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Top Five: Supplement Version

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 19, 2012 at 4:57 PM

We had a great "top five paleo grocery staples" question a few months back. Recently, I've had to add a few supplements into my regiment to offset a possible copper toxicity. It got me wondering about what else I could be lacking (or overdoing...).

What are y'alls most essential supplements and why?

For me, I am most keen on always including:

  1. Vitamin D - I have yet to see a negative study about the D.
  2. A decent multi - though they have been downplayed, I see no problem in taking one. Worst come to worst, I pee out what isn't absorbed :)
  3. Zinc - shown to improve immune system and helps to offset copper toxicities
  4. Biotin - back when I was a vegetarian and lacking a lot of protein (superb for lucious hair), I added biotin and saw great results... after three months. Required a lot of patience!
  5. B Complex - again, helpful for the copper

The paleolithic diet is fantastic at covering the essentials, but it is frustrating to think you couldn't be at optimal health because of an itty-bitty supplement you forgot to take occasionally!

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on July 16, 2013
at 06:15 PM

topsoil depletion and mineral density perhaps

A1a7413b99e03bc77f02d95c4170ea43

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on August 08, 2012
at 09:55 PM

Haven't noticed any negative effects. Only been on it for a few months though. How does the zinc and magnesium affect insulin? DO you know the possible mechanism?

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on August 08, 2012
at 01:12 PM

Same zinc that I take, but even then, I don't use daily.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on August 08, 2012
at 01:06 PM

You take ZMA every night? How is your insulin sensitivity? I've read bad things about consistent ZMA use.

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on July 21, 2012
at 11:30 AM

Absolutely! Vitamnin K is far more an indicator for calcium uptake in the bone then actually suplmeneting with calcium per se. And lets ben honest: in a Westernized type of regime, calcium supplementation is an overkill in top of milk and cheese. In a more traditional diet, where cheese is actually consumed(i do some grass fed raw cheese from goat and cheese, sometimes cow) in far more moderation, the calcium that we get is far less, and probably a bit of supplementantion is indeed beneficial.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 20, 2012
at 07:44 PM

yeah... I think your are right Flip and that the danger is that MDs were telling pretty much all women to take it for "bone health". What a joke.... they seem to miss the forest for the trees most of the time with these blanket recommendations. Bones require a hell of a lot more than calcium!

Ba09704971e33481f5716c4790648966

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on July 20, 2012
at 11:42 AM

The doctor wouldn't let me test it unfortunately. He said I was fine. But I'm positive that is what happened to me... I'm really better now, Zinc and K2 seem to be really helping finish off my last symptoms. I'll check out Molybdenum by itself out too, I've heard it works well with Zinc and Manganese too. Might be beneficial. Thanks!

20203f15287a14924c714eb68a34ce6c

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on July 20, 2012
at 08:01 AM

I'm aware of such analysis, but i get pretty low calcium on my diet.( between 200-600mg, average 300mg. And it seems to me that the majority of the studies pointing to calcification of blood vessels or arteries by taking extra calcium where not administrating Vitamin K2 or D(which i get from the sun pretty much 5 months out of the year, and supplemenmt a bit through the winter) nor Magnesium, which as you said are very importante cofactors in the calcium absoprtion pathway.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 20, 2012
at 02:08 AM

Im curious why yo say this "Most people get substantially more than enough A." I have never heard that at all and in fact was told by both my ND and nutritionist of the importance of taking Vit A with D3.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 20, 2012
at 02:07 AM

and thanks for the link. Its a good one!

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 20, 2012
at 02:05 AM

I came with the D because it should be taken with D3!!! Chris how high was your copper? mine was up to almost 300 when I first figured it out.. The issues you list are interesting. Some I didn't know about. I also take NAC as part of my "chelation". Forgot about that. If yours is still too high you might what to add some Molybdenum. Zinc and NAC alone weren't enough for me.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 19, 2012
at 10:31 PM

I really do not get why a multi is needed by everyone. What is it that you aren't getting in food?

140e2a7ebd23d56038f8b597bab28464

on July 19, 2012
at 10:06 PM

Agreed on sleep. I am in college and have *never* pulled an all-nighter to study. Getting a solid 8 hours in is more important to me the night before an exam.

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on July 19, 2012
at 09:11 PM

there is some increased cardiovascular risk with supplmenting with Calcium, plus most people don't need extra. At one point my blood calcium was low and so I took it for a while but not alone. My ND only prescribes it as part of a bone synergy complex (D3, mag, K vitamins and Calcium). Im curious why you take it? Just curious as its seems like its mostly women who are told to take it by their MDs.

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on July 19, 2012
at 08:10 PM

It's unbelievably important - if I had to choose between working out and getting *enough* sleep, sleep wins hands down.

Ba09704971e33481f5716c4790648966

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on July 19, 2012
at 08:03 PM

Came with my Vitamin D

Ba09704971e33481f5716c4790648966

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on July 19, 2012
at 08:00 PM

Because they're together.

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 19, 2012
at 07:59 PM

The standard paleo Trifecta!

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 19, 2012
at 07:58 PM

Why vitamin A? Most people get substantially more than enough A.

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 19, 2012
at 07:57 PM

I like the sleep reference!

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 19, 2012
at 07:56 PM

NO, and that is why sunshine is #2, and D3 #4. But many people in northern latitudes experience a vitamin D winter, where they won't get enough sunshine no matter what they do. Thats why #4 is there.

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:38 PM

Crowlover, would you like to explain further your no-go for calcium?

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:36 PM

Julia please note that I corrected the typo on my dosage of Molybdenum. I know you are interested (and Im glad you are give the copper IUD) and I want to make sure you know the dose. Since your copper is not high to start with, you probably don't need the 2000mcg a day I take (in 3 divided dosages) but I would take a minimum of 500mcg and perhaps even 500 twice a day. It will be good to get a copper blood level asap so you can monitor if it is going up. Good luck.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:32 PM

Julia please not that I fixed the dosage of Molybdenum. I take 2000mcg per day (not 200). The zinc dose has remained the same, at "max" of 120 per day. My nutritionist started by on 1000mcg of molyb. at first but my copper wasn't coming down enough so we upped it to 2000mcg and that has helped. Its a several month process though.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:29 PM

good answer, mostly, imo. Still +1. Do not agree with the need for calcium though.

Ba09704971e33481f5716c4790648966

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:22 PM

I also experienced a lot of Copper elimination symptoms, like headaches, brain fog. Vitamin C and NAC helped. Zinc helps a lot, obviously. Reworked my exercise completely. Took it easy on myself. Vitamin A/D/K2/E. Obviously, you don't want to create a Copper deficiency, so don't do that either.

Ba09704971e33481f5716c4790648966

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:16 PM

Anytime I would eat something with a lot of copper in it, like chocolate, my heartbeat would skyrocket and I would have insomnia. Thyroid problems, wasn't sweating when working out. Inflamed eyelids from Zinc/Copper being out of balance. Allergies. Took me a while to figure it out.

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:10 PM

I'd like to know as well.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:09 PM

Also, this is an excellent whole foods, organic Zinc (by Innate Response) http://www.innateresponse.com/product-p/40028.htm I take 5 per day again bc Im working to lower copper.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:05 PM

Glad to help. It doesn't happen to everyone (although who knows maybe it does and most just don't check for it) still, it makes sense to take the zinc and moly. "preventatively"... can't hurt and will most likely help. IUDs are sure convenient and while copper can be an issue I think its better than a hormone IUD. Good luck with this and get your copper level checked every 6 months for a while if you can.

Ba09704971e33481f5716c4790648966

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on July 19, 2012
at 06:55 PM

Here is a really good website about it! http://naturalinsight.hubpages.com/hub/Hypercupremia-High-Copper I had what I thought was adrenal fatigue, dry scalp/hair loss, anxiety attacks, trouble sleeping, etc. It was pretty bad, thankfully my hair fully recovered. And everything else, too...

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on July 19, 2012
at 06:47 PM

Thank you so much! I got the copper IUD on Monday and am already learning about the toxicity it may lead to. Hence, precautionary measurements. I had no idea about the molybdenum!

140e2a7ebd23d56038f8b597bab28464

on July 19, 2012
at 06:39 PM

What were your symptoms, if you don't mind my asking? I need to know what I should be watching out for!

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on July 19, 2012
at 06:39 PM

I always advise against toxicity, I'm not a doctor either though.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on July 19, 2012
at 06:38 PM

Are both 2 and 4 necessary?

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on July 19, 2012
at 06:19 PM

a good multi (not that it is needed) should contain 3-5.

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on July 19, 2012
at 05:29 PM

I use Blood Builder by Mega Food. I've battled anemia since puberty and always accepted my massive amount of blood loss each month as "normal." Treating the blood loss will hopefully contribute to better levels.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 05:23 PM

That's exciting! I hope you can drop it. It took me a long time to get my ferritin up but I finally did. Which one do you use? Iron Extra by Vitanica?

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785efa3950951957e65fa17efb25b078

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on July 19, 2012
at 06:35 PM

A lot of supplements are useful, but provided one follows a paleo diet rich in a bevy of meats, eggs (choline), and colorful veggies, it really just comes down to:

  • Vitamin D - contrary to popular belief, it isn't simply about sunlight exposure. Pollutants, skin covered, sunscreen, etc renders most of it moot. 5000 UI is a nice dosage
  • Fish Oil - while paleo diet (grass-fed beef) helps with the n3:n6 ratio, pollutants have done a great job skewing it in ugly ways.

On top of that, fun ones that can be useful are:

  • A nootropic - eggs are rich in choline (200mg), but you need to be eating 5+ eggs a day to really feel it.
  • Creatine - it works. Considering saturation, it's near impossible to eat enough meat every single day to keep yourself saturated
  • Sleep - it's a cop out. But sleep helps with so many things it's a shame people do not get more of it (see how important sleep is)

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 19, 2012
at 07:57 PM

I like the sleep reference!

785efa3950951957e65fa17efb25b078

(452)

on July 19, 2012
at 08:10 PM

It's unbelievably important - if I had to choose between working out and getting *enough* sleep, sleep wins hands down.

140e2a7ebd23d56038f8b597bab28464

on July 19, 2012
at 10:06 PM

Agreed on sleep. I am in college and have *never* pulled an all-nighter to study. Getting a solid 8 hours in is more important to me the night before an exam.

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4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

on September 07, 2013
at 12:44 AM

Thank you for bringing up this important issue of too high copper!!

I too had copper toxicity (years of copper IUD and multi-vitamin with copper) and have been working on lowering it. My blood level is now, after almost two years, within the reference range (at the very high end).

For the copper issue, besides a clean diet of course, I have taken 120 mg a day of Zinc and 2000mcg of Molybdenum. Zinc always gets the attention but molybdenum is also really helpful for balancing/lowering copper levels.

Now to answer you question :) I take a bunch of antioxidants as I have Hashimoto's and have been on a protocol to get my Tpo Antibodies down. It has worked.
Ubiquinol

R-la

Astaxanthin

Clove, cinnamon, turmeric, egcg

D3 of course but I only take it together with K vitamins and Vita A (cod liver oil)

EDITED: correct dosage

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 07:32 PM

Julia please not that I fixed the dosage of Molybdenum. I take 2000mcg per day (not 200). The zinc dose has remained the same, at "max" of 120 per day. My nutritionist started by on 1000mcg of molyb. at first but my copper wasn't coming down enough so we upped it to 2000mcg and that has helped. Its a several month process though.

140e2a7ebd23d56038f8b597bab28464

on July 19, 2012
at 06:47 PM

Thank you so much! I got the copper IUD on Monday and am already learning about the toxicity it may lead to. Hence, precautionary measurements. I had no idea about the molybdenum!

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 07:05 PM

Glad to help. It doesn't happen to everyone (although who knows maybe it does and most just don't check for it) still, it makes sense to take the zinc and moly. "preventatively"... can't hurt and will most likely help. IUDs are sure convenient and while copper can be an issue I think its better than a hormone IUD. Good luck with this and get your copper level checked every 6 months for a while if you can.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 07:09 PM

Also, this is an excellent whole foods, organic Zinc (by Innate Response) http://www.innateresponse.com/product-p/40028.htm I take 5 per day again bc Im working to lower copper.

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Ba09704971e33481f5716c4790648966

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on July 19, 2012
at 05:07 PM

I experienced copper toxicity a couple months ago.

I'm not a doctor but I would advise against it.

Sorry, this is about supplements.

  1. Vitamin A/D
  2. Vitamin K2
  3. Zinc
  4. Multi-mineral
  5. Whey

Ba09704971e33481f5716c4790648966

(1794)

on July 19, 2012
at 06:55 PM

Here is a really good website about it! http://naturalinsight.hubpages.com/hub/Hypercupremia-High-Copper I had what I thought was adrenal fatigue, dry scalp/hair loss, anxiety attacks, trouble sleeping, etc. It was pretty bad, thankfully my hair fully recovered. And everything else, too...

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 20, 2012
at 02:07 AM

and thanks for the link. Its a good one!

Ba09704971e33481f5716c4790648966

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:16 PM

Anytime I would eat something with a lot of copper in it, like chocolate, my heartbeat would skyrocket and I would have insomnia. Thyroid problems, wasn't sweating when working out. Inflamed eyelids from Zinc/Copper being out of balance. Allergies. Took me a while to figure it out.

Ba09704971e33481f5716c4790648966

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on July 19, 2012
at 08:00 PM

Because they're together.

Ba09704971e33481f5716c4790648966

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on July 20, 2012
at 11:42 AM

The doctor wouldn't let me test it unfortunately. He said I was fine. But I'm positive that is what happened to me... I'm really better now, Zinc and K2 seem to be really helping finish off my last symptoms. I'll check out Molybdenum by itself out too, I've heard it works well with Zinc and Manganese too. Might be beneficial. Thanks!

140e2a7ebd23d56038f8b597bab28464

on July 19, 2012
at 06:39 PM

What were your symptoms, if you don't mind my asking? I need to know what I should be watching out for!

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 20, 2012
at 02:05 AM

I came with the D because it should be taken with D3!!! Chris how high was your copper? mine was up to almost 300 when I first figured it out.. The issues you list are interesting. Some I didn't know about. I also take NAC as part of my "chelation". Forgot about that. If yours is still too high you might what to add some Molybdenum. Zinc and NAC alone weren't enough for me.

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(26217)

on July 19, 2012
at 06:39 PM

I always advise against toxicity, I'm not a doctor either though.

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 19, 2012
at 07:58 PM

Why vitamin A? Most people get substantially more than enough A.

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:10 PM

I'd like to know as well.

Ba09704971e33481f5716c4790648966

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on July 19, 2012
at 08:03 PM

Came with my Vitamin D

Ba09704971e33481f5716c4790648966

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:22 PM

I also experienced a lot of Copper elimination symptoms, like headaches, brain fog. Vitamin C and NAC helped. Zinc helps a lot, obviously. Reworked my exercise completely. Took it easy on myself. Vitamin A/D/K2/E. Obviously, you don't want to create a Copper deficiency, so don't do that either.

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on July 19, 2012
at 06:50 PM

1.Vitamin C as a precursor for glutathione(1-3grs day in day out); 2.Folate(200-400mg), 3.Vitamin K2 as mk-4(200-400mcrg daily) 4.Magnesium Citrate(400-600mg daily), 5.Egg-shell Calcium carbonate(400-800mg day in day out)

This on top of a moderate array of foods such as: grass fed liver, heart, tongue, pastured yolks as main protein sources; mackerel/sardines/mussels/shrimp/clams; sweet potatoes, vegetable soups(zuchinni,cauliflower,carrots,pumpkin) and bone broths(with kelp slices); coconut oil, flour or coconut meat, grass fed ghee, red palm oil; iodized marine salt, white rice, some skinned new potatoes(not so often); seasonal fruit(this time of the year is peaches, oranges, some melon or banana), and moderate intake of vegetables: boiled broccoli, lettuce, cucumber, carrots, asparagus, or similar.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 19, 2012
at 09:11 PM

there is some increased cardiovascular risk with supplmenting with Calcium, plus most people don't need extra. At one point my blood calcium was low and so I took it for a while but not alone. My ND only prescribes it as part of a bone synergy complex (D3, mag, K vitamins and Calcium). Im curious why you take it? Just curious as its seems like its mostly women who are told to take it by their MDs.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:29 PM

good answer, mostly, imo. Still +1. Do not agree with the need for calcium though.

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:38 PM

Crowlover, would you like to explain further your no-go for calcium?

20203f15287a14924c714eb68a34ce6c

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on July 20, 2012
at 08:01 AM

I'm aware of such analysis, but i get pretty low calcium on my diet.( between 200-600mg, average 300mg. And it seems to me that the majority of the studies pointing to calcification of blood vessels or arteries by taking extra calcium where not administrating Vitamin K2 or D(which i get from the sun pretty much 5 months out of the year, and supplemenmt a bit through the winter) nor Magnesium, which as you said are very importante cofactors in the calcium absoprtion pathway.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 20, 2012
at 07:44 PM

yeah... I think your are right Flip and that the danger is that MDs were telling pretty much all women to take it for "bone health". What a joke.... they seem to miss the forest for the trees most of the time with these blanket recommendations. Bones require a hell of a lot more than calcium!

20203f15287a14924c714eb68a34ce6c

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on July 21, 2012
at 11:30 AM

Absolutely! Vitamnin K is far more an indicator for calcium uptake in the bone then actually suplmeneting with calcium per se. And lets ben honest: in a Westernized type of regime, calcium supplementation is an overkill in top of milk and cheese. In a more traditional diet, where cheese is actually consumed(i do some grass fed raw cheese from goat and cheese, sometimes cow) in far more moderation, the calcium that we get is far less, and probably a bit of supplementantion is indeed beneficial.

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on July 19, 2012
at 05:05 PM

  1. Lots of meat and veggies
  2. Lots of sunshine
  3. Exercise
  4. D3
  5. Omega-3 DHA

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on July 19, 2012
at 06:38 PM

Are both 2 and 4 necessary?

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 19, 2012
at 07:56 PM

NO, and that is why sunshine is #2, and D3 #4. But many people in northern latitudes experience a vitamin D winter, where they won't get enough sunshine no matter what they do. Thats why #4 is there.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 20, 2012
at 02:08 AM

Im curious why yo say this "Most people get substantially more than enough A." I have never heard that at all and in fact was told by both my ND and nutritionist of the importance of taking Vit A with D3.

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:56 PM

Regarding the copper toxicity issue that has come up a few times on this thread, keep in mind that since zinc and copper compete with one another for absorption, supplementing with either alone will eventually cause problems. Because of this, I use Jarrow brand zinc, which is 1/15 copper, so I'll never become copper deficient.

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on August 08, 2012
at 01:12 PM

Same zinc that I take, but even then, I don't use daily.

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on July 19, 2012
at 06:42 PM

Cod Liver Oil/Butter Oil has really dramatically helped my skin. I don't now if it is one of the particular nutrients or the synergy of all of them, but I don't want to mess with a good thing for the sake of finding out.

My nails have also been much stronger than ever before. That could be all the pastured eggs I've been eating.

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on July 19, 2012
at 06:40 PM

  1. Liquid Vitamin D
  2. Fermented Butter Oil / Cod Liver Oil
  3. Whey Protein
  4. Branch Chain Amino Acids
  5. Creatine

I'm a very active CrossFit / Olympic Lifting Coach, and a bartender as well. The one thing that I WISH I could supplement more is sleep!

I also take ZMA at night, and sometimes take some melatonin to help me get to sleep quicker when I bartend late and have to get up early the next morning to coach.

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on August 08, 2012
at 01:06 PM

You take ZMA every night? How is your insulin sensitivity? I've read bad things about consistent ZMA use.

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on August 08, 2012
at 09:55 PM

Haven't noticed any negative effects. Only been on it for a few months though. How does the zinc and magnesium affect insulin? DO you know the possible mechanism?

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on July 19, 2012
at 05:31 PM

I have pyroluria so need to take a lot of B6 (400mg), zinc (50mg), and a bit more GLA (~100mg). Top general supplements for me are vitamin D3 (5000IU), and magnesium (1/2tsp mg chloride in water).

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on July 19, 2012
at 05:13 PM

My one and only supplement is a whole-food iron tab. I have a blood draw tomorrow and may be able to drop it.

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on July 19, 2012
at 05:29 PM

I use Blood Builder by Mega Food. I've battled anemia since puberty and always accepted my massive amount of blood loss each month as "normal." Treating the blood loss will hopefully contribute to better levels.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 05:23 PM

That's exciting! I hope you can drop it. It took me a long time to get my ferritin up but I finally did. Which one do you use? Iron Extra by Vitanica?

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on August 08, 2012
at 01:24 PM

  1. Vitamin D (I tend to take a large dose once a week, maybe 50,000 iu)
  2. Cod Liver Oil or transdermal Omega 3 (AgeForce)
  3. L-Glutamine (pre-workout, especially longer MetCon or endurance)
  4. Magnesium (each night before bed)
  5. Betane HCL (with very heavy protein meals)

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on August 08, 2012
at 01:23 PM

Top 5 supplements:

  1. Vitamin D
  2. Magnesium (as Natural Calm)
  3. Methylcobalamin, folate, P-5-P, betaine (can be gotten together with Methyl Guard Plus)
  4. S-adenosyl methionine (SAM-e)
  5. Probiotic: I alternate between Prescript Assist and Ultimate Flora Critical Care

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on August 08, 2012
at 12:06 PM

Thank you so much for this post about copper. As I had the symptoms, after reading the link posted I went to made my lab tests. The problem is that my doc didnt accept external labs (I am in spain, where medicine is public) and don´t know anything about copper issue. Foer her, If I´m not very ill, I´m OK. I have hashimoto and I have no doctor to work on it. I didn´t know any one in Spain, and I dont have money at all, to be with Haskell that is the only one I know about. If someone that have been with copper toxicity know anything about lab test numbers, I would be very gratefull if he or she can tell me if I have or not copper toxicity. My numbers are:

Ceruloplasmin: 24,70 mg/dL ("normal" values of reference are 20-60) Copper: 146 ug/dL ("normal" values of reference are 70-155,03) Zinc: 60,07ug/dL ("normal" values of reference are 70-120)

I have also all the numbers in mg/L, if someone prefers this scale. Thank you so much!

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on July 19, 2012
at 05:14 PM

I take Omega 3, Vit-D and a multi vit

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 19, 2012
at 07:59 PM

The standard paleo Trifecta!

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(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 10:31 PM

I really do not get why a multi is needed by everyone. What is it that you aren't getting in food?

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on July 16, 2013
at 06:15 PM

topsoil depletion and mineral density perhaps

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