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Fruit sugar or no sugar?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created December 10, 2012 at 5:57 AM

Some say that fruit is OK since we're better able to assimilate the sugars as a result of the protein within the fruit?

So in theory we can eat copious amounts of fruits and be OK?

We crave sugar as human beings, because we evolved to realize that the foods with the highest nutrient capacity also contained sugar... am I right to say that?

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

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on January 07, 2013
at 10:06 PM

colon cancer only comes from combining meat and starch. meat and greens and veggies digests fine and doesn't make it to the colon to cause cancer there.

5bac45c78a2be60bc17fc2084a0f5d43

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on December 12, 2012
at 01:54 AM

Aughra, I am talking about excessive fermenting of course. Somebody with SIBO might want to restrict fiber.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 11, 2012
at 12:26 PM

I don't approve of any sort of banana diet, I'm raw vegan

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

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on December 11, 2012
at 11:32 AM

I stand corrected.

B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

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on December 11, 2012
at 08:28 AM

Bacon. You should eat copious amounts of bacon.

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on December 11, 2012
at 07:58 AM

What's wrong with fermenting in your gut? The ferment-able fibers in potatoes and other root vegetables are actually quite good for healthy gut flora unless you are currently battling a candida infection.

E773ca32b29508bae2055579a26afa98

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on December 11, 2012
at 05:52 AM

Thanks for the tip, I’m saddling up my unicorn now to go check it out.

Cc3ce03985eac5ebcbb95fc2329f13b0

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on December 11, 2012
at 05:50 AM

Right. Trolling.

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

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on December 11, 2012
at 05:42 AM

is this durianrider trolling as flourishing. haha looking for approval of your stupid banana diet?

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

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on December 11, 2012
at 05:37 AM

good luck producing all of your complex neurotransmitters that the essential amino acids make so well. trust me, you need animal protein. its detrimental for your brain to go too long without any. i don't eat any meat from mammals but i couldnt imagine living without my fish, raw dairy, raw egg yolks and runny eggs.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 11, 2012
at 04:50 AM

Does trolling mean internet browsing? Anyways, I was Starving while I was fasting, now I'm Flourishing on my raw vegan diet cause that's how humans were meant to live

07243c7700483a67386049f7b67d90a4

on December 10, 2012
at 06:01 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that your sited link may be biased ;-)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 10, 2012
at 04:13 PM

Humans are not meat-eaters by nature; we didn't evolve to eat meats. Here, read this article: http://prime.peta.org/2009/10/yes-its-true-humans-arent-meant-to-eat-meat

Ba99a15e6bf870b81286791617050593

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on December 10, 2012
at 10:55 AM

What do you mean? Rainbows are paleo. Taste them.

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on December 10, 2012
at 07:37 AM

White sugar: no antinutrients...errr no micro- or phyto-nutrients either. Still, +1 for your fruit choice recommendations. I like your list.

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1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

on December 11, 2012
at 07:50 AM

I'm doing well since I switched to a high raw diet. Only difference between you and me is that I have a little seafood or organ meats every day too, but most of my day is full of fruit and veggies. I did actually have about a week there where I avoided any animal protein and I felt very speedy and edgy. It reminded me of how I was as a vegan when I was a teenager. Plenty of energy but crazy and mean. Only difference is I'm a wife and mother now and I can't function like that. Eat real food and do what's working for you. A ton of cooked muscle meat doesn't really work for me but there are others it DOES work for. There are some people in the paleo-sphere doing an all potato to 90% potato hack right now and having great success, which reminds me of a certain Dr. McDougall many in the vegan world adore. The Paleo-sphere is ever evolving and different people find things that work for them; our unifying factor seems to be knowing that certain nutrients are only bio-available from animal sources and avoiding neolithic agents of disease. If raw vegan is working for you, keep on doing it. I doubt you're going to get any converts over here, though, so perhaps investing that passion of yours in a place where you will make more of a difference is a better idea.

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5bac45c78a2be60bc17fc2084a0f5d43

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on December 10, 2012
at 07:25 AM

AFAIK fruits may be tricky due to some factors:

  1. Plant antinutrients. For example mango contains the same poison in the skin as poison ivy. Kiwi can be cause of allergy in some people.
  2. Some fruits have more fructose than glucose (apples) so may cause fructose malabsorption.
  3. Unripe fruits contain resistant starch (bananas) which is fermentable by bacteria in guts.
  4. If you are going to eat a lot of fruits, fiber might be a problem, also fermented by bacteria.

On the other hand, if you know your sensitivities and stick to moderate amount of ripe fruits, they should be ok.

Another alternative is white sugar (no antinutrients, 50/50 glucose/fructose), honey and juice from non allergenic fruits. (I know I will be killed for saying this on this forum)

5bac45c78a2be60bc17fc2084a0f5d43

(259)

on December 12, 2012
at 01:54 AM

Aughra, I am talking about excessive fermenting of course. Somebody with SIBO might want to restrict fiber.

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12682)

on December 10, 2012
at 07:37 AM

White sugar: no antinutrients...errr no micro- or phyto-nutrients either. Still, +1 for your fruit choice recommendations. I like your list.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on December 11, 2012
at 07:58 AM

What's wrong with fermenting in your gut? The ferment-able fibers in potatoes and other root vegetables are actually quite good for healthy gut flora unless you are currently battling a candida infection.

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Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

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on December 10, 2012
at 06:09 AM

You again?

I don't think you should eat "copious amounts" of anything.

...and meat has lots of nutrients but no sugar

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on December 10, 2012
at 04:13 PM

Humans are not meat-eaters by nature; we didn't evolve to eat meats. Here, read this article: http://prime.peta.org/2009/10/yes-its-true-humans-arent-meant-to-eat-meat

07243c7700483a67386049f7b67d90a4

on December 10, 2012
at 06:01 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that your sited link may be biased ;-)

B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

(11488)

on December 11, 2012
at 08:28 AM

Bacon. You should eat copious amounts of bacon.

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

(9402)

on December 11, 2012
at 11:32 AM

I stand corrected.

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E773ca32b29508bae2055579a26afa98

on December 10, 2012
at 06:52 AM

When you cut back on sugar, the cravings will subside. We didn???t evolve to eat Skittles.

E773ca32b29508bae2055579a26afa98

(470)

on December 11, 2012
at 05:52 AM

Thanks for the tip, I’m saddling up my unicorn now to go check it out.

Ba99a15e6bf870b81286791617050593

(671)

on December 10, 2012
at 10:55 AM

What do you mean? Rainbows are paleo. Taste them.

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089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on December 17, 2012
at 09:08 PM

i don't think it's a good idea to eat an unlimited amount of fruit. i was a raw vegan for 3 years and my health went down the drain. such a mistake and i wish i could take it back. maybe it works for a small amount of people that have iron digestive tracks, but it literally scraped the crap out of me.

now, i eat one or two pieces a day or some dates. i don't do the 20 bananas a day anymore.

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on December 10, 2012
at 09:14 AM

Without detrimental health consequences, you can eat as much fruit as you want as long as your serum glucose doesn't go over 100 mg/dl /wink

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on December 17, 2012
at 09:03 AM

I had one day without fruit - first day without it for about well may be ever actually and I felt much better. I use it like the sugar to which I will always be addicted and can eat far far to much of it. I think I have probably decided I need not to eat it much at all at least for now.

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Cc3ce03985eac5ebcbb95fc2329f13b0

on December 11, 2012
at 03:06 AM

I think this might be the same person who's been trolling as "Starving". The questions are the same.

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

(922)

on December 11, 2012
at 05:37 AM

good luck producing all of your complex neurotransmitters that the essential amino acids make so well. trust me, you need animal protein. its detrimental for your brain to go too long without any. i don't eat any meat from mammals but i couldnt imagine living without my fish, raw dairy, raw egg yolks and runny eggs.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on December 11, 2012
at 04:50 AM

Does trolling mean internet browsing? Anyways, I was Starving while I was fasting, now I'm Flourishing on my raw vegan diet cause that's how humans were meant to live

Cc3ce03985eac5ebcbb95fc2329f13b0

(7370)

on December 11, 2012
at 05:50 AM

Right. Trolling.

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on January 07, 2013
at 09:28 PM

I hope that the colon cancer you are all absolutely going to get doesn't take quite as long.

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

(922)

on January 07, 2013
at 10:06 PM

colon cancer only comes from combining meat and starch. meat and greens and veggies digests fine and doesn't make it to the colon to cause cancer there.

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