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What essential vitamins and nutrients am I missing out on while following a VLC Primal-Lifestyle?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created February 14, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Weight loss is my primary objective, for the time being, so I'm consuming little to no carbohydrate in my diet. Also, I can't afford to shop for higher quality meats and vegetables regularly. I'm usually limited to what I can find at a regular grocery store.

Here's what I consume on a regular basis:

Bacon or Sausage (from Whole Foods, no added nitrates, preservatives, etc.)

Omega-3 Eggs (Land O'Lakes)

Cheddar Cheese, Unsalted Butter, Greek-style Yogurt (no rBST)

Beef, Pork, and Chicken (from a regular grocery store)

Olive or Canola Oil

And a variety of seafood including shrimp and white fishes.

The only supplement I'm taking is a Vit. D-3 supplement 800 (x2/day) from GNC. I understand that a true Primal/Paleo diet would include a variety of fruits, vegetables, and nuts but for the time being this is what I've limited myself to. What additional vitamins should I purchase that are ESSENTIAL - Vit. C, Fish Oils, etc.?

Stats: 28 y/o male, 6'0" tall, 357 LBS, power-lifter, good health overall.

Thank you in advance!

58a55f0986b8f49a8bc5666e10492569

on March 04, 2010
at 07:26 AM

People are independent thinkers here. You needn't worry that people are going to blindly take my or anyone else's advice. Everybody knows that they have to do their own research and make up their own minds... Yes, you have to take IP6 first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, so that it won't bind to the minerals you want. BTW, Bill Sardi has a new book out - downsizingyourbody.com - blaming iron overload for obesity and other problems, and recommending IP6. He thinks too much iron causes carb cravings and insulin resistance just like fructose. He typically provides lots of research.

Eae21abfabb19c4617b2630386994fd9

on March 02, 2010
at 07:08 AM

I second the iodine- maybe best to obtain by seafood or seaweed. I would much rather bleed out then have IP-6 (phytic acid) chelating all my valuable minerals. I think you should look into this supplement more before advising others to take it. Stefansson was not eating raw meat in his observed all meat diet. For vitamin C he stated that "fresh meat" was needed as opposed to canned or salt preserved meat that sailors take on voyages.

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on February 18, 2010
at 04:30 AM

And only use the olive oil "raw" - ie without heating it. Butter and coconut oil are great for cooking!

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(2041)

on February 14, 2010
at 08:28 PM

Canola? Really?

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2163280ace0d40b8dc64947afcbfcb15

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on February 14, 2010
at 05:25 PM

You might consider omitting the canola oil. It's just another industrial food.

Coconut oil is waaay better in many ways. Google it.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on February 18, 2010
at 04:30 AM

And only use the olive oil "raw" - ie without heating it. Butter and coconut oil are great for cooking!

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58a55f0986b8f49a8bc5666e10492569

on February 14, 2010
at 09:00 PM

Some ideas to look into:
- Vitamin K2
- Iodine (Iodoral is supposed to be easier on the stomach, but I use Lugol's drops).
- I second Semaj on omitting the Canola - it's just another unhealthy vegetable oil promoted only because it is cheap. Ranchers tried to fatten cattle with coconut oil with the result that they became more lean.
- On the Vitamin C, iirc much of that may be destroyed by cooking. I think Stefansson was eating at least some of the animal foods raw? Not as sure about this one. Sometimes it seems to me that I do worse with Vitamin C supplementation.
- IP-6. Men (and post-menopausal women) tend to accumulate iron stores (Ferritin) and that can cause problems after awhile. You can donate blood periodically (thus simulating blood loss from war/hunting accidents in Paleolithic times), or, IP-6 is a lot more convenient to get rid of the extra iron.
- Yes, we must ingest all that protein food! It comes with all the B-6 and other B vitamins we need. I don't supplement any B vitamins. Anyway, magnesium is better for bringing down homocysteine if it's high (Carolyn Dean), and if you are eating cheese you may want to supplement magnesium to balance the extra calcium. I like Natural Calm (Magnesium Citrate).

(Note to webmaster: did the markdown stop working? " - " no longer makes a bullet, and it is not preserving my LF's).

Eae21abfabb19c4617b2630386994fd9

on March 02, 2010
at 07:08 AM

I second the iodine- maybe best to obtain by seafood or seaweed. I would much rather bleed out then have IP-6 (phytic acid) chelating all my valuable minerals. I think you should look into this supplement more before advising others to take it. Stefansson was not eating raw meat in his observed all meat diet. For vitamin C he stated that "fresh meat" was needed as opposed to canned or salt preserved meat that sailors take on voyages.

58a55f0986b8f49a8bc5666e10492569

on March 04, 2010
at 07:26 AM

People are independent thinkers here. You needn't worry that people are going to blindly take my or anyone else's advice. Everybody knows that they have to do their own research and make up their own minds... Yes, you have to take IP6 first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, so that it won't bind to the minerals you want. BTW, Bill Sardi has a new book out - downsizingyourbody.com - blaming iron overload for obesity and other problems, and recommending IP6. He thinks too much iron causes carb cravings and insulin resistance just like fructose. He typically provides lots of research.

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on February 14, 2010
at 12:57 PM

With very low carb you have more essential nutritions in your food than with SAD. E.g. red meat is full of iron and zinc. Poultry a great vitamin B source. Eggs are nearly perfect as a mono food. Your eating plan has already all important things. According to the present knowledge vitamin D3 is one of the most important supplements today. Get your blood label check. It??s really worth. Most people are really shocked how low they are. Dealing D3 somewhere around 2000 - 10000 ie/d is ok. You don??t eat fatty fish like wild salmon or sardines so consider a good quality supply with EPA/DHA minimum 2g/d. Fruits are overrated. You don??t need them. Pure sugar. Try some leafy vegs like purslane or chicory (great food for gut bacteria), zuccini is also fine.

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E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

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on February 14, 2010
at 10:31 AM

I wouldn't worry about vitamin C, cf Vilhjalmur Stefansson's experience with the inuit. As Taubes notes, if you don't eat carb you need far less vitamin C. You might want more omega 3, since even omega 3 eggs will only contain some long chain omega 3 (EPA/DHA) rather than the less useful plant form and the meat you're consuming will necessarily be quite omega 6y.

If it's weight loss you're after, I'd have thought some low carb vegetables would be useful- butter might be a ZC source of calories, but a bowl of brocolli will be infinitely more filling. Some canned or frozen spinach or brocolli, for example, would cover a mass of nutrient needs (such as magnesium, potassium) and be extremely cheap (more so than supplements most likely).

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9a9e783b852d7d39f933f5fe31f6ae61

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on February 14, 2010
at 05:08 PM

If you really must ingest all that protein food, then maybe B vit + extra b6 to bring down homocysteine.

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on February 14, 2010
at 02:34 PM

You may want to investigate whether you are getting enough b complex vitamins. My understanding is that these are lacking in muscle meat and some of them are destroyed by cooking.

I did a little more reading and it seems this isn't as much of a concern as I thought. Apologies for adding noise :)

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on February 14, 2010
at 11:14 AM

10,000 units of Vitamin D3 in gelcal form, from the work of Dr. William Davis @ http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/

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