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Thoughts on Nicotine Gum?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 21, 2012 at 10:40 PM

I while back Rob Wolf answered a question on his podcast about nicotine gum and if I remember correctly he seemed to have nothing but positive things to say about it.

Well about 12 days ago i decided to give it a shot. I started chewing 2-3 pieces of 4mg Habitrol gum and made sure NOT to change anything else about my life style so as to apply some level of control.

Here's my experience

  1. Improved Sleep
  2. Improved focus. It seems like it's easier to study now.
  3. Weight loss (180 down to about 174)
  4. Less hunger. No more binge eating. I just really don't want to eat.
  5. Improved bowel movements (No more constipation. Stool is more solid)
  6. Increased strength (PR'd both my squat and clean 1RM)

These are all positives in my book. Maybe it's placebo, maybe not, I don't know.

What I do want to know is about any potential adverse side effects this "supplement" might have. LIke ahem "cancer"

Does anybody think nicotine could be dangerous and if so why?

Some background on me. Male, 6'1" started eating paleo and lifting weights about a year and a half ago, was slow carb before that.

Edit: It's probably important for me to add that I already smoke socially and have for I while.

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on August 23, 2012
at 11:38 PM

You're overdosing. Try 1/2 of 2mg gum piece, 3 times a day.

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on August 23, 2012
at 12:36 AM

Jamie, I disagree, the scientific literature is filled with numerous studies that show Caffeine: increases alertness and reduces fatigue; improves performance on vigilance tasks; Regular users score higher on sustained response tests; it has a neuroprotective profile and has an ability to reduce amyloid-beta production; It has a positive effect on memory performance; consumption leads to adenosine A2A receptors improvement for neuroprotection; increased fine motor skill performance.

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on August 23, 2012
at 12:26 AM

Caffiene only improves vigilance when tired. It provides no cognitive benefit.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

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on August 23, 2012
at 12:24 AM

^ What? So is tobacco. So is datura. Being a natural plant doesnt prevent something from being bad for you.

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on August 23, 2012
at 12:23 AM

^ Increased actyl-choline increases your threshold to being woken by noise etc. This is probably why the nicotine is having that effect. I have to disagree that caffiene provides focus. No study shows any improvement under caffiene, unlike tobacco, betel nut or choline supplements, all of which actually effect the area of the brain resposible for alertness and memory. I would still suggest a choline supplement over nicotine, primarily just because of the addictiveness.

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on August 22, 2012
at 05:58 PM

Yeah that's a concern for me too. Getting addicted. I tested myself the other day and went 24 hours without popping a piece. Seemed easy so i think I'm good for now. Long term who knows. I've been smoking socially though since I was 18 and to this day it's never really "hooked" me to the point where I'm "craving" it

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on August 22, 2012
at 05:47 PM

Yeah the sleep is weird. I slept like a rock today for ten hours. It usually takes me a LONG time to fall asleep. Not last night though. I'm a paradoxical responder to melatonin so who knows why the nicotine helps. Again could be placebo. I also struggle with non-24, i wonder if thats significant.

429e01b74c31847aed3af35ef9973256

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on August 22, 2012
at 06:37 AM

OP here. I guess I should probably ad that I already smoke socially so I do have some what of a tolerance to the drug. It's the unknowns I'm worried about. Though I'm sure everything has unknowns.

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on August 22, 2012
at 04:22 AM

Also consider galantamine.

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on August 22, 2012
at 03:12 AM

i don't think it's any worse than caffeine

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on August 22, 2012
at 01:14 AM

You might want to try a choline supplement instead, as many of these effects like sleep and focus and AC mediated (not all, its likely the BMs and hunger changes are strictly nicotinic). DMAE or CDP choline would be my suggestion.

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on August 22, 2012
at 01:16 PM

I think, if the choice is between smoking and nicotine gum, then nicotine gum is the right choice.

But if the choice is between proper eating and nicotine gum, then proper eating is the right choice.

1) Improved sleep -- Nicotine gum lists insomnia as one of it's side effects. Studies have shown that nicotine reduces the body's ability to get into REM and deep sleep. So your experience seems to be completely opposite of what one would expect. There are better, natural supplements to improve sleep

2-3) Caffeine does the same thing, and is far less addictive. Although, proper sleep does as well, so maybe this is a result of sleeping better.

4) This is definitely something that nicotine does, but the side effects are not worth it to me.

5) Odd, Nicotine gum typically gives people diarrhea. Either way, solid is not a good result. You want it to be soft and squishy. Try eating more fat (that will help with #4 as well)

6) Got me, I'd imagine this is just a placebo effect. Many gum chewers complain about joint pain and fatigue.

For general adverse health effects of nicotine. My biggest concern is that nicotine is a vasoconstrictor this will result is a lot of stress on your heart and reduced blood flow to the body that will lead to systemic inflammation and hypertension.

Nicotine is not an appropriate supplement to a healthy life style, but it is an acceptable alternative to smoking IF the patient is truly willing to quit and the gum is part of that effort -- NOT a long term solution.

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on August 22, 2012
at 05:47 PM

Yeah the sleep is weird. I slept like a rock today for ten hours. It usually takes me a LONG time to fall asleep. Not last night though. I'm a paradoxical responder to melatonin so who knows why the nicotine helps. Again could be placebo. I also struggle with non-24, i wonder if thats significant.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

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on August 23, 2012
at 12:23 AM

^ Increased actyl-choline increases your threshold to being woken by noise etc. This is probably why the nicotine is having that effect. I have to disagree that caffiene provides focus. No study shows any improvement under caffiene, unlike tobacco, betel nut or choline supplements, all of which actually effect the area of the brain resposible for alertness and memory. I would still suggest a choline supplement over nicotine, primarily just because of the addictiveness.

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on August 23, 2012
at 12:26 AM

Caffiene only improves vigilance when tired. It provides no cognitive benefit.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on August 23, 2012
at 12:36 AM

Jamie, I disagree, the scientific literature is filled with numerous studies that show Caffeine: increases alertness and reduces fatigue; improves performance on vigilance tasks; Regular users score higher on sustained response tests; it has a neuroprotective profile and has an ability to reduce amyloid-beta production; It has a positive effect on memory performance; consumption leads to adenosine A2A receptors improvement for neuroprotection; increased fine motor skill performance.

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on August 21, 2012
at 11:43 PM

Nicotine gum gives me stomach ache and hiccups. I personally prefer the patches. I'm trying to quit, i'm a much nicer person when i don't smoke. :D good luck..

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on August 22, 2012
at 08:36 AM

Helped me quit smoking. Gives a good buzz. Keeps my weight loss on track. And Robb Wolf uses it so it's good enough for me. I chew 1-2 a day of the 2mg.

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on August 21, 2012
at 10:59 PM

Nicotine, in and of itself, is not cancerous per se. Beyond being addictive, it does have stimulant effects and some other not so nice effects, but so do a lot of other things. If you aren't already smoking, I really wouldn't chew nicotine gum, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine#Psychoactive_effects

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on August 22, 2012
at 03:12 AM

i don't think it's any worse than caffeine

429e01b74c31847aed3af35ef9973256

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on August 22, 2012
at 06:37 AM

OP here. I guess I should probably ad that I already smoke socially so I do have some what of a tolerance to the drug. It's the unknowns I'm worried about. Though I'm sure everything has unknowns.

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on August 21, 2012
at 10:56 PM

Nicotine is not carcinogenic; it is the tars and thousands of other poisons in cigarettes that causes cancer.

Nicotine is both addictive and possibly damaging in unknown ways. Nicotine is generally not studied outside of tobacco, so it's hard to peg issues on nicotine alone. There is some evidence to support thy it is bad for arteries, outside of arterial effects from tobacco.

Stick with more studied chemicals like caffeine if you want an appetite suppressant and pick me up. Avoid strongly addictive drugs like nicotine.

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on August 23, 2012
at 08:38 PM

one benefit increase my concentration that for sure.

downside find it harder to fall asleep. and also I don't feel normal until I have Nicorette gum which tells me I'm currently addicted to this stuff.But it's better than smoking that's for sure.

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on August 22, 2012
at 04:30 PM

Its also used as pesticide. I think its might irresponsible for Robb Wolf to recommend it. Its highly processed and is a chemical stimulant. At least coffee is a natural plant.

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on August 23, 2012
at 12:24 AM

^ What? So is tobacco. So is datura. Being a natural plant doesnt prevent something from being bad for you.

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on August 22, 2012
at 07:38 AM

My main problem when I was addicted to nicotine was impulsivity. I simply took choices in the now and avoided long-term choices, something that led to a much poorer diet, less exercise and more alcohol. Now I don't know if this was completely due to the nicotine or if other factors caused it, but I felt more relaxed after quitting the stuff, like I was more able to do the right choices, not always looking for instant rewards. There are some studies done on this subject: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21503608

Whatever you do, don't get addicted to the stuff, after almost nine months without it, I still crave it sometimes, it's a very, very addictive drug that will mess more with your reward system than you like to think.

429e01b74c31847aed3af35ef9973256

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on August 22, 2012
at 05:58 PM

Yeah that's a concern for me too. Getting addicted. I tested myself the other day and went 24 hours without popping a piece. Seemed easy so i think I'm good for now. Long term who knows. I've been smoking socially though since I was 18 and to this day it's never really "hooked" me to the point where I'm "craving" it

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