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Natural Calm alternative?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 14, 2011 at 1:14 PM

I currently take 2 teaspoons of Natural Calm before bed. I have no issues at all with it, except for one thing. Because I take it right before bed, I wake up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom and then have a hard time going back to sleep. Any suggestions (brands and titles please) for a replacement that doesn't require a lot of fluid to take?

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on March 11, 2011
at 10:42 PM

WHEW< Valerian ROOT seems to give me very vivid dreams....

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on February 15, 2011
at 10:10 AM

Hmmm. I figured the extra water did it, but I didn't think about a diuretic effect. I ordered some magnesium citramate capsules yesterday. I'll see how I do on those.

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on February 15, 2011
at 05:55 AM

Are you sure one causes the other? On the other hand, magnesium appears to be a diuretic. If that's the active ingredient that helps you sleep then others with magnesium might have the same effect.

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on February 15, 2011
at 05:54 AM

Are you sure one causes the other? On the other hand, [magnesium appears to be a diuretic.][1] [1]: http://www.google.com/search?q=magnesium+diuretic

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on February 14, 2011
at 02:52 PM

My problem isn't going to sleep, it's staying asleep so maybe the capsules are a better choice for me anyway.

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A18481e4b0edc283d5a84a2321001c79

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on February 14, 2011
at 10:34 PM

I use valerian root or melatonin to help me fall asleep and stay asleep. Its worked wonders for me!

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

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on March 11, 2011
at 10:42 PM

WHEW< Valerian ROOT seems to give me very vivid dreams....

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on February 14, 2011
at 10:09 PM

I have the same problem (waking up at night). When I take Natural Calm, I only use about 1/3 of a cup of water with 2 tsp of it. I don't think you need any more water then that.

The only problem I have is that NC does not help me sleep - I still wake up...

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on February 14, 2011
at 05:00 PM

I take 400mg of magnesium glycinate in tablet form before bed. http://www.carlsonlabs.com/p-54-chelated-magnesium.aspx

It's supposed to be absorbed better than Mag Citrate, and is less likely to stimulate your bowels.

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on February 14, 2011
at 09:54 PM

Could have sworn I answered this this morning.

I recently ordered a couple of containers of Natural Calm, but it pales in comparison to and standard ZMA supplement. Why? This is why:

  • Mg aspartate is very bioavilable; so is Mg citrate, so even here.
  • Zn monomethionine is involved in conversion of 5HTP to 5HT(serotonin)
  • Same as above for B6

Victor Conte pitched ZMA as a testosterone supplement from the start, and while the science behind that is weak at best, it's a phenomenal sleep supplement, and those two minerals are the most common deficiencies in athletes.

ZMA, by far, beats Natural Calm for efficacy, ease of use, and price.

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on February 14, 2011
at 02:36 PM

I take 2 160 mg capsules of Magnesium Citrate from LifeExtension (www.lef.org) before I go to bed with just a sip of water. It doesn't put me to sleep right away but my sleep is more refreshing that it had been before I took the magnesium.

209d2fc1f43df88348031c7c38077172

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on February 14, 2011
at 02:52 PM

My problem isn't going to sleep, it's staying asleep so maybe the capsules are a better choice for me anyway.

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on January 11, 2014
at 11:42 PM

Super late to this conversation but there is a non-oral way to get magnesium that I have started recently. Magnesium oil. There is this;

http://www.ancient-minerals.com/products/magnesium-oil/

But i use their other product;

http://www.ancient-minerals.com/products/magnesium-bath-salts/

to make my own "oil" I use 1 cup of flakes dissolved into 1 cup of boiled distilled water. WAAAYYY cheaper than buying the oil. Just google manesium oil and check out the above links FAQ page

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on January 07, 2014
at 02:17 AM

GHC Intracal is an encapsulated Calcium Magnesium supplement, so it will help you cut back on the nighttime fluid intake. It is a magnesium orate/calcium orate blend, so it is highly bioavailable and all-natural. It is one of Edward Group's formulations, so it is GMO-free, Gluten-Free, and made in the USA.

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on January 07, 2014
at 02:17 AM

GHC Intracal is an encapsulated Calcium Magnesium supplement, so it will help you cut back on the nighttime fluid intake. It is a magnesium orate/calcium orate blend, so it is highly bioavailable and all-natural. It is one of Edward Group's formulations, so it is GMO-free, Gluten-Free, and made in the USA.

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on November 27, 2013
at 05:11 PM

@Dale 1 @terrence There really is no reason to take magnesium in the evening, it is not a drug and is not time sensitive like a drug (despite what WebMD says). The body is used to getting its magnesium through its 3 meals a day i.e. spread out. The stress is on that one maintains healthy magnesium levels, not when one consumes it.

But if one is going to supplement with a liquid magnesium product, put it in a water bottle and sip it throughout the day, this spreads it out more evenly and allows potentially more to be absorbed through the walls of the small intestine into ones bloodstream and then it is utilized by the cells, bones, muscles, endocrine system and organs that depend upon it.

The pineal gland, located roughly in the center of the head, depends upon magnesium for its own production of melatonin. So a body that is quite deficient typically will produce and secrete less of this hormone, which in turn can negatively impact a person’s ability to switch off at night and fall asleep. Essentially you can only bake as much cake as you have flour for.

Of course the optic nerve, being connected to the pineal gland, signals the pineal gland to start producing melatonin once the sun goes down, also known as DLMO (dim light melatonin onset). It is the lack of light received by the retina which permits this melatonin production, conversely light, particularly blue light, suppresses its production. This explains the use of “blue blocking” glasses in the later hours of the day or blackout curtains by those who have difficulty falling asleep. But rather my point is, taking magnesium throughout the day, as one does already through ones foods, won't typically make a person tired as the pineal gland won't make melatonin during these hours.

@Mike @Korion Mike is certainly correct, magnesium aspartate, being a chelated form of magnesium is extremely absorbable, around the level of magnesium citrate. My only concern with that form and why I recommend it the least out of the other over 20 different forms of magnesium (despite its superior absorption) is the aspartic acid component that it is bonded to. Aspartic acid is the the key ingredient to the artificial sweetener aspartame and though it is the favored sweetener of body building supplements, it is frowned upon in the nutrition world and possibly for good reason.

There are two amino acids that when not bonded with other amino acids in formed proteins can roam free and are capable of over stimulating cells, including brain cells, all the way to cell death. Excitotoxic is the term that labels substances with this capability. Aspartic acid is excitotoxic as is glutamic acid (a component in MSG). May I suggest possibly trying magnesium taurate or magnesium glycinate instead if one doesn't wish to use a magnesium citrate product?

Taurine helps keep potassium and magnesium inside a cell, while keeping excessive sodium out. So is great for not taking on water weight and for the recovery of muscles. Taurine is also essential for cardiovascular function, counters high blood pressure and is responsible for the development of muscle tissues and for optical health and the function of the central nervous system. In the other form, Glycine has been shown to reduce fatigue and improve sleep quality.

I thought I would mention this in case it was helpful.

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on February 14, 2011
at 03:37 PM

you can mix herbs. if you mix more than three you get o strong remedy

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on February 14, 2011
at 02:54 PM

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on February 14, 2011
at 02:24 PM

Any brand of magnesium oxide works fine for me. I take a 500 mg tablet with a small amount of water at night. Everyone says that the absorption is not as good as other forms of magnesium; maybe so, but I suffer no lack of effectiveness for this consideration. In addition to being equally effective for me, it is also ridiculously cheap.

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on February 14, 2011
at 02:07 PM

I recently got my first container of Natural Calm and I think I prefer my old caplets- I used to always take 400 mg of Blue Bonnet Magnesium Citrate before bed. I don't like drinking a big glass of anything before bedtime, and the pill form seemed just as effective IMO.

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