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Could poor maternal or childhood nutrition be to blame for near or total lack of enamel on baby or adult teeth?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 28, 2011 at 1:44 AM

I was born without enamel on four of my baby teeth - thus, I had silver crowns placed on these teeth until my adult ones pushed them out. (That was around the same time I decided to cut my own hair...which left me having a ridiculous haircut and silver-capped teeth. Suffered from FLK* syndrome.)

As an adult, I've had quite a few cavities - at least 10, probably more. Sometimes I wonder if my teeth were especially cavity prone from the get-go (and I'm sure my SAD diet over the years only exacerbated things).

Now I'm wondering - though I haven't done a lot of in-depth reading on dental health, so maybe those more familiar with WAPF can help me here:

Can poor nutrition result in teeth having poor/no enamel? If so, is the mechanism by which this happens known?

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

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on July 16, 2011
at 05:22 PM

There's no risk to sticking around the middle of the reference range and probably much benefit. While I was keeping mine at 65 ng/mL, I'm now targeting 50-55 ng/mL due to some of the issues that appear to show up with greater frequency at higher levels (pancreatic cancer being one, iirc). As with most things, more is not better. We want appropriate and 'optimal' amounts - and that amount is not yet fully understood.

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

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on July 16, 2011
at 05:21 PM

70-100 ng does not apppear to be reasonably achievable by sun except in some rare instances (very pale person at very low latitude) indicating that it's not especially biologically appropriate. Given the new information regarding Apo e4 and it's effects on 25(OH)D and 1,25(OH)D 70-100 ng/mL sounds like not the best idea for most people.

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

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on July 16, 2011
at 05:17 PM

calcium too - though since most get enough calcium, it's generally an issue of getting the calcium to the right spots - that job goes to D and K

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

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on July 16, 2011
at 04:55 PM

Yes, insufficient, D, K, magnesium could all contribute.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on May 28, 2011
at 08:40 AM

10K daily put me @ 60 ng/ml in a few months.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on May 28, 2011
at 04:28 AM

Laura Two things. Powdered form is not absorbed easily. Gel caps are better. The Now brand 5000IU uses olive oil as the carrier..not soybean oil. And increase your dosage to 10000 IU a day for three months then recheck

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 28, 2011
at 02:56 AM

How is that number achievable? I take 5000iu D3 with K daily, don't wear sunscreen and now follow paleo. I'm only at 46ng/ml after 2 years of working on this. (started at 23ng/ml) What else should one do?

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on May 28, 2011
at 02:47 AM

Vit D puts calcium in the blood, not the bones!!!

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on May 28, 2011
at 02:38 AM

The mechanism has to be that D3 assists movement of Calcium into the bones and I would presume the teeth also.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on May 28, 2011
at 02:36 AM

There is this quote "Moms who were deficient in vitamin D while pregnant had children who had significantly more tooth problems, such as weak tooth enamel and tooth decay." http://blogs.babiesonline.com/pregnancy/vitamin-d-while-pregnant-gives-baby-healthier-teeth/ It makes sense...low Mom D3 results in dental problems in offspring... just as low D3 in adults results in dental problems. Have you checked you D3 level recently?

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on May 28, 2011
at 02:29 AM

I know about malocclusion, but does insufficient D3 in the mother result in lack of enamel in her developing unborn child's teeth?

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3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on May 28, 2011
at 06:56 PM

familygrokumentarian,

Definitely I think maternal health imprints on not only baby but also grandchildren's health. My 2nd child has the most SAD damage -- which became obvious after 13 cavities and fillings later! Her cavities however stopped 18mos after paleo, improving gut health (glutamine, probiotics and digestive enzymes), vitamins K2, D3, A and going 90% grain-free and gluten/casein free. She doesn't have a narrow palate as Weston A. Price studied in progressively affected generations after the introduction of grains to ancestral/aboriginal cultures, however she has the pro-cavity type of mouth and gut flora... (kinda like me but 10x worse).

It's hard work but infinitely worth it knowing hopefully the epigenetic improvements will be long-lived...

-G

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06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on May 28, 2011
at 02:10 AM

Actually a mother not having sufficient Vit D3 during pregnancy and then during nursing an and does result in less than stellar mouth formation and dental problems. Sadly this has been known since 1927 as discovered by Dr and Mrs Mellanby who also discovered that Vit D3 low levels results in ricketts. Thus Vit D is added to milk but in very low doses.

Many paleos know to supplement with Vit D3. I take 5000IU a day and have for almost 3 years. Great for the immune system and also prevents dental caries and it is a good mood enhancer.

The Quilt here wants his patients to be at serum Vit D3 of 70 to 100ng/ml Most people are in the 20s.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on May 28, 2011
at 08:40 AM

10K daily put me @ 60 ng/ml in a few months.

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on May 28, 2011
at 02:29 AM

I know about malocclusion, but does insufficient D3 in the mother result in lack of enamel in her developing unborn child's teeth?

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on May 28, 2011
at 04:28 AM

Laura Two things. Powdered form is not absorbed easily. Gel caps are better. The Now brand 5000IU uses olive oil as the carrier..not soybean oil. And increase your dosage to 10000 IU a day for three months then recheck

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on May 28, 2011
at 02:47 AM

Vit D puts calcium in the blood, not the bones!!!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 28, 2011
at 02:56 AM

How is that number achievable? I take 5000iu D3 with K daily, don't wear sunscreen and now follow paleo. I'm only at 46ng/ml after 2 years of working on this. (started at 23ng/ml) What else should one do?

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on May 28, 2011
at 02:36 AM

There is this quote "Moms who were deficient in vitamin D while pregnant had children who had significantly more tooth problems, such as weak tooth enamel and tooth decay." http://blogs.babiesonline.com/pregnancy/vitamin-d-while-pregnant-gives-baby-healthier-teeth/ It makes sense...low Mom D3 results in dental problems in offspring... just as low D3 in adults results in dental problems. Have you checked you D3 level recently?

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on May 28, 2011
at 02:38 AM

The mechanism has to be that D3 assists movement of Calcium into the bones and I would presume the teeth also.

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

(4764)

on July 16, 2011
at 05:21 PM

70-100 ng does not apppear to be reasonably achievable by sun except in some rare instances (very pale person at very low latitude) indicating that it's not especially biologically appropriate. Given the new information regarding Apo e4 and it's effects on 25(OH)D and 1,25(OH)D 70-100 ng/mL sounds like not the best idea for most people.

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

(4764)

on July 16, 2011
at 05:22 PM

There's no risk to sticking around the middle of the reference range and probably much benefit. While I was keeping mine at 65 ng/mL, I'm now targeting 50-55 ng/mL due to some of the issues that appear to show up with greater frequency at higher levels (pancreatic cancer being one, iirc). As with most things, more is not better. We want appropriate and 'optimal' amounts - and that amount is not yet fully understood.

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