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Lost an appendix? What has changed since then?

Answered on September 19, 2015
Created October 27, 2013 at 4:21 PM

I know it's hard to pinpoint. Coming home from the hospital all you can think about is recovery. By the time you're "recovered" how do you know what part of your health is still "recovering" and what is permanent?

I'm just looking for correlations or trends. If you've had your appendix out, what general health issues have you noticed? Especially anything you can say for sure started after the surgery, but even if you aren't sure because it could still add to the trends/correlation.

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on November 11, 2013
at 11:57 PM

This is really informative. Had you posted this link in an answer form I may have chosen it as best answer. It's great because not only does it clarify what I'm missing out on but the fact that the function may be somewhat less important in humans. I'm sure it still sucks, but I'll just keep pounding the probiotics and hope for the best for now. WOrking so far.

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on November 05, 2013
at 06:50 AM

There's only one way to find out. Anything is possible and any problem can be solved with dedication.

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on November 04, 2013
at 05:49 PM

One good source is gutsense.org and while the guy may be a little kookoo he does know a lot about poopoo. I've tried loads of greens and will probably try again but a few times I think I got badly blocked up from them.

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on November 04, 2013
at 05:47 PM

I read a lot that reduced fiber and improved flora can be the best answer. The stool is almost all water, dry weight in most healthy individuals being mostly bacterial material. You're doing is basically replacing bacteria with cellulose as per CW. I've been having plenty voluminous movements 1-2 times a day with good consistency eating 15-30 grams of fiber. Thinking about reducing it further since the fiber seems to upset my gut - especially greens.

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on November 04, 2013
at 05:40 PM

I could only get so far with the translation before I got fed up... I wonder if there's a truly English source parroting his opinions?

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on November 04, 2013
at 05:26 PM

The thought has crossed my mind but I fear that without an appendix, the benefits may be transient. I'll look for that thread. I only read breifly about it on the PHD website.

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on November 04, 2013
at 09:35 AM

And if you're feeling hardcore - apparently you can do DIY fecal transplants. There was a thread on PH before with links to some resources on the matter.

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on November 04, 2013
at 09:34 AM

I don't really have any problems with constipation anymore and my shit is always pretty smooth. I eat a crap load of FODMAP friendly greens with each meal; so much that I was thinking about reducing the intake to see if it further improves my gut and acne.

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on November 04, 2013
at 09:31 AM

I am going to start introducing some water kefir and sauerkraut soon, and possibly some coconut milk kefir as well. I used to have heaps of water kefir and sauerkraut when I was on a normal paleo diet but I think just eating the wrong thing can undo the work of the probiotics pretty quickly.

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on November 04, 2013
at 09:30 AM

I've just been doing a low FODMAPs diet. It has helped me with gut issues more than anything else. It's now pretty rare that my stomach makes noises or that I fart - something that used to happen all the time before. I suggest that you try it because it will give your gut an opportunity to heal. Currently I am not taking any probiotics and my gut has been pretty awesome, as long as I don't go crazy with combining food.

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on November 04, 2013
at 01:00 AM

That whole bad period started shortly after a course of antibiotics prescribed by the dentist

Three other silver bullets:

WALKING and stretching seem to be the only exercises that matter to my bowels.

FOOD COMBINING is magical. Indigestion is almost non-existent after a meal focused on a single macronutrient with perhaps some greens.

IMMEDIATELY heading for the toilet at the first sign of urge. Any hesitation might lead to a missed opportunity and blockage.

It's okay to be that graphic here on paleohacks right?

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on November 04, 2013
at 12:56 AM

I'm leaning towards the gut flora theory. My bowels have been acting up like mad, especially after a few courses of antibiotics (can't recover without a motherculture in the appendix).

What are some of the solutions you've been coming up with? I've had good bowel habits for a few prolonged periods. After recently becoming terribly constipated for a week, I came out of it and went immediately onto a moderate-to-low fiber, HIGH fermented/probiotic/prebiotic foods diet and have been doing excellent for over a week.

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on October 31, 2013
at 03:30 AM

I read a good article on this.

http://politicalblindspot.org/scientists-finally-discover-the-function-of-the-human-appendix/

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on October 31, 2013
at 02:51 AM

I've read 'round Paleo Hacks that it has something to do with harboring a sort of mother culture of your gut bacteria - which I suppose is a bit like an immune function considering what an important role the bugs play in our immune system.

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on October 28, 2013
at 03:05 AM

+1 for dental work without anesthesia. I've done that a few times just because I hate the numb. Sometimes they refuse...

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on September 19, 2015
at 04:07 AM

I had my appendix removed almost 1 year ago. I am not sure how much my current gastrointestinal issues are related to the removal itself or the antibiotics I was on after the surgery. I had a course of Cipro followed by Levaquin. That stuff almost killed me. I have never been in so much pain in my life. It was excruciating.

Since the surgery I have had trouble with GERD and severe gas. I get panic attacks from the bloating. I can go from a basically flat stomach to looking like I am six months pregnant in just a matter of minutes. I never had problems like this before the surgery. I am desperate to find something to get my digestive system back on track.

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on November 04, 2013
at 10:43 AM

There is a french surgeon, Georges Pourtalet, who says most people he sees suffer from chonic appendicitis (40 years of practice of surgery, the guy knows what he's talking about)

He advises to remove the appendix as a first step to heal from a leaky gut

I don't think his book does exist in an english version but here's some notes (originally in french, this is an automatic google trad) :

http://translate.google.be/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.onnouscachetout.com/forum/topic/12221-le-corps-a-ses-raisons-que-la-medecine-ignore/

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on November 04, 2013
at 05:40 PM

I could only get so far with the translation before I got fed up... I wonder if there's a truly English source parroting his opinions?

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on November 02, 2013
at 03:20 PM

As a kid I was constantly constipated. My stools would be hard and solid and I would go to the toilet once every 3 days. My appendix got inflamed and had to be taken out. After its removal my constipation got worse and my stool changed completely. As an adult I have some problems with acne and also some IBS type reactions to certain foods. It's worth adding that as a kid I used to eat a lot of lollies and similar synthetic crap which I believe led to all the problems in the first place.

I'm working through this slowly and am coming up with solutions.

My theory is that the appendix got jammed because of constipation and that having it out may have upset my gut flora in some way, causing me other issues.

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on November 04, 2013
at 01:00 AM

That whole bad period started shortly after a course of antibiotics prescribed by the dentist

Three other silver bullets:

WALKING and stretching seem to be the only exercises that matter to my bowels.

FOOD COMBINING is magical. Indigestion is almost non-existent after a meal focused on a single macronutrient with perhaps some greens.

IMMEDIATELY heading for the toilet at the first sign of urge. Any hesitation might lead to a missed opportunity and blockage.

It's okay to be that graphic here on paleohacks right?

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(624)

on November 04, 2013
at 12:56 AM

I'm leaning towards the gut flora theory. My bowels have been acting up like mad, especially after a few courses of antibiotics (can't recover without a motherculture in the appendix).

What are some of the solutions you've been coming up with? I've had good bowel habits for a few prolonged periods. After recently becoming terribly constipated for a week, I came out of it and went immediately onto a moderate-to-low fiber, HIGH fermented/probiotic/prebiotic foods diet and have been doing excellent for over a week.

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on October 31, 2013
at 09:47 PM

I guess this really isn't going to work. I guess only a percent of a percent of people have this. I honestly thought I wasn't that special...

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=appendicitis

Dang. This sucks man. I mean... well it's good for the rest of you.

Then again over 2% of americans suffer from diabetes so maybe I'm the lucky one?

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=diabetes

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on October 31, 2013
at 03:15 AM

I have been wanting to get my appendix out for the past few months. it's been giving me nothing but problems. I think i'd feel better without it.

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on October 31, 2013
at 03:30 AM

I read a good article on this.

http://politicalblindspot.org/scientists-finally-discover-the-function-of-the-human-appendix/

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on October 28, 2013
at 06:52 AM

I cannot answer your direct question, being that my appendix remains on the inside of my body and I have had no experience in dealing with its absence. What I have heard is that it used to be thought of as "vestigial" (something that has lost its usefulness). However a different theory, developed out of various studies, has been gaining ground in the past decade or so that suggests (not proves) that the appendix plays a role within the body's immune system.

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on October 31, 2013
at 02:51 AM

I've read 'round Paleo Hacks that it has something to do with harboring a sort of mother culture of your gut bacteria - which I suppose is a bit like an immune function considering what an important role the bugs play in our immune system.

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on October 27, 2013
at 04:48 PM

Still have my appendix, but I have had issues from the painkillers and drugs used by doctors and dentists. Novocain an related types of drugs cause my immune system to react in an unfriendly manner, usually lymph related issues. Therefor when I've had dental work done I go without pain killers - dentists are truly nervous about this option and think I'm nuts. As for surgery, had sinus work done and had no choice, but did opt for a stand by vs. traditional putting me under.

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on October 28, 2013
at 03:05 AM

+1 for dental work without anesthesia. I've done that a few times just because I hate the numb. Sometimes they refuse...

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