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What can we learn from sumo wrestlers?

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Created March 23, 2011 at 7:29 AM

Why are sumo wrestlers so big? What do they do to get like this? And what can we, and even more, non-paleo people learn from that?

Thanks!

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

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on November 13, 2011
at 12:46 AM

Paleo2.0, you seem to misunderstand....... quantum resonances..... leptin receptors..... oh god they're catching on, what do I tell them?... you're not my patient, I'm not going to give you free advice.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on November 13, 2011
at 12:36 AM

I agree that 3500 kcal seems really low for someone that size. People suck at counting calories though... You can put 3500 kcal away in a single meal: and it's called thanksgiving.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on November 13, 2011
at 12:34 AM

Funny how when you eat a lot of food, you digest a lot of food, you absorb a lot of food, and you store a lot of fat. Hey look, I explained fat gain without electrons, or leptin. Occam's razor win. Funny nobody has used the leptin reset to achieve the lower extremes of bodyfat. Coincidence, I think not.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on November 12, 2011
at 11:51 PM

That's easy. 1000kcal is less than a third of a small ice cream cake. See Coldstone's "Cheesecake Named Desire" for more information...http://www.coldstonecreamery.com/assets/pdf/nutrition/Nutritional_Info_Cakes_03_25_10.pdf

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on November 12, 2011
at 11:26 PM

Maybe if that cake is about 1000kcal.

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

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on November 12, 2011
at 11:11 PM

they eat this huge stew of almost half fat, half carbs. so low protein (relative to calories), high fat/carb meals (aka the composition of snack food) which don't trigger much satiety makes it easy for them to purposefully overeat. none of them could do this with eggs

7d64d3988de1b0e493aacf37843c5596

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on November 12, 2011
at 11:04 PM

And we learn that you cannot mention leptin (or electrons) once and still be “spot on” in Quilt’s ever changing reality distortion field…

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on November 12, 2011
at 11:03 PM

So what can we learn from sumo wrestlers? According to this post, we can learn to be truthful in accounting for what we eat. If the sumo wrestler in question ate just one additional ice cream cake per day, that would put him at his listed weight. That's all it takes.

Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on November 12, 2011
at 11:00 PM

http://www.blogitjapan.com/sumo-wrestler-food/ AND http://web-japan.org/kidsweb/virtual/sumo/sumo04.html

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

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on November 12, 2011
at 04:23 PM

Really LB? Are you telling me that if I eat 10,000 calories worth of fat every day I'm going to put on weight?? 'Tis madness, madness I tell you.

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

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on November 12, 2011
at 04:21 PM

Btw Kitavan, Kitavan, Kitavan, Kitvan.

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

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on November 12, 2011
at 04:20 PM

Do we? I thought we learn that if you stuff yourself silly with high caloric food all day and night you are probably going to put on some weight. No?

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

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on November 12, 2011
at 04:16 PM

@Quilt, oh yeah, I was thinking exactly the same. *cough* wtf *cough*

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

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on November 12, 2011
at 03:01 PM

2nd Rex. The behavior in which they purposefully engage to purposefully gain weight actually shows nothing more than support for calories, calories out. But even then, it's so extreme that we need not extrapolate anything from it to apply to more reasonable eating.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on November 12, 2011
at 02:30 PM

Yeah. Electrons don't weigh very much. Higgs Bosons weigh a LOT more. Everybody knows this.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on November 12, 2011
at 06:20 AM

Spot on Travis. Rumor has it that CERN is sending two sumo wrestlers at high speeds around an elliptical track, and when they collide, the Higgs boson will finally show up. I think we can learn a lot from that.

25b139cc1954456d9ea469e40f984cd3

on November 12, 2011
at 06:16 AM

You mean out of competition? Poor guys. Get them some D3, Test, Deca and HGH!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on November 12, 2011
at 05:10 AM

do you know that sumo wrestlers have extremely high incidence of bone fractures.....on par with that of post menopausal asian women.

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on November 12, 2011
at 04:17 AM

Pretty sure sumo wrestlers mostly eat tau neutrinos.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on November 12, 2011
at 03:29 AM

Nothing is safe in ridiculous quantities. Sumo wrestlers are so far outside the range of normal eating experience, even for SAD dieters.

66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

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on November 12, 2011
at 03:21 AM

OVEREATING ANYTHING leads to huge gains.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on November 12, 2011
at 02:48 AM

and yes there probably are other ways to get large...but what is the recognized easiest way?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:47 AM

well it does tell us that to get a man fat you feed them a whole lot of.................

7d64d3988de1b0e493aacf37843c5596

(2861)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:31 AM

Insulin is not causing them to overeat. There is no reverse direction of thermodynamic causality here. They are force-feeding a buttload of "calories in".

7d64d3988de1b0e493aacf37843c5596

(2861)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:20 AM

I think the electrons might overkill when looking at the 20,000 calories.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on November 12, 2011
at 02:18 AM

bingo..........

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on November 12, 2011
at 02:17 AM

funny how three of those things transfer electrons that increase ROS at the inner mitochondrial membrane huh? Coincidence? I think not.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on November 12, 2011
at 02:16 AM

They like safe starches?

F910318b9aa27b91bcf7881f39b9eabe

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on March 23, 2011
at 12:10 PM

The effects of insulin on body composition i assume :)

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on March 23, 2011
at 10:33 AM

Spot on about what?

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95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on November 12, 2011
at 03:12 AM

We learn that if you stuff a human as you would a goose or duck slated for foie gras, then NAFLD and the other elements of metabolic syndrome are imminent. (cf. Schiff's Diseases of the Liver, Vol 1).

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9f9fa49265e03ddd2bf2bba5477a556b

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on March 23, 2011
at 08:13 AM

Umm, if you eat like 20,000 calories a day of chankonabe, beer and white rice, you will get really fat even if you work out a lot. That is what we can learn from sumo wrestlers. And that cuts 20 odd years off your lifespan.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:30 PM

Yeah. Electrons don't weigh very much. Higgs Bosons weigh a LOT more. Everybody knows this.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on November 12, 2011
at 04:17 AM

Pretty sure sumo wrestlers mostly eat tau neutrinos.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:17 AM

funny how three of those things transfer electrons that increase ROS at the inner mitochondrial membrane huh? Coincidence? I think not.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on November 12, 2011
at 06:20 AM

Spot on Travis. Rumor has it that CERN is sending two sumo wrestlers at high speeds around an elliptical track, and when they collide, the Higgs boson will finally show up. I think we can learn a lot from that.

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on November 12, 2011
at 04:16 PM

@Quilt, oh yeah, I was thinking exactly the same. *cough* wtf *cough*

7d64d3988de1b0e493aacf37843c5596

(2861)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:20 AM

I think the electrons might overkill when looking at the 20,000 calories.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on November 13, 2011
at 12:34 AM

Funny how when you eat a lot of food, you digest a lot of food, you absorb a lot of food, and you store a lot of fat. Hey look, I explained fat gain without electrons, or leptin. Occam's razor win. Funny nobody has used the leptin reset to achieve the lower extremes of bodyfat. Coincidence, I think not.

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7d64d3988de1b0e493aacf37843c5596

(2861)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:27 AM

I am skeptical that intentional overfeeding tells us much about why people become obese. Many people say the real question is "why" do people overeat. There is no such question with sumo wrestlers.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:47 AM

well it does tell us that to get a man fat you feed them a whole lot of.................

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:48 AM

and yes there probably are other ways to get large...but what is the recognized easiest way?

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on November 12, 2011
at 10:58 PM

According to "What I Eat" by Menzel and D'Alusio (pretty good book btw), the sumo wrestler they encountered (6'2" 400lbs) ate 3500 calories a day.

They list his meals as follows:

Lunch: fried chicken 6.2 oz, chanko nabe stew with pork (2) 1.7 lb, vegetable tempura 2.7 oz, cabbage, egg, and stewed chicken 4.5oz, white rice 14.3oz

Dinner: grilled mackerel 3.5oz, scrambled egg with chives 2.3 oz, tuna, somen noodles, cucumber, onion in broth 1lb, white radish and chicken in broth 7.6oz, miso soup with chives 10.9oz, white rice 15.1oz, white radish 1.8oz, pickled cucumber 1.3oz

Throughout the day: bottled coffee 1.3qt, barley tea 2.1qt, bottled water 1.6gal

Doesn't really make sense to me given how active they are, but that's what they said. I would wager that some calories were unaccounted for or that the observation affected the reported amounts or something.

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(39831)

on November 12, 2011
at 11:26 PM

Maybe if that cake is about 1000kcal.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on November 13, 2011
at 12:36 AM

I agree that 3500 kcal seems really low for someone that size. People suck at counting calories though... You can put 3500 kcal away in a single meal: and it's called thanksgiving.

Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on November 12, 2011
at 11:00 PM

http://www.blogitjapan.com/sumo-wrestler-food/ AND http://web-japan.org/kidsweb/virtual/sumo/sumo04.html

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on November 12, 2011
at 11:51 PM

That's easy. 1000kcal is less than a third of a small ice cream cake. See Coldstone's "Cheesecake Named Desire" for more information...http://www.coldstonecreamery.com/assets/pdf/nutrition/Nutritional_Info_Cakes_03_25_10.pdf

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on November 12, 2011
at 11:03 PM

So what can we learn from sumo wrestlers? According to this post, we can learn to be truthful in accounting for what we eat. If the sumo wrestler in question ate just one additional ice cream cake per day, that would put him at his listed weight. That's all it takes.

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Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on November 12, 2011
at 10:40 PM

We learn that that adult diaper thing they wear is somewhat gross and probably not a keepsake that a sumo fan would want.

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on November 12, 2011
at 06:44 AM

What we can learn is to plant our feet squarely and stomp. Seriously: I never see this without feeling their grounding, resoundingly, in my very being.

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25b139cc1954456d9ea469e40f984cd3

on November 12, 2011
at 03:52 AM

Japan = a very strange culture. On the one hand, they are early adapters and promoters of technology and are extremely successful traders. On the other hand, Sumos, in 2011, do not train with weights, avail themselves of modern PEDs, nutrition, supplements, compete with non-Japanese, etc.

25b139cc1954456d9ea469e40f984cd3

on November 12, 2011
at 06:16 AM

You mean out of competition? Poor guys. Get them some D3, Test, Deca and HGH!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on November 12, 2011
at 05:10 AM

do you know that sumo wrestlers have extremely high incidence of bone fractures.....on par with that of post menopausal asian women.

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:13 AM

Safe starches still can equate to HUGE gains!

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on November 12, 2011
at 04:23 PM

Really LB? Are you telling me that if I eat 10,000 calories worth of fat every day I'm going to put on weight?? 'Tis madness, madness I tell you.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:18 AM

bingo..........

66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

(12407)

on November 12, 2011
at 03:21 AM

OVEREATING ANYTHING leads to huge gains.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on March 23, 2011
at 09:38 AM

We learn Gary Taubes was spot on

F910318b9aa27b91bcf7881f39b9eabe

(1164)

on March 23, 2011
at 12:10 PM

The effects of insulin on body composition i assume :)

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on March 23, 2011
at 10:33 AM

Spot on about what?

7d64d3988de1b0e493aacf37843c5596

(2861)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:31 AM

Insulin is not causing them to overeat. There is no reverse direction of thermodynamic causality here. They are force-feeding a buttload of "calories in".

7d64d3988de1b0e493aacf37843c5596

(2861)

on November 12, 2011
at 11:04 PM

And we learn that you cannot mention leptin (or electrons) once and still be “spot on” in Quilt’s ever changing reality distortion field…

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on November 12, 2011
at 04:20 PM

Do we? I thought we learn that if you stuff yourself silly with high caloric food all day and night you are probably going to put on some weight. No?

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on November 13, 2011
at 12:46 AM

Paleo2.0, you seem to misunderstand....... quantum resonances..... leptin receptors..... oh god they're catching on, what do I tell them?... you're not my patient, I'm not going to give you free advice.

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on November 12, 2011
at 04:21 PM

Btw Kitavan, Kitavan, Kitavan, Kitvan.

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