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Paleo - supplements ? Ha ha

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 03, 2012 at 12:50 PM

How can there possibly be so many questions about 'supplements' on a paleo site ?

Are people missing the point totally ?

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on February 03, 2012
at 08:03 PM

Exactly. The foods we eat today are NOT the same our ancestors ate, which were the wild varieties. Our food, both meawt & veggies, are SELECTED. Selected for more muscle, or more sugar, but not for more nutrients. That's why supplementation today is needed.

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on February 03, 2012
at 03:38 PM

Well said. The soil our produce grows in has been majorly depleted over the years meaning we may not get the same level of nutrients from them. Not to mention GMO meddling.

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on February 03, 2012
at 02:33 PM

Yes, I think you missed the point totally. Do what works for you. Supplements may work for some.

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on February 03, 2012
at 01:38 PM

How can there possibly be so many questions about reenactment on the internet ?

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on February 03, 2012
at 01:12 PM

We live in the 21st century. Paleo is not about re-enactment, it's about being healthy. I happen to do way better by having a tight diet and by adding some high-quality supplements (vitamin D, magnesium and vitamin k2). Possible duplicate : http://paleohacks.com/questions/641/arent-vitamin-supplements-un-paleo

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on February 03, 2012
at 01:48 PM

There comes a point where being "Optimal" trumps being "Ancestral". Ancestral dieting is the base, and people have specific needs past that, in (I would guess) about half the people that adopt this way of eating.

Most folks start noting specific deficiencies in their bloodwork several months after Paleo. Since they are no longer eating a grab-bag of multivitamins in fortified base foods like milk, cereal, and bread - or supplements like energy drinks and meal replacement shakes, it tends to make those deficiencies more visible and common. Not everyone can eat liver 3 times a week, and not everyone will put down 3lbs of vegetables a day, which is (in my experience) what it takes to get as much nutrient density as possible.

So, you will find many Paleos who take supplements. Some, it may be as simple as ZMA before bed and K2 in the morning (my personal needs), some may go even further.

My counter question is as thus...

Does it affect you? IF not, then why should you care?

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on February 03, 2012
at 03:32 PM

I think you need to remember that even with a conscious effort to eat according to pre-agricultural principles, it just cannot be done 100% in the modern urban world. Its unlikely that most people will spend most of their waking hours outdoors, for starters, so they are not going to synthesise as much vitamin D. Our activity levels are lower and less natural, and the types of stresses we face are different. Not necessarily worse - getting stuck in traffic is far better than facing down an angry bear. Yet its not the nature of the stressor but the inappropriateness, so often today, of responding with a burst of physical activity to clear out the cortisol and adrenalin rush, that puts us in a different place than our ancestors. We forget that simply dealing with hundreds of unfamiliar faces constantly is not a natural thing either.

Then there is the fact that even the "right foods" are not as our ancestors found them. Those insanely swollen apples and oranges at the supermarket are not much like the original wild types. On top of that, you don't know how many days from the tree to your mouth.

The last factor is many people are trying to reverse damage caused by poor food choices for 10, 20, 40 years. Perhaps for a time they will need more of particular nutrients than an already healthy person is likely to.

So these are just some good reasons why supplementation might make sense even within a paleo framework, though I am sure all would agree its better to get your nutrients from food when possible.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 03, 2012
at 03:38 PM

Well said. The soil our produce grows in has been majorly depleted over the years meaning we may not get the same level of nutrients from them. Not to mention GMO meddling.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on February 03, 2012
at 08:03 PM

Exactly. The foods we eat today are NOT the same our ancestors ate, which were the wild varieties. Our food, both meawt & veggies, are SELECTED. Selected for more muscle, or more sugar, but not for more nutrients. That's why supplementation today is needed.

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on February 03, 2012
at 02:26 PM

Yep. Many of us also get born in hospitals, have access to medical and emergency care, drive cars, live in houses, watch the Superbowl and get on the Internet to troll informational sites, all if we're halfway lucky.

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on February 04, 2012
at 05:45 AM

I agree with AnnaA and Eugenia comments about food quality and soil quality. I don't think many of us actually hunt and gather the food we actually eat. We live in a modern and go to the store and toss meat and produce into our shopping carts. The food quality is not the exactly same as our ancestors who ate fresh kill and ate produce picked off a vine or tree. The goal is to eat whole foods, but supplements are necessary to address specific deficiencies for some of us who ate the SAD for many years and are playing catchup to improve our health.

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