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is SUGAR essential for health?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 03, 2013 at 3:38 PM

What are your thoughts on an article http://thankyourbody.com/is-sugar-bad/ claiming that SUGAR IS GOOD for health?

A gist extract from the article:

When our cells don???t have enough glucose to do their job they find alternative means by which to get their energy, particularly through either Lipolysis (fat breakdown) and Gluconeogenesis (new sugar creation from our own body tissue).These processes require the release of adrenaline and cortisol???our ???fight or flight??? hormonal responses.

This is why so many people have sensations of clarity, easy weight loss, and boundless energy when turning to a no-sugar or low-carb diet. Their bodies are thriving off of adrenaline and cortisol. And while these positive??effects can last many months or longer, ultimately??the body is not designed to live off of these stress hormones.

In fact, ditching sugar can destroy metabolism and lead to a weakened immune system, poor digestion, impaired sexual/reproductive function, and accelerated aging.If you cut out all sugars, your body would soon begin to fail. Your brain especially??relies??on sugar, or glucose, to function. If you don???t have enough sugar in your bloodstream, you can become confused, forgetful, or even lapse into a coma (source)

89985542ffc00c296552951369fe809a

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on April 04, 2013
at 08:37 PM

@Alligator - I have actually been living like this for 10 + years and feel fantastic, so it certainly is do-able! And my diet is not zero carb, vegetables do have carbohydrates. @VB - I appreciate that! :) My favorite veggie I would have to say is Spaghetti Squash, however, some might argue that it's a fruit because it contains seeds! @HuntingBears - As mentioned above, I have been living this way for ten years! @DH - Much agreed! I feel extremely healthy and energetic without sugar in my diet. I do not see myself ever going back to a lifestyle full of sweets.

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on April 03, 2013
at 10:20 PM

where did I mention fructose?

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 03, 2013
at 10:18 PM

@Janknitz You're probably thinking of Budai, not The Buddha.

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 03, 2013
at 10:14 PM

Lumifer! Killing us won't bring the wooly mammoths back. Put down the spear, Lumifer.

89fa2da4805b0b4e54b77a5a20a2e206

(2097)

on April 03, 2013
at 09:58 PM

you cant "lump" :) all sugars together.

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on April 03, 2013
at 09:20 PM

glucose? fructose is not our fuel source..you should know that you bear ;). fructose is how you fatten up for winter hibernation!

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on April 03, 2013
at 09:20 PM

don't listen to them, cutting out sugar and the taste of sweet in general (i.e. diet sodas) is a hidden gem to true good health. i finally admitted i needed to rid all sugars to achieve the health i wanted.

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on April 03, 2013
at 09:18 PM

congratulations! i realized that BOTH sugar (and fruit) and artificial sweeteners caused me lifelong anxiety. i now eat nothing that is sweet in taste (i believe the taste of sweet itself is detrimental, as we have sweet receptors on our tongue that can directly induce leptin resistance on tongue nerves) and my appetite/energy has totally changed.

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on April 03, 2013
at 09:17 PM

i too have had a lifetime of anxiety problems. and low carb paleo is changing my life. i used to also be very obese. i will warn you though, fructose stealthily caused me leptin resistance (and grains, veg oils and other high calorie foods then caused that weight gain). if you get rid of sugar/fruit and artificial sweeteners for good, it'll suck but over a month or two you'll see dramatic changes in your appetite and how you feel. i believe sugar/sweet foods are a trigger, it doesn't take much of a dose for them to change your metabolic state

3491e51730101b18724dc57c86601173

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on April 03, 2013
at 08:57 PM

Maybe the goal is to look like Buddha, who most certainly had a "wheat belly".

537001f30670e73eb0ac45779af649a5

on April 03, 2013
at 08:27 PM

check your acid levels in your stomach too

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 03, 2013
at 07:40 PM

...as long as you can stand the blood and the screaming... :-D

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on April 03, 2013
at 07:14 PM

how long have you been eating this way?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 03, 2013
at 07:05 PM

I would love for you to be one of my friends. I really admire people who can entertain / amuse others.

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:50 PM

Oh, I'm great at amusing people :-P Do notice that while you were laughing, the ice age has ended...

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:37 PM

Gigi - I think you are beautiful, funny and lovely. Thank you for your comment. Do you have a favorite vegetable?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:36 PM

Thanks for making me laugh. Did they have any grains 10,000 years ago or were they introduced because people ate all the wooly mammoths?

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:30 PM

Your dates are off. Wooly mammoths disappeared about 10,000 years ago.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:15 PM

This is hypocritical. You run a website that pokes fun at "celebrity fad diets" but you eliminate entire food groups from your diet. How long has a zero carb diet been working for you?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:14 PM

Really? Who ate all the woolly mammoths then?

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:11 PM

Oh, that far back? I understand the answer is "barely". The majority of humans have died out.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:01 PM

Lumifer - 60,000 years ago? There were no potatoes and very few grains.

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 03, 2013
at 05:33 PM

"then how did all those first Europeans survive long fruitless months" -- by eating starch. Lots of grain, root vegetables, potatos (once they arrived in Europe)...

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on April 03, 2013
at 05:10 PM

came here to say this, but you'd already said it.

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5
96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on April 03, 2013
at 05:14 PM

I've had a long lifetime of anxiety disorder but I slowly became very calm on paleo. Sometimes I sit and marvel at the total calm of my body--no tension, no GI gurgling or aches, no overt anxiety. It's such a turnaround from the past that bothered me a bit at first.

It turned out that wheat was my binge/guilt/anxiety trigger. I've had a horrible time breaking the addiction and it took nearly 2 years, but I finally seem to be free of cravings.

Anyhow, sugar is not the problem for me. I don't agree you have to have some, as I believe a normal intake of vegetables would give you the essential minimum. If you love fruit, as I do, you're getting plenty of glucose and fructose.

LC works wonderfully for many people and that's great. For me, though, I do much better with lots of fruit and vegetables. My skin, healing rates, energy levels, etc., are much better on a varied food regiment as opposed to LC.

I do a nosedive if I eat grain, though, along with processed oils and (apparently) many of the additives in today's packaged foods. Simple but varied is the way for me.

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on April 03, 2013
at 09:17 PM

i too have had a lifetime of anxiety problems. and low carb paleo is changing my life. i used to also be very obese. i will warn you though, fructose stealthily caused me leptin resistance (and grains, veg oils and other high calorie foods then caused that weight gain). if you get rid of sugar/fruit and artificial sweeteners for good, it'll suck but over a month or two you'll see dramatic changes in your appetite and how you feel. i believe sugar/sweet foods are a trigger, it doesn't take much of a dose for them to change your metabolic state

5
32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on April 03, 2013
at 03:45 PM

No one really need seek out concentrated, refined sugar sources, it's pretty freakin' easy to meet minimum carbohydrate needs to avoid ketosis. People don't accidentally slip into ketosis, it requires a concerted effort to do so! So she's making an argument against a diet that a tiny fraction of the population may undertake.

facepalm

Ee6932fe54ad68039a8d5f7a8caa0468

(2668)

on April 03, 2013
at 05:10 PM

came here to say this, but you'd already said it.

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:31 PM

This is silly. A website from an "avid researcher" who posts an article without any references? meh.

I will say one thing though, the author says, "Sugar, in the form of glucose, is the preferred and most efficient fuel source." -- First there's not definition for preferred and efficient -- But mostly I reacted to the pictures of table sugar, and she's talking about starchy vegetables. That's pathetic.

What a complete waste of 7 minutes of my life.

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09725e52a79d639dda33c08a6e3e74af

on April 03, 2013
at 04:05 PM

I'll be very interested in people's thoughts on this; I cut out all sugar (other than those naturally found in foods, fruits and so on ... but no sugar, honey, syrup, etc.) about a month ago, and in addition to feeling and looking better (I also cut out grains and dairy, again, I'm on and off Paleo), the most exciting and unexpected thing is the HUGE improvement in my anxiety. I have a terrible anxiety disorder, but because I'm also bipolar, there are very few meds I can take, so I struggle with it all the time. Since the sugar has been gone, the anxiety has been next to nothing ... and when I ate whatever I wanted for 4-5 days in the middle of this trial, it all came rushing back. This is a huge deal for me, so I'm hopeful that this type of eating can be maintained.

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on April 03, 2013
at 09:18 PM

congratulations! i realized that BOTH sugar (and fruit) and artificial sweeteners caused me lifelong anxiety. i now eat nothing that is sweet in taste (i believe the taste of sweet itself is detrimental, as we have sweet receptors on our tongue that can directly induce leptin resistance on tongue nerves) and my appetite/energy has totally changed.

537001f30670e73eb0ac45779af649a5

on April 03, 2013
at 08:27 PM

check your acid levels in your stomach too

2
800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

on April 03, 2013
at 03:54 PM

There's a huge difference between low-carb and zero-carb. The article deliberately jumbles them together.

How much carbs a body needs is pretty individual. Around 100g/day is much less than Standard American Diet, but is more than enough to keep you out of ketosis. For lots of details see Jaminets' The Perfect Health Diet.

Also, Robb Wolf's recent thoughts on low-carb are interesting: http://robbwolf.com/2012/12/19/carb-paleo-thoughts-part-1/ and the following parts.

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7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

on April 03, 2013
at 07:08 PM

Sugar is fucking amazing, if you want to fuck your body up restrict it in all its forms: fruit, potatoes, rice, vegetables, go for high fat, high meat, low carb if you want to lose as much weight as possible (which you probably do)

If on the other hand you want to be as healthy as possible (which is what this forum should really be about) then eat fair amounts of the stuff: it's your body's primary fuel source

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on April 03, 2013
at 10:20 PM

where did I mention fructose?

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on April 03, 2013
at 09:20 PM

glucose? fructose is not our fuel source..you should know that you bear ;). fructose is how you fatten up for winter hibernation!

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89985542ffc00c296552951369fe809a

on April 03, 2013
at 05:32 PM

The only sugar I get in my life is from the tiny bit of vegetables I eat every day. I seem to be doing pretty well just with that! :)

89985542ffc00c296552951369fe809a

(912)

on April 04, 2013
at 08:37 PM

@Alligator - I have actually been living like this for 10 + years and feel fantastic, so it certainly is do-able! And my diet is not zero carb, vegetables do have carbohydrates. @VB - I appreciate that! :) My favorite veggie I would have to say is Spaghetti Squash, however, some might argue that it's a fruit because it contains seeds! @HuntingBears - As mentioned above, I have been living this way for ten years! @DH - Much agreed! I feel extremely healthy and energetic without sugar in my diet. I do not see myself ever going back to a lifestyle full of sweets.

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on April 03, 2013
at 09:20 PM

don't listen to them, cutting out sugar and the taste of sweet in general (i.e. diet sodas) is a hidden gem to true good health. i finally admitted i needed to rid all sugars to achieve the health i wanted.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:15 PM

This is hypocritical. You run a website that pokes fun at "celebrity fad diets" but you eliminate entire food groups from your diet. How long has a zero carb diet been working for you?

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on April 03, 2013
at 07:14 PM

how long have you been eating this way?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:37 PM

Gigi - I think you are beautiful, funny and lovely. Thank you for your comment. Do you have a favorite vegetable?

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24c27817ad9ac518946dda4a131737b5

on April 03, 2013
at 07:20 PM

I get this from a Buddhist friend of mine whose gurus apparently teach that "because carbs are more easily digested by the body", he should eat more rice, buns, and the like. Of course, he is beginning to gain ab fat despite being reasonably active at age 27 (and eating moderately as Buddhists do). His gurus apparently also teach weird stuff such as that garlic, onions, scallion, chili, and even garlic chives are bad for the body. Not sure where all that comes from.

3491e51730101b18724dc57c86601173

(8395)

on April 03, 2013
at 08:57 PM

Maybe the goal is to look like Buddha, who most certainly had a "wheat belly".

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 03, 2013
at 10:18 PM

@Janknitz You're probably thinking of Budai, not The Buddha.

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06bf7b92d77f1ac1d8e3dc9d539d8254

on April 03, 2013
at 07:05 PM

I think the take away message from that could be "Chill the eff out about your diet," although most people on this site (including me) will have a hell of a time doing that. Instead we will debate on what she REALLY means by sugar, the mechanics of ketosis, etc. Good stuff!

0
4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:12 PM

Of course, you need your blood glucose to be in a certain range, so you need to consume carbs. You could convert fat and protein to glucose, but as the article mentions, that's stressful and has bad long term consequences.

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 03, 2013
at 05:30 PM

Is sugar essential? Well, then how did all those first Europeans survive long fruitless months? By digging up berries under thick snow?

I doubt it.

Also, WWJMS? (what would Jimmy Moore say?

And what about people with SIBO? Their bacteria is going to thrive on sugar.

So... to each their own. And processed foods for no one.

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:30 PM

Your dates are off. Wooly mammoths disappeared about 10,000 years ago.

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 03, 2013
at 10:14 PM

Lumifer! Killing us won't bring the wooly mammoths back. Put down the spear, Lumifer.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:14 PM

Really? Who ate all the woolly mammoths then?

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:50 PM

Oh, I'm great at amusing people :-P Do notice that while you were laughing, the ice age has ended...

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:11 PM

Oh, that far back? I understand the answer is "barely". The majority of humans have died out.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:01 PM

Lumifer - 60,000 years ago? There were no potatoes and very few grains.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 03, 2013
at 06:36 PM

Thanks for making me laugh. Did they have any grains 10,000 years ago or were they introduced because people ate all the wooly mammoths?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 03, 2013
at 07:05 PM

I would love for you to be one of my friends. I really admire people who can entertain / amuse others.

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 03, 2013
at 07:40 PM

...as long as you can stand the blood and the screaming... :-D

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 03, 2013
at 05:33 PM

"then how did all those first Europeans survive long fruitless months" -- by eating starch. Lots of grain, root vegetables, potatos (once they arrived in Europe)...

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