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Is oat good for the nails but bad for teeth?

Commented on June 01, 2014
Created May 27, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Hi, a newby here. I am not even on Paleo (or any other) diet, but trying to find the right one for me.

One thing I am trying to understand about Paleo and teeth is this: I have read at several places that oats for example, are very bad because of their phytic acid content that will make the teeth weak. And I do have an issue with weak teeth.

But what I am experiencing is this: whenever I eat my morning porridge, after only a few days my nails become beautifully strong. When I quit oat - my nails weaken immediately, start breaking.

If I understand something right: bones, nails and hair are made of similar material, so how is it possible that the very same food would cause one of them to improve, another one to decay? So what? Should I chose between healthy teeth or healthy nails???????

I have been trying to get an answer to this perplexion of mine for a while in various forums, to no avail. Any of you might know? Thanks in advance.

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on June 01, 2014
at 11:17 PM

Thank you, now I understand it better. ! I have just started to learn about this subject, so a lot of things are unclear for me...

Yes, one thing is for sure: to avoid wheat. I am already observing some effects of it on myself.

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on June 01, 2014
at 10:26 PM

Point is, if it sets of celiacs who are sensitive to wheat, it may have some effects in non-celiacs as well, just wouldn't be visible. The work Dr. Fasano has done suggests that everyone should avoid wheat, not just celiacs, and of course, this is what paleo says - avoid grains. The thing with phytates is overblown, they're in nuts too. Phytic acid isn't available freeform in what you eat, it's already bound to minerals, it's not going to leach stuff from your body.

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on June 01, 2014
at 09:42 PM

Makes pretty much sense, thanks!

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on June 01, 2014
at 06:53 AM

Thanks for your reply!

As phytates being the problem here and not simply carbohydrates: http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/living-w...

And a lot of other articles write about this.

The link that you quote here, doesn't really apply to me, I guess, for I don't have coeliac disease and this is a study done on 19 CD patients.

"I've not heard anything about oats being good for bones." - Well, this is exactly my confusion and still my question: how come that oats are good for nails but not for bones or teeth?

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on June 01, 2014
at 03:06 PM

Why someone may have said this to you is that the phytic acid binds with minerals making your body unable to absorb them, so if for example you were eating this with milk and you needed calcium, oats might then hurt your cause then leading to weak bones. ( That's a pretty silly example IMO )

Alternatively the oats could be providing you some nutrient which you are missing which is helping your nails grow, I'm not sure I would put bones and nails in the same category, I would put ( Bones, Teeth ) and ( Nails, Hair Skin ) as groups.Granted my knowledge is very limited.

@Raydawg, I would be interested in hearing actual reasons why oats are bad. I currently eat oats as I don't agree with avoiding them simply because they are....are...grains.(GASP) :D

They are far more nutrient dense than rice and no more carbohydrate heavy and it's quite easy to find oats that were not manufactured in the same facility as other grains. The only thing I can think of is that they have other lectins?? Otherwise I can see no reason for avoiding oats.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12477758

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on June 01, 2014
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Makes pretty much sense, thanks!

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on May 28, 2014
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Oats are bad because they're grains - grains are not paleo. They may contribute to tooth decay because of their high carbohydrate content which bacteria in the mouth eat and then release acid, not because of phytate content.

I've not heard anything about oats being good for bones.

If your nails are weak, you're missing some mineral or nutrient. Things like iron, magnesium, zinc, copper, manganese, or B vitamins. Try some shellfish, liver, egg yolks instead which will provide those nutrients. Or at minimum prepare them in the traditional way by soaking and fermenting them.

Like any other grain, there are several problems with oats. They're usually processed on the same equipment as wheat, contaminating them with gluten. Additionally, they're inherently cross reactive with gluten to celiacs and non-celiacs that are sensitive to wheat - the avenin in them is the gluten analogue and people do react to them.

They're certainly not as bad as wheat or rye, but worse than say, white rice. Granted, they may be tasty, and in your case, make stronger nails, but like all grains, they can cause intestinal permeability:

http://gut.bmj.com/content/52/11/1649.abstract

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at 06:53 AM

Thanks for your reply!

As phytates being the problem here and not simply carbohydrates: http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/living-w...

And a lot of other articles write about this.

The link that you quote here, doesn't really apply to me, I guess, for I don't have coeliac disease and this is a study done on 19 CD patients.

"I've not heard anything about oats being good for bones." - Well, this is exactly my confusion and still my question: how come that oats are good for nails but not for bones or teeth?

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