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Cane Sugar - Yay or Nay?

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Created August 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Anyone have thoughts about cane sugar that's found in diet hansen soda and cashew clusters? What about cane juice? Is this a Paleo fopaux?

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on August 26, 2013
at 12:09 PM

Xylitol is extracted from spent liquor from hardwood pulping. Yes it came from a tree. No it is not natural, unless you eat trees.

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on August 26, 2013
at 12:12 AM

sugar cane is not natural like maple syrup or honey

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on August 25, 2013
at 11:06 PM

Cane sugar is basically identical to beet sugar and high fructose corn syrup. The idea that it's "pure" or "natural" or healthy is 100% marketing hype.

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on July 13, 2012
at 09:40 PM

Maple syrup has been my sweetener of choice, lately. It's higher in antioxidants than honey or sugar, and is mostly sucrose. And I put sugar in my PWO cup of heavy cream to balance the salt I also put in there, but that's just ten kinds of paleo-wrong, so don't go by me there. :P

1bbcd2122d9c75b07440f22ef57d6448

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on July 13, 2012
at 09:37 PM

Aye aye, Captain Paleo!

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on July 13, 2012
at 09:36 PM

"processed" doesn't imply bad. "natural" doesn't imply good. I don't care the agave is "natural" it's still 90% fructose. Processing itself isn't inherently bad, it's that processing usually makes the food, not foodlike, and that's why we shouldn't eat it. It's the end result that matters, not how we got there.

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on July 13, 2012
at 09:29 PM

Do you not mean to say "is this a paleo faux pas?"

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on July 13, 2012
at 09:21 PM

Honey does have a few positive benefits, such as being antimicrobial. Agave is horrible, but tequila is nice.

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on July 13, 2012
at 09:17 PM

For those above that are saying you would rather use HFCS over honey or agave, you should do some research. If you are looking for the lesser of two evils, why would you pick a processed item over a non-processed? Pure honey is just that. As is pure agave. They are natural. Fructose is "fruit sugar," sweetness that is produced naturally in the agave and many other plants. Your body can break down the natural stuff much easier than the processed stuff and satisfy your "sweet" craving with a lesser amount. Here is some nice info I found on pure honey: http://www.captainjohnshoney.com/main.htm

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on August 20, 2011
at 10:19 PM

Honey is largely fructose as well. Honestly, I'd say table sugar (50% fructose and 50% glucose, essentially) isn't as bad for you as honey, agave, or HFCS, and something like dextrose (100% glucose) even less. On the other hand, if it's just a rare, once-in-a-blue-moon cheat, none of them are likely to cause too many problems unless you have a lot at once.

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on August 20, 2011
at 05:56 PM

please direct me to them. if i see some compelling evidence to include sugar in my diet, i'd be open to the idea. but you have to give me more than "some studies"

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on August 20, 2011
at 04:24 PM

I don't know. I'd only consume a large amount of sugar before a workout, personally.

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on August 20, 2011
at 03:16 PM

Noted :P, honey then? I do personally try to avoid all added sugar, but it is always best to know the lesser of evils. And that seems to be what this question is about.

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on August 20, 2011
at 01:03 PM

Lol! A down-vote? Really?

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

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on August 20, 2011
at 12:18 PM

yes we have the ability to process fructose controlled and safely

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

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on August 20, 2011
at 12:16 PM

what about when you take sucrose and combine it with nutrient dense food, do you think there are still negative reactions?

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

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on August 20, 2011
at 12:14 PM

what about PO workout if you need to refill glycogen stores?

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

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on August 20, 2011
at 12:11 PM

not according to some studies

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on August 19, 2011
at 05:38 PM

Agave is the worst possible sweetener you can use. It's 90% fructose. I'd rather use high fructose corn syrup.

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on August 19, 2011
at 04:16 PM

Yeah, as Rose said it is just a little less processed. If a sweetener is added, agave or honey is ideal.

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on August 19, 2011
at 03:57 PM

It's my understanding that cane sugar is table sugar, the ordinary white (sometimes brown) stuff. Cane juice is just slightly less processed, according to this site, but seems essentially the same as cane sugar: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=120

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99a6e964584f20f3f69ad3a70a335353

(1334)

on August 19, 2011
at 03:56 PM

Avoid added sugar of any type. It's bad juju.

67460907f9d818f56e1ef4c846317386

(504)

on August 19, 2011
at 04:16 PM

Yeah, as Rose said it is just a little less processed. If a sweetener is added, agave or honey is ideal.

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on August 19, 2011
at 05:38 PM

Agave is the worst possible sweetener you can use. It's 90% fructose. I'd rather use high fructose corn syrup.

67460907f9d818f56e1ef4c846317386

(504)

on August 20, 2011
at 03:16 PM

Noted :P, honey then? I do personally try to avoid all added sugar, but it is always best to know the lesser of evils. And that seems to be what this question is about.

99a6e964584f20f3f69ad3a70a335353

(1334)

on August 20, 2011
at 10:19 PM

Honey is largely fructose as well. Honestly, I'd say table sugar (50% fructose and 50% glucose, essentially) isn't as bad for you as honey, agave, or HFCS, and something like dextrose (100% glucose) even less. On the other hand, if it's just a rare, once-in-a-blue-moon cheat, none of them are likely to cause too many problems unless you have a lot at once.

1bbcd2122d9c75b07440f22ef57d6448

(2934)

on July 13, 2012
at 09:40 PM

Maple syrup has been my sweetener of choice, lately. It's higher in antioxidants than honey or sugar, and is mostly sucrose. And I put sugar in my PWO cup of heavy cream to balance the salt I also put in there, but that's just ten kinds of paleo-wrong, so don't go by me there. :P

30d56a7c9191580d0828cdbdf68e9e52

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on July 13, 2012
at 09:17 PM

For those above that are saying you would rather use HFCS over honey or agave, you should do some research. If you are looking for the lesser of two evils, why would you pick a processed item over a non-processed? Pure honey is just that. As is pure agave. They are natural. Fructose is "fruit sugar," sweetness that is produced naturally in the agave and many other plants. Your body can break down the natural stuff much easier than the processed stuff and satisfy your "sweet" craving with a lesser amount. Here is some nice info I found on pure honey: http://www.captainjohnshoney.com/main.htm

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 13, 2012
at 09:21 PM

Honey does have a few positive benefits, such as being antimicrobial. Agave is horrible, but tequila is nice.

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on August 20, 2011
at 01:37 PM

Just eat Whole Food. It should be the simple rule of paleo. Can you find and eat those quantities on a daily basis in that source in the wild? Then go for it. Is the source farmed, processed, or concentrated? Avoid it.

I still firmly suggest anyone with a damaged system avoid more than minimal carbs until healthy and follow a gut healing, anti inflammatory diet. Sugar of any kind has inflammatory reactions.

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9ac8a7b68cf079b22de42b703e466e64

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on August 20, 2011
at 08:47 AM

sugar is sugar is sugar is sugar. just stop looking for some alternative. if you've decided you're going to have some sugar, then go for the cane sugar. it's better than any artificial one. just don't trick yourself into thinking it's healthy/ beneficial in any way, shape or form

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

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on August 20, 2011
at 12:11 PM

not according to some studies

9ac8a7b68cf079b22de42b703e466e64

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on August 20, 2011
at 05:56 PM

please direct me to them. if i see some compelling evidence to include sugar in my diet, i'd be open to the idea. but you have to give me more than "some studies"

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Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

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on August 19, 2011
at 05:42 PM

Cane sugar is just regular sugar and it still has 50% fructose. However, a little bit of fructose is fine. For example, I'll have dark chocolate with 6g sugar and 3g fructose and I definitely don't think that is a problem.

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

(812)

on August 20, 2011
at 12:18 PM

yes we have the ability to process fructose controlled and safely

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22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

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on August 19, 2011
at 04:58 PM

Cane sugar has only one thing going for it: Manufacturers that use cane sugar care more about food quality than those using high fructose corn syrup.

It's also okay right before a workout. Sugar is metabolized very quickly and if you can burn it off, it's okay to have some.

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

(1402)

on August 20, 2011
at 04:24 PM

I don't know. I'd only consume a large amount of sugar before a workout, personally.

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

(812)

on August 20, 2011
at 12:14 PM

what about PO workout if you need to refill glycogen stores?

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(19479)

on August 19, 2011
at 06:45 PM

I'd say the "nay's" have it!

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(19479)

on August 20, 2011
at 01:03 PM

Lol! A down-vote? Really?

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on August 25, 2013
at 09:48 PM

It is not added sugar when it is natural! Cane Sugar, Coconut Palm Sugar, Maple Syrup, Xylitol, Honey etc, is Natural, and that is something the body can absorb and convert!

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on August 26, 2013
at 12:12 AM

sugar cane is not natural like maple syrup or honey

Medium avatar

(10611)

on August 26, 2013
at 12:09 PM

Xylitol is extracted from spent liquor from hardwood pulping. Yes it came from a tree. No it is not natural, unless you eat trees.

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30d56a7c9191580d0828cdbdf68e9e52

on July 13, 2012
at 09:16 PM

For those above that are saying you would rather use HFCS over honey or agave, you should do some research. If you are looking for the lesser of two evils, why would you pick a processed item over a non-processed? Pure honey is just that. As is pure agave. They are natural. Fructose is "fruit sugar," sweetness that is produced naturally in the agave and many other plants. Your body can break down the natural stuff much easier than the processed stuff and satisfy your "sweet" craving with a lesser amount. Here is some nice info I found on pure honey:

http://www.captainjohnshoney.com/main.htm

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

(20888)

on July 13, 2012
at 09:36 PM

"processed" doesn't imply bad. "natural" doesn't imply good. I don't care the agave is "natural" it's still 90% fructose. Processing itself isn't inherently bad, it's that processing usually makes the food, not foodlike, and that's why we shouldn't eat it. It's the end result that matters, not how we got there.

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on August 19, 2011
at 06:04 PM

Sucanat seems benign in small quantities (in coffee or tea, as opposed to a cupcake). It's essentially dried cane juice from the initial pressing. Lots of minerals and nutrients are preserved, and it has a very molasses-like flavor. It's also not as sweet as refined sugar. I've had it the past with no issues.

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on August 19, 2011
at 05:04 PM

I would have to agree with the others. I believe can sugar is less processed, but outside of that, your body has the same negative reactions to it.

36b7a2776d028dc8d5743e2e56ece34d

(812)

on August 20, 2011
at 12:16 PM

what about when you take sucrose and combine it with nutrient dense food, do you think there are still negative reactions?

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on August 19, 2011
at 04:18 PM

nope if your doing paleo no added sugar of any kind!!!

1bbcd2122d9c75b07440f22ef57d6448

(2934)

on July 13, 2012
at 09:37 PM

Aye aye, Captain Paleo!

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