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Excessive Tooth Plaque & Poor Sleep

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 02, 2011 at 9:27 PM

I???m not sure what???s going on, but each of the last 3 mornings I woke with excessive plaque buildup on the inside of my bottom front teeth.

During these same 3 nights I slept well from ~10p to ~2am, woke & tossed for a couple of hours, and then slept well until ~6am. I???m thinking this is somehow related to the tooth plaque buildup because for ~5 days or so before I slept extremely well (i.e., noticeably better than normal) with no excessive tooth plaque.

The excessive tooth plaque issue has happened to me a few times in the past; I can???t recall if it also coincided with restless sleep, but after a few days the excessive plaque disappears as quickly and mysteriously as it appeared.

For diet, I have been zero-carb (total carnivore) for the last 3 weeks with minimal day-to-day change.

Any theories or ideas would be appreciated!!

Bd271299b2d4d9b2e3da9c252fef058c

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on February 24, 2011
at 10:58 PM

*UPDATE* About a week before going to the dentist I got a new toothbrush- one with zig-zaggy bristles- to replace my old one- with flat bristles. The build-up went away almost instantly! At my appointment I asked about it, explaining my diet etc, and he said he wasn't sure what the cause could be but isn't concerned because I have so little plaque. So I still don't know what caused it, but a fancier toothbrush seems to cure the symptoms!

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

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on February 04, 2011
at 03:44 AM

I've been using tooth soap as well, it's great. Try here. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330513747728&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

D38c0cc994b194de08289e0fe3f99d1e

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on February 03, 2011
at 03:30 PM

No sinus issues; I can't believe the answer is that simple (I just started sleeping with my mouth open all of the sudden?).

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on February 03, 2011
at 06:39 AM

Do you use toothepaste? Have you tried using baking soda instead to brush teeth? My teeth have never been better since I started using baking soda. I can tell it's better just by the way my tongue "feels" on my teeth haha.

D38c0cc994b194de08289e0fe3f99d1e

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on February 03, 2011
at 02:46 AM

Great... thanks.

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on February 03, 2011
at 02:30 AM

I thought it was higher carbs in general (of which s. potatoes and pumpkin were the biggest portion, but I increased also other veggies) that made me feel better. Apart from plaque clearup, I solved problems with dry mouth (related?), felt more satisfied after a meal, and more energetic throughout the day.

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on February 03, 2011
at 02:02 AM

That's interesting...I still get it with standard potatoes. I suppose that there is an interaction between the fat soluble vitamins, A being chiefly the one present in sweet potatoes and pumpkin. I do get no small dose of vitamin A from 2 cups of spinach daily.

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on February 02, 2011
at 10:51 PM

That's interesting...I bet that's why it happens to me.

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on February 02, 2011
at 09:38 PM

Figured you would have mentioned it if so, but it was worth a shot. Good luck!

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on February 02, 2011
at 09:35 PM

No booze for sure; in fact, I've been zero-carb total carnivore the last ~3 weeks, and my diet has not really changed much day to day.

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on February 02, 2011
at 09:53 PM

Sleeping with your mouth open can cause this. Are you having any sinus issues?

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(39821)

on February 02, 2011
at 10:51 PM

That's interesting...I bet that's why it happens to me.

D38c0cc994b194de08289e0fe3f99d1e

(421)

on February 03, 2011
at 03:30 PM

No sinus issues; I can't believe the answer is that simple (I just started sleeping with my mouth open all of the sudden?).

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5672b2d190891342389e764cc4056ca9

(1304)

on February 03, 2011
at 01:41 AM

I had the same (dental) problem on low carb. I've reintroduced daily sweet potatoes and pumpkin and it's gone. Give it a try.

Medium avatar

(39821)

on February 03, 2011
at 02:02 AM

That's interesting...I still get it with standard potatoes. I suppose that there is an interaction between the fat soluble vitamins, A being chiefly the one present in sweet potatoes and pumpkin. I do get no small dose of vitamin A from 2 cups of spinach daily.

5672b2d190891342389e764cc4056ca9

(1304)

on February 03, 2011
at 02:30 AM

I thought it was higher carbs in general (of which s. potatoes and pumpkin were the biggest portion, but I increased also other veggies) that made me feel better. Apart from plaque clearup, I solved problems with dry mouth (related?), felt more satisfied after a meal, and more energetic throughout the day.

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0018c1666d63b9b9bd4f2c5a462e09cd

on February 23, 2013
at 09:50 PM

I havent been able to sleep for aboit 2 weeks and I have excessive plaque which is why I am here as I was trying to find answers. So seems like the lack of sleep is what we have in common.

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D0820b15495d6555cb1474b1e1713510

on December 12, 2012
at 03:38 AM

I think this is carbohydrate intake related. I had this buildup on my teeth and the waking up occur twice. First when I started paleo eating and wasn't eating any sweet potatoes and now again when I am temporarily (I hope) off the sweet potatoes. I wonder what the connection is.

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on July 12, 2011
at 01:20 AM

You're snoring, and the saliva is evaporating on the back of your teeth leaving behind the minerals as you exhale. (Or at least that's what my dentist told me when I asked about this phenomenon).

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on February 03, 2011
at 12:16 PM

I just started using "Tooth Soap" - it's soap, for your teeth. Sounds odd but it's made out of food and my teeth feel pretty good. Might be worth a pop if you want to do some self experimentation.

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

(1781)

on February 04, 2011
at 03:44 AM

I've been using tooth soap as well, it's great. Try here. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330513747728&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

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on February 03, 2011
at 12:51 AM

My gut feeling is that this is the result of increased K2 in our saliva as a result of our dietary changes. This started happening to me around when I amped up my pasture butter intake. These days, I eat ungodly amounts of butter and natto every day and this happens more often.

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Bd271299b2d4d9b2e3da9c252fef058c

on February 03, 2011
at 12:41 AM

I get the same thing! Super built-up plaque behind my bottom two front teeth. And it only started happening when I stopped eating all sugars, including fruits. I thought I noticed it coinciding with my fish intake. I sleep well and without sinus blockage. I'm going to the dentist in two weeks and will ask about it (although who knows what they'll say). I'll report back.

D38c0cc994b194de08289e0fe3f99d1e

(421)

on February 03, 2011
at 02:46 AM

Great... thanks.

Bd271299b2d4d9b2e3da9c252fef058c

(2854)

on February 24, 2011
at 10:58 PM

*UPDATE* About a week before going to the dentist I got a new toothbrush- one with zig-zaggy bristles- to replace my old one- with flat bristles. The build-up went away almost instantly! At my appointment I asked about it, explaining my diet etc, and he said he wasn't sure what the cause could be but isn't concerned because I have so little plaque. So I still don't know what caused it, but a fancier toothbrush seems to cure the symptoms!

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1f96ce108240f19345c05704c7709dad

(1061)

on February 02, 2011
at 10:54 PM

I sometimes use "Breathe Right" things across the bridge of my nose at night - they keep my nose open, and stop me from breathing through my mouth. I do have some allergies that can close my nose, the BR's work quite well.

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Bee1be034ef8da3e1e5cf9587b8bb690

on February 02, 2011
at 10:48 PM

I'm one of those people who have plaque-building saliva. I seem to have lots of saliva (dentist visits are fun). According to my dentist I'm just one of those folks who have more build up.

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87c70cb6d22de2a71fd39a7bb4a63a2b

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on February 02, 2011
at 10:13 PM

My dentist told me that some folks just have the body chemistry for more mineral buildup from their saliva. She's pretty holistically in-tune and said it's nothing to worry about. Kind of like how some folks have greasier hair than others.

She did also mention the mouth breathing. I find that I breathe more easily when I'm strict Paleo (sinuses) and I can make a conscious effort to breathe deeply through my nose as I fall asleep.

I'm sure Paul Chek could answer your question :)

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721c2ae7c48630f3c7578a62773b8276

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on February 02, 2011
at 09:48 PM

Are you... Brushing your teeth? Drinking enough water? Try tracking it for a few weeks to see if it's not a coincidence.

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1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

on February 02, 2011
at 09:30 PM

My teeth always feel fuzzy after a night of hard drinking, which also coincides with restlessness at night. Have you been boozin' it up, perchance?

D38c0cc994b194de08289e0fe3f99d1e

(421)

on February 02, 2011
at 09:35 PM

No booze for sure; in fact, I've been zero-carb total carnivore the last ~3 weeks, and my diet has not really changed much day to day.

1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

(6550)

on February 02, 2011
at 09:38 PM

Figured you would have mentioned it if so, but it was worth a shot. Good luck!

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