dr. Mercola: "Research on the paleolithic or caveman diet has shown that the ratio of calcium to magnesium in the diet that our bodies evolved to eat is 1-to-1" http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive...

And he also recommends adding K2 and D vits.

One thing I am trying to understand about Paleo and teeth is this: I have read at several places that oats for example, are very bad because of their I-don't-remember-what content that will make the teeth weak.

But what I am experiencing is this: whenever I eat my morning porridge, after only a few days my nails become beautifully strong. When I quit oat - my nails weaken immediately, start breaking.

If I understand it right, bones, nails and hair are made of similar material, so how is it possible that the very same food would cause one of them to improve, another one to decay? So what? Should I chose between healthy teeth or healthy nails???????

I have been trying to get an answer to this perplexion of mine for a while in various forums, to no avail. Any of you might know?

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on October 05, 2013
at 05:32 PM

Magnesium is the key to bone and teeth health. Calcium requires magnesium to make it into the bone. If you remove griains, and don't repleace the magnesium you were getting in them with something like wild rice or brown rice then you may not have the magnesium required to transfer your calcium into the bones and teeth. Here's some related information on Magnesium: http://www.mgwater.com/rod09.shtml

Please note, beware of using nuts or spinach to supplement magnesium. They are both very high in oxalic acid which impedes calcium absobtion in the gut and some believe is one of the culprits for leaky gut.

Best bet is to supplement Magnesium with D, B6 E, and K in the morning and take Calcium at night before bed. This way the mag and cal don't fight for cell receptor sites and you get the endorphin and upper from the mag and the calming of the calcium at the right time of day.

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on May 17, 2013
at 04:43 AM

I found this post after having been on the Paleo diet for 5-6 weeks and noticed my teeth had suddenly become transparent on the edges, particularly my lower teeth. I bought calcium supplements and after only 2-3 days of taking them my teeth are almost back to normal. (I was already taking magnesium). It's nice to know your body gives you these warning signs.

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on April 12, 2013
at 08:24 PM

can u list me all food countaines magnisum & cacium so i can fixe my teeth?

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on October 19, 2012
at 07:26 PM

I wonder if xylitol would help... it's been shown to remineralize teeth.

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on October 19, 2012
at 05:17 AM

Teeth problems are very common problem and the main reason behind teeth issue is to follow bad habit and take unhealthy food. For your problem I think you should take advice from a dentist and take proper advice.

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