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probiotic foods vs. supplements

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Created November 19, 2011 at 10:58 PM

I have always been of the philosophy to get my nutrients through food rather than supplementation. There is a huge difference IMO between "synthetic", "naturally derived", and "natural state". So as for probiotics is there any particular reasons that fermented food would not provide the same or superior results to supplement form?

Home made yogurt and sauerkraut are the two I plan to add to the eating plan first. Supplements do seem to have a wider variety of bacteria, but not even sure if that is a good thing. What do you think? Do you supplement them? And if so is it just because getting it naturally seems like too much work or do you actually believe the supplements to be a better option?

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on November 20, 2011
at 06:23 PM

Wild Fermentation is a fantastic resource. I make kombucha and kraut, as well as raw milk kefir for my family. I'm not sure if that has everything covered, but it sure is tastier and more cost effective than spending money on supplements for four people. (Also, I know that the cultures haven't been compromised when I make the ferments myself.) I think supplements are better than nothing, but probably not as good as real food.

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on November 20, 2011
at 05:28 PM

I agree nance. Just tried my first batch of sauerkraut made at home today! Had some kick, but it was strangely good. That strong of taste doesn't seem like something you would dig into, but I did!

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on November 20, 2011
at 05:22 PM

sounds good ...I've been reading Wild Fermentation lately and it really resonates with me.

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on November 20, 2011
at 04:38 PM

A nice video about making water kefir here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7svkQuUYYc

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 20, 2011
at 04:36 PM

Basic instructions are here: http://starfire-studio.com/kefirbycarys.pdf I use organic whole cane sugar (the microbes eat it), a fig, 5-6 fresh cranberries and a tbsp of raisins plus 1/4 of a lemon and a pinch each of baking soda and bone meal--works like crazy!

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on November 20, 2011
at 08:00 AM

how do you make water kefir?

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on November 20, 2011
at 12:04 AM

Me too. I drink kombucha and/or raw goat's kefir daily.

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on November 19, 2011
at 11:26 PM

I'm like you: I prefer food to supplements, so I don't take a probiotic supplement. I eat sauerkraut, kimchee, and lacto-fermented pickles. I ferment legumes before I cook them. And, I also drink kombucha. I don't know if that covers all the same bacterial varieties found in the supplements, but my digestion is good so I figure that's what matters.

That said, I don't think there is anything wrong with using a supplement if someone is unable or unwilling to eat fermented foods on a regular basis--or in addition to fermented foods on a short-term basis if their digestive problems are severe. I just think getting it from food is better when possible.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on November 20, 2011
at 12:04 AM

Me too. I drink kombucha and/or raw goat's kefir daily.

E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

(4347)

on November 20, 2011
at 06:23 PM

Wild Fermentation is a fantastic resource. I make kombucha and kraut, as well as raw milk kefir for my family. I'm not sure if that has everything covered, but it sure is tastier and more cost effective than spending money on supplements for four people. (Also, I know that the cultures haven't been compromised when I make the ferments myself.) I think supplements are better than nothing, but probably not as good as real food.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on November 20, 2011
at 05:22 PM

sounds good ...I've been reading Wild Fermentation lately and it really resonates with me.

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on November 20, 2011
at 06:14 PM

The whole 'which probiotics are best' area is still under investigation in terms of what species might be most beneficial, for what, to which populations and how they are best delivered. The literature seems to suggest that one or two different species might be termed 'beneficial' such as Lactobacillus rhamnous (see: http://questioning-answers.blogspot.com/2011/08/probiotics-affect-neurochemistry-of.html) but there are some very large gaps as to how different species interact both with themselves and with other elements such as the immune system or even the gut virome (see: http://gutness-gracious-me.blogspot.com/2011/09/gut-virome.html).

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 20, 2011
at 07:08 AM

Our lifestyle is based on skepticism and doubt regarding the manufactured food-like products consumed on the SAD.

So, I am pretty skeptical and doubtful regarding the manufactured nutrient-like products known as supplements.

For the most part, I do my best to eat a variety of foods that minimizes the need for supplements. I do occasionally stir a little cod liver oil into my bowl of warm bone broth, and sometimes a little powdered kelp on my green salad.

My new hobbies are making water kefir and viili/yogurt and I also buy sauerkraut. I have to say the fermented foods are having a good effect on how I feel and I felt good before.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 20, 2011
at 04:36 PM

Basic instructions are here: http://starfire-studio.com/kefirbycarys.pdf I use organic whole cane sugar (the microbes eat it), a fig, 5-6 fresh cranberries and a tbsp of raisins plus 1/4 of a lemon and a pinch each of baking soda and bone meal--works like crazy!

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on November 20, 2011
at 08:00 AM

how do you make water kefir?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on November 20, 2011
at 05:28 PM

I agree nance. Just tried my first batch of sauerkraut made at home today! Had some kick, but it was strangely good. That strong of taste doesn't seem like something you would dig into, but I did!

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on November 20, 2011
at 04:38 PM

A nice video about making water kefir here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7svkQuUYYc

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