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Joint Pain with Sugar

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 13, 2011 at 12:47 AM

Just wondering if I was the only one who had this problem, my joints ache when I cheat with sugar. I am not sure why. Any theories?

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 20, 2011
at 01:35 AM

Well I had corn and fried food and it seemed to just be too much sugar. Weird that it effects me so strongly.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on June 15, 2011
at 05:59 AM

Congratulations, Marcus, that's really inspiring. And someday, doctors will catch up with their (smarter) patients.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 14, 2011
at 02:25 PM

Hey, no problem. A downvote never killed anybody :)

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on June 13, 2011
at 06:34 PM

Thomas, FWIW, I don't think you should have been down-voted either. It's as good a theory as any, in the absence of hard data.

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 13, 2011
at 05:38 PM

Sorry about that Thomas, I did what I could to correct it. I think mind-body issues are always a possibility and that mean nocebo effects are something we have to watch out for.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 13, 2011
at 04:28 PM

Wonder why I got downvoted. After all, Vrimj asked for theories (not certainties), and, right or wrong, I gave him mine. Interesting!

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:23 PM

@vrimj - watch your omegas on cheat days - maybe you'll be able to pull 'em off. For me, too much O-6, even without sugar or gluten can be practically immobilizing.

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:23 PM

@vrimj - watch your omegas on cheat days - maybe you'll be able to pull 'em off. For me, too much O-6, even without sugar or gluten can be practically immobilizing me!

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:21 PM

@vrimj - watch your omegas on cheat days - maybe you'll be able to pull 'em off. for me, too much O-6, even without sugar or gluten can practically immobilize me!

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:17 PM

I wanted to add that I like the link! The graphic was easy to follow and the paper included as a reference was one of the clearest things I have ever read on the issue of metabolic syndrome!

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:16 PM

yeah, mighta been the corn chips! i have to be pretty vigilant with with fried stuff... y'know, the oils and all. :/

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:10 PM

That is a fair thing to guess. My other guess as to mechanism is that my family has a strong history of body pain with depression so it is totally possible that the eventual sugar is causing some depression which I am feeling as joint pain.

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:08 PM

I ate ice cream. The other stuff is pretty much daily fare- cream eggs and coco powder. Thus my guess that it was the sucrose. But it could have also been the corn chips... I guess I will try just corn next week and see if I hurt a LOT 24 hours later.

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:06 PM

I can't do artificial sweeteners at all - sometimes its headaches but mostly it is that they taste terrible to me.

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:06 PM

Hum, I don't do wheat at all, but I did have corn as well as sugar, and the pain was about 24 hours later, second week in a row that has happened. I cheat Saturday and Sunday everything hurts!

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

(15833)

on June 13, 2011
at 02:42 PM

Lots of evidence that sugar causes inflammation and thus joint pain, sorry.

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on June 13, 2011
at 01:44 PM

I have the same symptoms as you after eating bread (wheat) and sugar.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:44 AM

I agree that it's probably inflammation. My RA joint pain improved so much going from VLC to ZC (and didn't improve at all on VLC from the SAD), that I had to start looking for other explanations besides just "carbs," and I'm really thinking inflammation is the bottom line. Furthermore, I think different substances are going to be inflammatory in different people, rather like allergens. There'll be some common ones, but probably few universals, and many oddballs. Sugar's probably a fairly common one. All of this is just armchair theorizing on my part, but it's what I'm running with these days.

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559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on June 13, 2011
at 02:32 PM

This happens to me too, tho i can't say i'm absolutely sure it's the sugar, it may be the medium (i never eat straight sugar, natch). I do reckon it's an inflammatory response, as others have mentioned. I wonder about the mechanism, and if it depends on the sugar type, i.e. fructose vs glucose. I currently avoid sugar, even fruit. sigh.

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:16 PM

yeah, mighta been the corn chips! i have to be pretty vigilant with with fried stuff... y'know, the oils and all. :/

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:08 PM

I ate ice cream. The other stuff is pretty much daily fare- cream eggs and coco powder. Thus my guess that it was the sucrose. But it could have also been the corn chips... I guess I will try just corn next week and see if I hurt a LOT 24 hours later.

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 20, 2011
at 01:35 AM

Well I had corn and fried food and it seemed to just be too much sugar. Weird that it effects me so strongly.

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F6ea948ab43dc51d72509c0989e670fe

(1639)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:04 AM

It sounds like it's inflammation. I don't have it happen with sugar, but it does happen when I eat wheat. Even just a slice of pizza and all of my gluten symptoms (and related pain in the joints) come back.

I know that improper omega 6/3 ratios cause inflammation, as well as obesity, certain foods (allergies) or just stuff that your body doesn't like. Which can cause pain in joints, and other issues that you might not even pay attention to. All of my allergies/stuffed up throat went away by getting rid of the grains and sugar.

Chris Kresser goes into inflammation here...and the end result: http://thehealthyskeptic.org/the-autoimmune-inflammatory-model-of-diabesity

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:17 PM

I wanted to add that I like the link! The graphic was easy to follow and the paper included as a reference was one of the clearest things I have ever read on the issue of metabolic syndrome!

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:44 AM

I agree that it's probably inflammation. My RA joint pain improved so much going from VLC to ZC (and didn't improve at all on VLC from the SAD), that I had to start looking for other explanations besides just "carbs," and I'm really thinking inflammation is the bottom line. Furthermore, I think different substances are going to be inflammatory in different people, rather like allergens. There'll be some common ones, but probably few universals, and many oddballs. Sugar's probably a fairly common one. All of this is just armchair theorizing on my part, but it's what I'm running with these days.

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:06 PM

Hum, I don't do wheat at all, but I did have corn as well as sugar, and the pain was about 24 hours later, second week in a row that has happened. I cheat Saturday and Sunday everything hurts!

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:21 PM

@vrimj - watch your omegas on cheat days - maybe you'll be able to pull 'em off. for me, too much O-6, even without sugar or gluten can practically immobilize me!

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:23 PM

@vrimj - watch your omegas on cheat days - maybe you'll be able to pull 'em off. For me, too much O-6, even without sugar or gluten can be practically immobilizing me!

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:23 PM

@vrimj - watch your omegas on cheat days - maybe you'll be able to pull 'em off. For me, too much O-6, even without sugar or gluten can be practically immobilizing.

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Dd4b97898c31b97dc8c9be76a99b0c5a

on June 14, 2011
at 08:47 PM

I have terrible arthritis in my neck which causes quite debilitating headaches. A few weeks ago I decided to give up wheat, coffee, sugar and dairy in an effort to detox and lose weight. The weight has dropped off with remarkable speed however as a consequence I am simply amazed at the reduction in neck pain and I haven't had a single headache for over 3 weeks (they used to be a daily occurrence). So with regard to the placebo effect I think I can say that my new found health is down to my dietary changes and not placebo as I hadn't even considered the pain aspect when I went on the diet. What disturbs me is that for years I have been under Drs such as Neurologists and Orthopaedic specialists and tried a number of different meds (some of which caused awful side effects!) but not once has a Dr suggested I give up sugar, wheat etc. That could have saved me years of pain.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on June 15, 2011
at 05:59 AM

Congratulations, Marcus, that's really inspiring. And someday, doctors will catch up with their (smarter) patients.

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Af9537cfa50562b67979624e9007e12a

(1334)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:53 AM

My wife and I both notice joint pain related to eating bread, however, sugar (and fake sweeteners) mainly give us headaches.

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:06 PM

I can't do artificial sweeteners at all - sometimes its headaches but mostly it is that they taste terrible to me.

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on June 13, 2011
at 01:44 PM

I have the same symptoms as you after eating bread (wheat) and sugar.

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D8195c5ae6c967027a3133d74969d0e1

on June 14, 2011
at 01:34 PM

I had such pain for so long - went on disability - I occasionally have about 1/2 tsp honey on top of fruit w coconut milk for dessert - about twice a wk - seems I can tolerate it - as for sugar - NEVER!!!!!! I do have an 85-90% dark choc bar once a wk - but as for the sweets - I don't want to go back!!! I don't have the urge to do so either - somehow I'll opt for a tsp of almond butter, or 1/2 avocado to snack on instead!! (and I was a choc haagendaaz fanatic!!)

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4a40c86e2794dea9cf7695254e7c72ef

on March 30, 2014
at 02:11 AM

It's defiantly not in your head! I gave up sugar because I would feel like I'm getting the flu or a head cold it was easy for me to cut it out because I would look at something I use to love eating and my body would just ache. I know it wasn't gluten because I still at rolls and bread. I would defiantly cut it out you'll feel amazing. Good Luck!

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0f8f77156cd0667d43194fc4b8bc3b5d

on September 18, 2013
at 06:01 AM

I get joint pain from dairy and gluten (sugar = brain fog but not joint pain), and for whatever reason, ice cream can cause the worst reaction.

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3ab4795353db623013212bde52f9cff6

on September 16, 2013
at 09:25 PM

Two years later, but whatever... I have the same reaction. My joints ache and I have to constantly stretch them to try to alleviate some of the pain. I've been searching the internet for some answers and I have no idea what this could be. I've been struggling with this for almost two years and the joint pain just seems to get worse. Have you found any answers? It'd be of great help to hear if you did. I don't think this is something in my head because well, I love fruits and have nothing against them...I'd love to enjoy fruit without worrying about being in excruciating pain that night.

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3ab4795353db623013212bde52f9cff6

on September 16, 2013
at 09:25 PM

Two years later, but whatever... I have the same reaction. My joints ache and I have to constantly stretch them to try to alleviate some of the pain. I've been searching the internet for some answers and I have no idea what this could be. I've been struggling with this for almost two years and the joint pain just seems to get worse. Have you found any answers? It'd be of great help to hear if you did. I don't think this is something in my head because well, I love fruits and have nothing against them...I'd love to enjoy fruit without worrying about being in excruciating pain that night.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:38 AM

Sorry, but most likely it's in your head. You are predisposed to thinking that something bad will happen to you when you eat sugar and then you assume if anything does go wrong, it's due to the sugar.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 14, 2011
at 02:25 PM

Hey, no problem. A downvote never killed anybody :)

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

(15833)

on June 13, 2011
at 02:42 PM

Lots of evidence that sugar causes inflammation and thus joint pain, sorry.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on June 13, 2011
at 06:34 PM

Thomas, FWIW, I don't think you should have been down-voted either. It's as good a theory as any, in the absence of hard data.

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 13, 2011
at 03:10 PM

That is a fair thing to guess. My other guess as to mechanism is that my family has a strong history of body pain with depression so it is totally possible that the eventual sugar is causing some depression which I am feeling as joint pain.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 13, 2011
at 04:28 PM

Wonder why I got downvoted. After all, Vrimj asked for theories (not certainties), and, right or wrong, I gave him mine. Interesting!

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 13, 2011
at 05:38 PM

Sorry about that Thomas, I did what I could to correct it. I think mind-body issues are always a possibility and that mean nocebo effects are something we have to watch out for.

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