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Whole9 Fish Oil Calculator....87 fish oils per day?!?!?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 16, 2011 at 3:17 PM

http://whole9life.com/fish-oil/

Has anyone ever used this thing? I weight 260lbs Used a factor of 1 because I think I'm pretty banged up... 1 serving (2 capsules) gives you 370 EPA and 230 DHA

The calulator told me I need 87 fish oils per day...I feel like I'm doing something wrong...or I underestimate how much fish oil people are supplementing...

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on March 17, 2011
at 02:11 PM

What should I cut? My understanding is that because most chicken and beef isn't fed properly....everything we eat will have omega 6 /omega 3 imabalances..

Af2ad65226384cedd4f5f08825a75b5d

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on March 17, 2011
at 12:13 AM

As far as I can tell unfermented seems to be as safe as fermented. CLO is some really great stuff either way.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 16, 2011
at 09:07 PM

My CLO is unfermented, what is the difference? Is it safe compared to fermented? I keep it in the fridge. Here is the CLO oil i use: http://www.twinlab.com/product/norwegian-cod-liver-oil Unflavored.

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on March 16, 2011
at 07:48 PM

*burp, burp, burp*

Af2ad65226384cedd4f5f08825a75b5d

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on March 16, 2011
at 07:39 PM

Cod liver oil is different from a "generic" fish oil. Cod Liver oil as you said is super high in vitamin A, high in Vitamin D, has some omega 3s, but not so many that most would view it as a source to be consumed of ad libitum (given the potential for vitamin A toxicity, which you are obviously aware of). Cod Liver oil also has been consumed for a much longer period than the molecularly distilled fish oil. But the question and your answer referred to general fish oil. Cod liver oil (especially traditionally fermented CLO) should be beneficial in most situations.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 16, 2011
at 07:20 PM

Does cod liver oil contain Vitamin E? I know it contains lots of vitamin A hence why I don't eat much vitamin A containing foods as I supplement it.

Af2ad65226384cedd4f5f08825a75b5d

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on March 16, 2011
at 07:01 PM

If you're going to take fish oil, its clear that liquid is superior to the pill.

Af2ad65226384cedd4f5f08825a75b5d

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on March 16, 2011
at 06:58 PM

There is a difference from liquid fish oil that is refrigerated and pills that people just leave out to go rancid.

Af2ad65226384cedd4f5f08825a75b5d

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on March 16, 2011
at 06:57 PM

Not voting down even though you just present logical fallacies of Ad hominem attack on Kurt Haris and Straw man attack on my response to the question with out answering the question. If you actually analyze what I stated, it says I am against excessive fish oil consumption in general and pull from some of those who are strongly against supplementation. Its important to note that isolated fish oil will oxidize hence the presence of Vitamin E in most fish oil pills and liquid. (The vitamin E reduces but does not completely stop oxidation).

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on March 16, 2011
at 05:20 PM

I use Biotest "Flameout".

3ccab807e2b8bb1d050c3584d9c1dd12

(487)

on March 16, 2011
at 04:54 PM

What do you use?

3ccab807e2b8bb1d050c3584d9c1dd12

(487)

on March 16, 2011
at 04:54 PM

I'm using barleans signature fish oil

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Af2ad65226384cedd4f5f08825a75b5d

(665)

on March 16, 2011
at 03:37 PM

In general, I'm against excessive fish oil consumption (and 87 pills is way too excessive).

I wish I remembered the blog, which discussed a clinical study where doses as small (large really) as 3 grams of fish oil were correlated with higher total mortality and cell mutations than smaller doses like 1.0 gram. I thinks it is important to remember that isolated compounds (especially ones that can easily go rancid like fish oil) are not cure alls or even necessarily as effective as the compound when found in food.

A great post about fish oil vs. fish itself is over at the Perfect Health Diet blog where they say this,

In fact, clinical trials have compared eating fish to eating fish oil capsules. Fish consumption has an excellent record in a number of clinical trials, but fish oil capsule supplements do not.

In the Diet and Angina Randomized Trial (DART-2), 3114 men with stable angina were followed for 3-9 years. There was a control group, a group advised to eat oily fish like salmon, and a group taking 3 fish oil capsules daily. There was a significant increase in sudden cardiac death among the subgroup taking fish oil capsules.

In addition such other paleo-luminaries are relatively anti-fish oil consumption such as Kurt Harris over at paleonu.com.

I know this answer may seem biased, but I am assuming that the OP has read and hear the arguments in favor for Fish Oil by Robb Wolf and the Whole 9 (obviously) and others.

I do not supplement fish oil as I prefer to avoid supplemental "drugs" and instead focus on limited all PUFA consumption and work on ratios within this by eating fatty fish.

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on March 16, 2011
at 06:48 PM

I would definitely stop taking the pills and buy the liquid - I like Barlean's Fresh Catch and Carlson's lemon or orange flavored fish oil is nice as well. The EPA/DHA is a LOT higher in the liquid form than it is in the pill form.

http://www.amazon.com/Barleans-Organic-Oils-8-Ounce-Bottle/dp/B002VLZ89Y

http://www.amazon.com/Carlson-Finest-Liquid-Omega-3-Lemon/dp/B001LF39RO/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1300301294&sr=1-1

Af2ad65226384cedd4f5f08825a75b5d

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on March 16, 2011
at 07:01 PM

If you're going to take fish oil, its clear that liquid is superior to the pill.

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on March 16, 2011
at 09:25 PM

87 is nothing. That calculator had me taking 122/day for like my first six weeks on paleo. . . . .

JUST KIDDING!

That's WAY excessive. Just go hardcore on cutting your O/6 intake right now.

3ccab807e2b8bb1d050c3584d9c1dd12

(487)

on March 17, 2011
at 02:11 PM

What should I cut? My understanding is that because most chicken and beef isn't fed properly....everything we eat will have omega 6 /omega 3 imabalances..

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 16, 2011
at 05:50 PM

Fish oil isn't a drug, it's just the oil of fish in a pill....

The best fish oil is the kind that comes in a bottle with no additives. I don't see what's wrong with taking a teaspoon or 2 with a meal.

You guys think you're getting enough omega 3 by eating grass fed meats? Doesn't it contain not much anyway, and doesn't have lots of DHA like fish oil.

Better supplement if you want the brain food, eating fish once a week isn't enough.

Fish oil = brain food. It can even help with the brain fog and depression/fussyness that dairy causes.

I personally notice a great improvement by supplementing fish oil, mentally I am sharper, have more focus and are able to think clearer. Physically there is less inflammation, also helps the mood, not just cognition.

*edited for "attack" lol

Af2ad65226384cedd4f5f08825a75b5d

(665)

on March 16, 2011
at 06:57 PM

Not voting down even though you just present logical fallacies of Ad hominem attack on Kurt Haris and Straw man attack on my response to the question with out answering the question. If you actually analyze what I stated, it says I am against excessive fish oil consumption in general and pull from some of those who are strongly against supplementation. Its important to note that isolated fish oil will oxidize hence the presence of Vitamin E in most fish oil pills and liquid. (The vitamin E reduces but does not completely stop oxidation).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 16, 2011
at 07:20 PM

Does cod liver oil contain Vitamin E? I know it contains lots of vitamin A hence why I don't eat much vitamin A containing foods as I supplement it.

Af2ad65226384cedd4f5f08825a75b5d

(665)

on March 16, 2011
at 07:39 PM

Cod liver oil is different from a "generic" fish oil. Cod Liver oil as you said is super high in vitamin A, high in Vitamin D, has some omega 3s, but not so many that most would view it as a source to be consumed of ad libitum (given the potential for vitamin A toxicity, which you are obviously aware of). Cod Liver oil also has been consumed for a much longer period than the molecularly distilled fish oil. But the question and your answer referred to general fish oil. Cod liver oil (especially traditionally fermented CLO) should be beneficial in most situations.

Af2ad65226384cedd4f5f08825a75b5d

(665)

on March 16, 2011
at 06:58 PM

There is a difference from liquid fish oil that is refrigerated and pills that people just leave out to go rancid.

Af2ad65226384cedd4f5f08825a75b5d

(665)

on March 17, 2011
at 12:13 AM

As far as I can tell unfermented seems to be as safe as fermented. CLO is some really great stuff either way.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 16, 2011
at 09:07 PM

My CLO is unfermented, what is the difference? Is it safe compared to fermented? I keep it in the fridge. Here is the CLO oil i use: http://www.twinlab.com/product/norwegian-cod-liver-oil Unflavored.

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on March 16, 2011
at 05:29 PM

I draw the line when fish oil (or any supplement) becomes its own line item on my budget.

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Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

(565)

on March 16, 2011
at 04:44 PM

It depends on the type of fish oil you're buying. All are definitely not created equal. I only take 4 per day, which is also what the fish oil calculator suggested.

3ccab807e2b8bb1d050c3584d9c1dd12

(487)

on March 16, 2011
at 04:54 PM

What do you use?

Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

(565)

on March 16, 2011
at 05:20 PM

I use Biotest "Flameout".

3ccab807e2b8bb1d050c3584d9c1dd12

(487)

on March 16, 2011
at 04:54 PM

I'm using barleans signature fish oil

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