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zero vegetable/grain diet - calcium/mag ratio

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 10, 2011 at 12:19 AM

other than 15 grams of fresh parsley a day (to prevent scurvy, hopefully that's enough), i don't eat any vegetables nor grains. also about 4 tsp of turmeric powder.

i drink 500ml of homemade kefir everyday, so no lactose but 60% RDA of calcium and may be 15% magnesium. and the rest of the day it's all meat and lard and the % of magnesium for the ENTIRE day at the end is about 30% RDA.

is a bad ratio? anyone eating zero veggie/grain have figured out their calcium vs mag intake? supplement necessary?

and i'm looking into eating egg shells and seems like that would make my ratio worse??

9dd4d453f7ebd7fd2a82814d08fc8f17

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on February 10, 2012
at 01:27 AM

i am finding that out - zero carb for 3.5 months :)

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on February 09, 2012
at 11:59 PM

You won't get scurvy if you eat meat. You only get scurvy if your diet is nothing but breads and sugars.

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

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on January 28, 2012
at 07:12 PM

Stefansson ate organs, be sure to include liver and kindeys, as these are the most nutritious organs. For more info see: http://bit.ly/Av0KHi (principles), and http://bit.ly/yq4GY3 (example diet).

9dd4d453f7ebd7fd2a82814d08fc8f17

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on January 27, 2012
at 04:32 PM

i had since this question read up on stefansson and i've been eating just meat/lard for a few months now. (no kefir as well so no carbs from that as well) don't have scurvy :)

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on January 26, 2012
at 11:06 PM

What are the actual milligrams of calcium and magnesium you're eating (rather than the %RDA)?

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on January 06, 2012
at 10:49 PM

Magnesium is hard to get anyway as the soils are depleted from over-farming.

9dd4d453f7ebd7fd2a82814d08fc8f17

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on October 10, 2011
at 02:00 PM

nope, i'm a newbie here :)

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on October 10, 2011
at 01:16 AM

Is this personman?

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B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on January 26, 2012
at 11:07 PM

Read up of Stefansson, you need much less vitamin C on a low/zero carb diet so the parsley might not be needed. 15g fresh parsley has 20mg vit C btw, which is enough to stop survey.

Eggshells are not a good source of magnesium. Bones have some magnesium in addition to their calcium, as magnesium is stored in the bones; so bone broth has magnesium and calcium (and everything else for building strong bones). But the soils are depleted from over-farming, so there is very little magnesium in the soil now. This means that food, plant or animal, will also be low in magnesium. Most people are very deficient in magnesium too, so supplementation is often needed. citrate absorbs the best, ~300mg a day is a good amount most people take.

9dd4d453f7ebd7fd2a82814d08fc8f17

(581)

on January 27, 2012
at 04:32 PM

i had since this question read up on stefansson and i've been eating just meat/lard for a few months now. (no kefir as well so no carbs from that as well) don't have scurvy :)

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on January 28, 2012
at 07:12 PM

Stefansson ate organs, be sure to include liver and kindeys, as these are the most nutritious organs. For more info see: http://bit.ly/Av0KHi (principles), and http://bit.ly/yq4GY3 (example diet).

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on February 10, 2012
at 12:01 AM

You need to supplement mag for sure.

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on January 20, 2013
at 07:58 PM

I'm on a similar diet of meat, lard, and a few cups of spring mix. Finding the right ratio was quite a struggle, but the best advice I'd give is to start supplementing with magnesium glycinate and no other form which may induce diarrhea or throw your electrolyte levels off balance (citrate,oxide,etc) And I've had the best experience with pure calcium citrate (Thorne brand is the cleanest I've found).

I'm currently taking 150-200mg magnesium glycinate and 400-600mg calcium citrate in a day, divided in 4 doses.

Cronometer says I average around 180mg calcium and 125mg magnesium based on a typical day of ground beef/lamb plus spring mix or arugula.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on December 29, 2011
at 07:32 PM

You could supplement magnesium, citrate absorbs the best. What are the actual milligrams of calcium and magnesium you're eating (rather than the %RDA)?

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on January 06, 2012
at 10:49 PM

Magnesium is hard to get anyway as the soils are depleted from over-farming.

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