Hello everyone :)
Obviouslly alot of people go paleo with some kind of health malady, and especially digestive issues.
(My personal SIBO story follows at the end)
Anyway, Id really like to hear from others: what has worked for you?!!!
What supplements? Has anyone found a decent cure, or treatment for gut rawness due to reduced mucosa? What about this DGL stuff? Slippery elm? Or has anyone found that some amino, like glutamine, at some dose speeds up recovery?
Anti-biotics? Herbal, or (shock horror) synthetic (I did have a two week course - I really needed to)
(I personally had one dose of probiotic make be significantly sick for about 24 hours, and i have read that it may be a bad idea too, according to some for SIBO, so I am reluctant to think of this as a good approach. There is no doubt my motility is damaged, so without good cleaning waves, adding more bacteria to my small intestine orally, seems not to make logical sense. Still if it works for you, tell us know, and which probiotic too!)
Foods? Is there any great food combination/menu you found?
Anything else ive missed? Or any suggestions from those who dont have SIBO, based on something theyve read/science/logic?
My story so far:
My personal experimentation with my SIBO, is that bloating, burping are totally reduced when I avoid high starch foods (scd/maps), and high fructose intakes or fodmaps (fodmaps).
I try and get some carb in just via a bit of glucose as sweetner, and a small bowl of berries with breakfast and dinner. Also occasional unsweetened cranberry juice. Basically all quick carbs, but as I understand it, I beleive glucose can be stored for latter use. Slow carbs are a no go, because slow glucose, means slowly digested.
I am finding I totally need to watch my electrolytes and hydration with even quite moderate ketosis (I think I am about 60-70 grams of carb a day maybe, fairly inactive ATM). I now make sure I eat and ingest plenty of electrolyte foods, very regularly too avoid this.
I have started using homemade jelly (gelatin) for coating my gut, because even though my bloating and burping, reflux, unwellness feeling went down completely, I still experience some fairly difficult discomfort/rawness in my intestines. Gelatin seems to help quite alot, just not 100% yet, sadly. So ive been eating very regular homemade jelly.
Ive been using a digestive enzymes to further starve bacteria. That seems like a solid idea, even if the only difference it makes is in the stomach, before the enzyme proteins are digested.
And also glutamine, which I stopped for a while, when I now beleive I was having electrolyte issues, but having learnt there is something like 5 grams of glutamine in a chicken breast, I may return to taking 500mgs a day, soon.
(Then again, if theres that much in meat, and I am eating plenty of meat, would it make much difference unless it was a very high dose? Being brain blood barrier penetrable, I worry that excess glutamate will all turn into glutamine and GABA and mess with my brain function/CNS)
Im try to also wait 3-5 hours between meals, both to clear any fructose for the rate limiting factor of fructose, and allow for important intestinal cleansing waves.
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on July 13, 2012
at 07:03 AM
Here is what I did when I found out I had SIBO about a year ago:
ADP oil of oregano, garlic pill + 1-2 tsp cinnamon daily for 6-8 weeks
bone broth every day
digestive enzymes + betaine HCL the first 6 months
L-glutamine on and off (but more consistently at the beginning)
started fermented cold liver oil 3 months ago
probiotics (started after 1-2 months, but took S. Boulardii while taking herbal antibiotics)
diet (modified GAPS, low-FODMAP, low-carb diet):
meat, poultry, fish, eggs
fats: ghee, coconut oil, butter, EVOO (couldn't do butter for a while, only ghee, but I now tolerate it)
limited amount of vegetables (always thoroughly cooked, pureed and low-FODMAP at the beginning; I can now tolerate 1-2 cups of almost any kind of vegetables per meal)
I avoid nuts, fruits, starchy vegetables, coconut flour, dairy and sugar
- stress management (belly breathing and regular breaks)
I manage to stay symptom-free most of the time if I stick to my SIBO plan!
on August 28, 2012
at 01:13 PM
While diet and nutrition are elemental in combating digestive problems, perhaps the most overlooked and under-rated technique is breathing. Belly breathing as it was previously referred to is intrinsic to a healthier digestive system for a multitude of reasons. For example, proper breathing (ie into the stomach and not the chest) has a neutralising affect on the acidity of the foods we eat. It helps us to reach a more alkaline state which is better for organ functioning and in reducing our susceptibility to cancer and autoimmune diseases. In addition it forces us to correct our posture and so also promotes greater structure in our diaphragm and abdomen which in itself helps food to move through the gut more efficiently allowing better nutrient absorption and waste extraction.
Try the breathing techniques suggested by qigong (chi kung). Also stretch your abdominal muscles by pushing your stomach out while breathing into it:) Remember always breath in through the nose and out through the mouth and never breath into the chest this will only compound digestive problems!
Hope this helps it certainly helped me:)
on February 10, 2013
at 12:13 AM
Flagyl didn't help my sibo. Low carb & low fodmap is also not helping. I saw some minor relief from propolis 2x/day and turmeric 3x/day for a month. Unfortunately I stopped taking them, and actually didn't have a relapse, I was completely stable, even eating GF waffles and potatoes, no problems whatsoever. Re-introducing probiotics has brought it back, and I am in a terrible flare for the past few weeks.
on December 01, 2012
at 09:34 PM
I have been battling SIBO for over 10 years. I had it so bad I was in the hospital ywich for dehydration. Flagyl has been the only thing that magically cures me. I tried everything natural with no avail. However, after doing some research, I gave oregano oil a try and I have had amazing results with it. I eat a diet full of nuts, seeds, whole grains, veggies, and lean proteins. I limit fruit to 1 piece a day. I also take Three Lac once every other day. I had to go through a lot of probiotics to find the right one. I may try s boulardi next, but am happy where I am. I hope this can help someone.
on August 12, 2012
at 09:10 PM
Currently battling it now :(. Seems to be the underlying cause of my digestive and acne issues. I am Paleo for a few months now and just recently stopped eating fruit/starchy vegetables; maybe about 1 1/2 months ago.
I first started off eating 0 carb and eating veggies at only one meal during the day, which would cause some gas and bloating. I have been progressively increasing intake of veggies, avoiding starchy ones, as my gas and bloating symptoms subsided. I'm currently around 50-100g of carbs of veggies each day without significant bloating or gas. It's definitely been an improvement on my digestion and I can see it in my skin(which is far from even good :/) which is less inflamed.
I also started taking magnesium and CLO along with my daily D3 and zinc so I'm not sure if that may have increased improvement, but I'll mention that as well.
One thing I noticed is that cheating sets you back unfortunately. I've got a strong enough will to avoid fruits and eating too many carbs but alcohol consumption definitely set me back. My tongue which is normally a white coating that seems to be fading back every day, would breakout into an almost yellow disgusting coating that would fade as the week progressed and I got back on track.
Wrote this in a hurry so sorry for any mistakes
on August 12, 2012
at 06:20 PM
I also have some sibo and problems with fructose malabsorption. A lot of people tell you to take probiotics, but that will seriously backfire because it is an excess of healthy bacteria that is upsetting you in the first place. Right now I'm starting to take S. Boulardii. It's a yeast, not a bacteria, that temporarily colonizes your intestines to crowd out the bacteria. I've tried taking natural antifungals and antibacterials like oregano oil and olive leaf extract, but as soon as I eat a piece of fruit, it all goes out the window. Perhaps the S. Boulardii will bring everything back into balance, but in any case, fall is coming and there wont be so much tempting fresh fruit in season at the farmer's market, so that will help too. But, in any case, as irritating as the symptoms can be, it's my understanding that your intestines are not damaged by fructose intake the way they are damaged by things like gluten and lectins. Has anyone heard otherwise? If the health benefits of eating fruit outweigh the symptoms and there is no damage involved, then this could just be normal digestive upset and not some huge medical problem. Right now, diagnosing gastrointestinal difficulties is very fashionable and there is a huge industry behind it, making tons of money off of people trying to convince them that there isn't anything wrong with them. No one likes to be bloated and rumbley, but it doesn't mean there's anything necessarily wrong with you either.
on September 10, 2013
at 01:30 AM
I see patients who do very well on a combination of Glutamine, Oil of oregano, Black walnut, Cats Claw, wormwood, Probiotic and DPPIV enzymes. For those who experience problems with the probiotics it could be due to the dairy in the probiotic. Probiotics are essential! if your having a bad response- there are any number of causes. Remember SIBO it not just bacteria it could be yeast. For those who cant tolerate the sugar- its most likely the yeast that your feeding causing a bloom
on July 14, 2013
at 04:14 PM
I just figured out that I have SIBO. From what I've read, it seems cases can vary significantly from person to person depending on which bacteria have colonized the small intestine. Therefore it seems counter-productive to me to try to advise others with blanket statements. However, I think sharing our own experiences is great, both for the things we can learn from each other, and the supported feeling we can get.
Personally, I feel worst when I eat a lot of raw or very fibrous vegetables. I think I also am sensitive to probiotics, but I am testing a new one right now with no prebiotics added. I hope it works because I also have candida, and would like to keep fighting it!
I am also about to start with oregano. I am encouraged by the positive responses it seems like many people have had!
If anyone has snack or meal recommendations for fighting SIBO and Candida at the same time, I'm all ears!
on March 28, 2013
at 07:56 PM
For those of you who took out fruits and veggies, what did you eat in the beginning? I'm figuring meat, but anything else? Broth, fats?
on January 31, 2013
at 09:38 PM
What dose/length of time did you use with flagyl?? I was worried nothing other than rifaximin wild work but you can't get it in Canada... I excited to hear flagyl might help!