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What??? Sugar is bad for you?

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Created February 02, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Saw this on TV this morning and then on Yahoo:

http://news.yahoo.com/sugar-regulated-toxin-researchers-180605186.html

They are making the case that sugar is toxic and should be regulated. I'm just happy to see that this even made a splash. Could things be changing?

In other Yahoo news, Gwyneth Paltrow says she is reducing inflammation by cutting out wheat, dairy and sugar. I kinda think that this is how the message plays best to the mainstream - as a way to reduce inflammation.

http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/balancedliving/gwyneth-paltrow-perfect-152919021.html

Discuss.

33ff1847bdaeceabe95f0735c3c40694

on February 12, 2012
at 04:34 PM

Talldog - you're right about that. most people really DON'T know that all carbohydrates will end up as glucose in the blood - one way or another. bread is definitely one of those things that confuses the average person to no end...whole grain?! whole wheat!? high fiber!? etc etc. it never stops.

76d70438d2442d21206b8e5528d23d23

(1098)

on February 04, 2012
at 04:13 PM

Thanks, Dave! I can look up the link from that, then decide which of my social circles get treated to which shares!

11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

(3448)

on February 03, 2012
at 06:34 PM

What's always missing in discussions of sugar is bread. Everyone knows sugar is bad for you, but how many people realize that "complex carbs" just end up as sugar in your bloodstream. How many people have been good and forgone the jelly and eaten plain whole-wheat bagel, not realizing that, after it's digested, the bagel converts to more blood sugar than the jelly would have?

11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

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on February 03, 2012
at 06:29 PM

I don't like the idea of the govt. using the tax system to micro-manage our lives (even if it's for our own good). Actually, I don't like them micromanaging our lives in any way, because they usually get it wrong. Heck, if "the government experts" had their way we'd all be on stain drugs for our own good.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on February 03, 2012
at 12:38 PM

Excess is individually defined, how's that for inconvenient?

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on February 03, 2012
at 04:02 AM

Watching TV is too taxing for me. The last thing I watched was part of a playoff game between two teams I didn't care about.

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on February 03, 2012
at 03:50 AM

Saying sugar is bad for you is about as conventional as wisdom gets. So why will anyone pay attention this time?

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 03, 2012
at 02:24 AM

They do tax gasoline.

361e96d70d6d3b91d63f6ad975e60ab6

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on February 03, 2012
at 01:16 AM

Heard this on the tv and started laughing!

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on February 03, 2012
at 12:16 AM

It was on the morning news - Washington DC, NBC channel 4. And they made a big deal about it. They had a teaser, cut to commercial and about 30 seconds on the story.

46bee6b93ee79082ea1094f26c2da5a4

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on February 02, 2012
at 08:28 PM

Much better reporting and "expert" in the afternoon, phew, glad they're referencing his quotes rather than the idiot from this morning.

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on February 02, 2012
at 06:46 PM

I like the idea of taxing sugar too, but I see it being problematic in that these ridiculously rich companies would hire some scientist to create a sugar substitute and then get off because "it's not sugar" but be worse than the real thing! Ish...

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on February 02, 2012
at 06:23 PM

Then the key would actually be defining "excess". For me a non-essential element for health could be called "excess" at a very low level. But, I am speaking in terms of added sugar in the SAD diet, not the paleo approved whole food sources.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on February 02, 2012
at 06:19 PM

Yeah, we already have too much sin tax as is....not to mention other useless prohibitions that is costing millions.

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on February 02, 2012
at 05:10 PM

It'll never happen. They can't even tax gasoline in the US and it's a no-brainer.

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on February 02, 2012
at 05:06 PM

taxing behavior= very bad legislating behavior very bad,do you want a tax man looking into your shopping cart?

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

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on February 02, 2012
at 04:09 PM

Jim - I'd have given you more than just +1 on this if I could have. Totally agree about keeping government as far away from ANYONE'S food choices as possible being better for ALL of us.

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on February 02, 2012
at 04:04 PM

Anyone ever read the "Tipping Point?" Even today I told the cafe I was off bread and they said a few people in the last few months have given up bread due to gluten.

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on February 02, 2012
at 04:02 PM

Anyone ever read the tipping point? Even today I told the cafe I was off bread and they said a few people in the last few months have given up bread due to gluten.

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on February 02, 2012
at 03:22 PM

That Paltrow article was really stupid. The writer seems to have a major bias against her, seemingly for no reason. It is obvious that everything she is doing is working for her. I believe the author is a twit.

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on February 02, 2012
at 01:52 PM

Could things be changing? I thought most nutritionists amd just about everybody have always recommended against excess sugar. I don't know how helpful it is though to always be looking for the demon du jour.

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Acc38052c1efe7fc4338dc55f2428bfe

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on February 02, 2012
at 03:39 PM

Taxing saturated fat = bad!

Taxing sugar = good!

Wait, what?

Perhaps we shouldn't have professors and politicians making our personal decisions regarding nutrition for us.

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

(1638)

on February 02, 2012
at 04:09 PM

Jim - I'd have given you more than just +1 on this if I could have. Totally agree about keeping government as far away from ANYONE'S food choices as possible being better for ALL of us.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 02, 2012
at 06:19 PM

Yeah, we already have too much sin tax as is....not to mention other useless prohibitions that is costing millions.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on February 03, 2012
at 04:02 AM

Watching TV is too taxing for me. The last thing I watched was part of a playoff game between two teams I didn't care about.

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

(3125)

on February 02, 2012
at 05:06 PM

taxing behavior= very bad legislating behavior very bad,do you want a tax man looking into your shopping cart?

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 03, 2012
at 02:24 AM

They do tax gasoline.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

(5043)

on February 02, 2012
at 05:10 PM

It'll never happen. They can't even tax gasoline in the US and it's a no-brainer.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on February 02, 2012
at 02:24 PM

You're missing a key word: excess sugar is bad for you.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on February 03, 2012
at 12:38 PM

Excess is individually defined, how's that for inconvenient?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 02, 2012
at 06:23 PM

Then the key would actually be defining "excess". For me a non-essential element for health could be called "excess" at a very low level. But, I am speaking in terms of added sugar in the SAD diet, not the paleo approved whole food sources.

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76d70438d2442d21206b8e5528d23d23

on February 02, 2012
at 02:13 PM

Great catch on the "Sugar is toxic" article. Where did you see it on TV? (Was it that CBC that Missi mentions?)

My one concern here is that Lustig is one of the authors on the original article, and he can sometimes let his enthusiasm for his own ideas begin to sound like evangelism. When scientists start doing that, they're in danger of letting their emotions sway their science--and may have already done so. We don't need another Ansel Keyes, no matter whose "side" they're on!)

Other than that, though, I'm also very glad to see the basic info getting mainstream coverage. Any noise that can be made will get at least a few more people to thinking.

Re: the other link, I'm not sure Gwyneth Paltrow is the best way to sell anything, whether she's discussing inflammation or not. ("I'll wake up exhausted; I can feel my adrenal cortex being really high." She's coming across sounding kinda flakey here, IMHO.)

As to inflammation being the best way to tout healthy eating, I don't think there's one true way. I think any fact-based information that applies should be repeated regularly so that people have a better chance of finding it. Some people are worried about their weight, some about their heart, etc etc etc. Give the info different "hooks" for different "markets," so that people can find it and make good choices.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on February 03, 2012
at 12:16 AM

It was on the morning news - Washington DC, NBC channel 4. And they made a big deal about it. They had a teaser, cut to commercial and about 30 seconds on the story.

76d70438d2442d21206b8e5528d23d23

(1098)

on February 04, 2012
at 04:13 PM

Thanks, Dave! I can look up the link from that, then decide which of my social circles get treated to which shares!

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 02, 2012
at 04:17 PM

I see a whole new inventory of "reduced" or "no" sugar processed product labels. The only question is, will they leave "gluten free" on the label or will it get crowded out?

I've seen many generations of junkier and junkier products marketed as a solution for the problem currently in the media. I still think this is one where the people will have to lead the government and the marketplace by voting with their dollars and refusing to buy highly processed products.

Will it happen? How long will it take? I don't know.

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on February 02, 2012
at 02:10 PM

This is probably the way to do it...slowly but surely, and celebrity-infused. It's sad that many people are forced to not think for themselves or are just flat out unaware, and many are afraid to just TRY to be unconventional. The shock on most people when I mention intermittent fasting, or the amount of people who haven't gone a day without food...or even just sugar!...is shocking.

I believe it's happening...one day at a time. Stuff like this makes you thankful to be aware and in this kind of community.

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46bee6b93ee79082ea1094f26c2da5a4

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on February 02, 2012
at 02:02 PM

Ugh, I just watched this on the CBC national news and they interviewed a Dr. about it, and he was obviously not supporting the research and blatently eshewing it even though the reporter kept prompting otherwise towards the research. Wish she would have interviewed a different expert, one that knows better, or not interview anyone at all and just reported the research. I was all excited to show the "sugar is bad" report to my husband and say see? I told you! Now it would be useless, this Dr. ruined it. He even went so far as to say that sugar makes you feel good and happy and can help you get through your day! OMG!

But Yeah, I'm happy it's making a splash too... about time!

46bee6b93ee79082ea1094f26c2da5a4

(837)

on February 02, 2012
at 08:28 PM

Much better reporting and "expert" in the afternoon, phew, glad they're referencing his quotes rather than the idiot from this morning.

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33ff1847bdaeceabe95f0735c3c40694

on February 02, 2012
at 02:00 PM

the majority of the population know that added sugar and HFCS are bad for you...they just don't know HOW bad. the great thing about this article is it shows that the focus on the root of disease and chronic health problems of our society are pulling AWAY from saturated fat and focusing more on sugar..

my favorite part of the article was the recommendation to tax sugar for companies so they have an incentive to add less of it to their products. it's not perfect but it would be a great start.

thanks for posting the link to this!

778b36f4f699f202de135ef176fe9ab7

(1123)

on February 02, 2012
at 06:46 PM

I like the idea of taxing sugar too, but I see it being problematic in that these ridiculously rich companies would hire some scientist to create a sugar substitute and then get off because "it's not sugar" but be worse than the real thing! Ish...

11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

(3448)

on February 03, 2012
at 06:29 PM

I don't like the idea of the govt. using the tax system to micro-manage our lives (even if it's for our own good). Actually, I don't like them micromanaging our lives in any way, because they usually get it wrong. Heck, if "the government experts" had their way we'd all be on stain drugs for our own good.

11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

(3448)

on February 03, 2012
at 06:34 PM

What's always missing in discussions of sugar is bread. Everyone knows sugar is bad for you, but how many people realize that "complex carbs" just end up as sugar in your bloodstream. How many people have been good and forgone the jelly and eaten plain whole-wheat bagel, not realizing that, after it's digested, the bagel converts to more blood sugar than the jelly would have?

33ff1847bdaeceabe95f0735c3c40694

on February 12, 2012
at 04:34 PM

Talldog - you're right about that. most people really DON'T know that all carbohydrates will end up as glucose in the blood - one way or another. bread is definitely one of those things that confuses the average person to no end...whole grain?! whole wheat!? high fiber!? etc etc. it never stops.

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on February 09, 2012
at 09:36 PM

Here'a new Nightline video about juicing up pageant kids on sugar and caffeine before performances. A bit hard to watch, but they seem to take a critical stance on this mom's behavior.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bKWVRuCMMA&feature=relmfu

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