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Possible Stomach Ulcer

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created June 26, 2012 at 1:48 AM

So, I've been improving somewhat with the GERD but am now wondering if I might have a stomach ulcer. Pain above sternum/sternum, bloating and aching. No dark stools or anything, but I was curious as to if that matched up to symptoms. I'm not really taking any supplements now aside from a probiotic, and Now Super Enzymes. Any remedies for an ulcer?

Efba2b071e8f4c54acbc1da52ac91030

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on February 24, 2013
at 07:43 AM

Hmm, I think your type of digestive pain is different than mine, VB. In my case, it is constant, not after eating. In fact, I usually eat raw veggies daily, but have to stop completely when I have an ulcer. Eating will lessen the pain a bit in my case. Anyway, too much raw veggies has triggered an ulcer for me in the past. But, I think you have something different than me in this case.

Efba2b071e8f4c54acbc1da52ac91030

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on February 24, 2013
at 07:37 AM

Ugh, maybe raw food works for some, but eating any vegetables raw when I have an ulcer is a recipe for a lot of hurt! In fact, eating too many raw vegetables will trigger an ulcer for me. I love kale, but my latest incident was from too much of it.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on June 26, 2012
at 08:21 PM

Is it possible that the cleanse forumula helped cause the irritation? No garuntees those will work well for everyone. I tried some "gut health support" combinations that made me very nauseous and ill.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on June 26, 2012
at 08:20 PM

In my experience raw veggies when I actually had a stomach ulcer caused major cramping and discomfort, so I'm not so sure that's a great idea if you possibly still have an ulcer. I would recommend lots of bone broth and probiotics.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on June 26, 2012
at 08:17 PM

Yeah, for my ulcers I think it was mostly linked to guzzling glasses of milk on a regular basis. Can only eat fermented dairy now. Huge difference when I cut that out, stopped getting ear infections from GERD and ulcers went away. Took a short course of antibiotics for H. Pylori and repopulated my gut with Bio-K, kefir, and other probiotics. Was worth the antibiotics for me I think.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on June 26, 2012
at 06:57 PM

Betaine HCL does help me. The enzymes in the Now supplement you are taking can be very irritating. Btw, the HCL can also be irritating.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on June 26, 2012
at 05:28 PM

WTF! go see a doctor ulcers are serious.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on June 26, 2012
at 11:09 AM

I have just read your response. Raw carrots are too tough to start with. Start with raw peeled cucumbers or bananas - they are very gentle. PLEASE EAT AT LEAST SOME RAW FOODS WITH EVERY MEAL. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

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on June 26, 2012
at 03:39 AM

Jay, and I mean this in all sincerity (I'm not being serious about that too) I thought the betaine + HCL helped you? The Now Super Enzymes have betaine HCL + Pepsin as well as an enzymatic blend.

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on June 26, 2012
at 02:50 AM

I eliminated one thing at a time including milk, spicy foods, coffee, alcohol, tomatoes, etc. and for me it was the coffee.

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

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on June 26, 2012
at 02:40 AM

Coffee is the main thing that bothers my stomach and is the main reason I have to take prilosec. Not spicy food, not vinegar, just coffee.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on June 26, 2012
at 02:12 AM

I would stop taking the enzymes; they can be very irritating

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on June 26, 2012
at 02:12 AM

I would stop taking the enzymes; they can be very irratating

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on June 26, 2012
at 02:09 AM

The enzymes you are taking are eating your flesh. Stop taking them.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

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on June 26, 2012
at 01:53 AM

I should probably add, I was insanely stressed out Saturday, and Sunday afternoon was when the aching/pain began with some nausea.

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on June 26, 2012
at 02:40 AM

I am going to write something that people will think is crazy. I would also think it is crazy but I read at least two articles supporting it and strangely enough, it works for me.

I have tried many things to heal my stomach from gastric erosion. I had terrible pains after eating and my digestion was all screwed up. I found only one thing working and I am going to share it with you. I don't know if it is going to work for you or not (hope it does) but it worked wonders for me.

  1. No raw onions, peppers, coffee, tea, chocolate, anything that might irritate your stomach.

  2. No grains in any shape or form.

  3. THE MOST CRUCIAL PART: Raw foods with every meal. If you have not had raw foods in a while, start with little steps. Raw peeled cucumbers. Raw bananas. Raw carrots if your stomach can handle them (I used to get stomach ache at first). DO NOT GRATE OR BLEND YOUR RAW FOODS. NO MUSHY STUFF. You have to bite from a whole piece and chew it very very well. CHEW FOR A LONG TIME. Do not eat only 100% raw food at first if you are not used to it. Gradually increase your raw food intake to only raw vegetables, fruits, raw nuts with cooked protein of your choice. Why? Raw foods will train your stomach to produce enzymes.

  4. Plenty of water inbetween meals. I would say you have to drink more than usual, but not right after the meal. If you have H. Pylori, drink even more (one glass every hour). Water neutralizes stomach acid and H.Pylori can only survive in acidic environment. Do not drink water in one gulp, sip little sips to prevent kidney overload.

GOOD LUCK and let me know if you try it and how it is working for you.

P.S. I cannot take enzymes - they irritate my stomach, like raw onions. Cooked onions are okay.

Efba2b071e8f4c54acbc1da52ac91030

(199)

on February 24, 2013
at 07:43 AM

Hmm, I think your type of digestive pain is different than mine, VB. In my case, it is constant, not after eating. In fact, I usually eat raw veggies daily, but have to stop completely when I have an ulcer. Eating will lessen the pain a bit in my case. Anyway, too much raw veggies has triggered an ulcer for me in the past. But, I think you have something different than me in this case.

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E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

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on June 26, 2012
at 02:48 AM

Thanks, all! I will say that I experienced most of the pain immediately following an intense workout yesterday, and today after drinking some cold goat's milk kefir. I have some licorice (I know, I know! I initiated an article talking about the unhealthy aspects of licorice) which I now has scientifically been proven to treat ulcers. I might try that for a day or two.

Also, UncleLongHair: Can stress really cause ulcers? Mine is on the left side in kind of the area underneath the middle abdomen. I misspoke when I said sternum; that's the area that seemed to tighten up first but not where the ache and pain came from.

VB: I'm doing all that except the raw foods. I started with raw carrots yesterday and today just by happenstance, and I'm hoping that didn't trigger this!

Also, I don't know how much stock people on here put into candida albicans overgrowth, but I've been taking a candida cleanse formula for a couple of days; however, I started taking this Friday, and the irritation didn't start until Sunday. Would not the herbs have bothered me sooner? I'll stop this for a couple of days and see what transpires.

Thanks again, all!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on June 26, 2012
at 11:09 AM

I have just read your response. Raw carrots are too tough to start with. Start with raw peeled cucumbers or bananas - they are very gentle. PLEASE EAT AT LEAST SOME RAW FOODS WITH EVERY MEAL. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on June 26, 2012
at 08:21 PM

Is it possible that the cleanse forumula helped cause the irritation? No garuntees those will work well for everyone. I tried some "gut health support" combinations that made me very nauseous and ill.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on June 26, 2012
at 08:20 PM

In my experience raw veggies when I actually had a stomach ulcer caused major cramping and discomfort, so I'm not so sure that's a great idea if you possibly still have an ulcer. I would recommend lots of bone broth and probiotics.

Efba2b071e8f4c54acbc1da52ac91030

(199)

on February 24, 2013
at 07:37 AM

Ugh, maybe raw food works for some, but eating any vegetables raw when I have an ulcer is a recipe for a lot of hurt! In fact, eating too many raw vegetables will trigger an ulcer for me. I love kale, but my latest incident was from too much of it.

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9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

on June 26, 2012
at 02:04 AM

If the symptoms are recurring and you are worried about it, go see a doctor. That said, I had peptic ulcers some years back (four of them to be precise). The location of the discomfort was not the sternum, rather an inch or two below my lower right rib cage, mine were in the area where the stomach empties into the duodenum, which I understand is pretty typical. I did have recurring GERD and that was definitely in the sternum region and the back of my throat, but the ulcers themselves were much further down the pike.

It is a long story but I ended up curing my ulcers by dropping coffee (not caffeine, but just coffee) for about 3 months. I suspect that the combination of gluten and caffeine was particularly problematic, I ate lots of gluten at the time. Also way too much stress, alcohol, Tylenol and ibuprofin.

It is worth going to the doctor since they can quickly test you for things like H. Pylori which is both common and easily treated. Most doctors won't spend more than 15 seconds on diet and lifestyle though, in my experience.

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

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on June 26, 2012
at 02:40 AM

Coffee is the main thing that bothers my stomach and is the main reason I have to take prilosec. Not spicy food, not vinegar, just coffee.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

(15833)

on June 26, 2012
at 02:50 AM

I eliminated one thing at a time including milk, spicy foods, coffee, alcohol, tomatoes, etc. and for me it was the coffee.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on June 26, 2012
at 08:17 PM

Yeah, for my ulcers I think it was mostly linked to guzzling glasses of milk on a regular basis. Can only eat fermented dairy now. Huge difference when I cut that out, stopped getting ear infections from GERD and ulcers went away. Took a short course of antibiotics for H. Pylori and repopulated my gut with Bio-K, kefir, and other probiotics. Was worth the antibiotics for me I think.

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Efba2b071e8f4c54acbc1da52ac91030

(199)

on February 24, 2013
at 07:50 AM

Having had 20+ years experience with ulcers, the best thing to cure it for a few years (until I mess up my diet and they come back) is Acupuncture. By far, acupuncture has been the most effective. It will cure the ulcer within 1-5 sessions, depending on how long I had let the ulcer get bad before visiting the acupuncturist.

Community acupuncture works well too. It is even cheaper than my doctor's co-pay.

And of course, until you get better avoid: Alcohol Smoking Gluten Coffee Stress Advil/Alleve/Aspirin Raw veggies (sorry VB, for me they set me back) Getting too hungry

One Chinese Doctor told me to drink a cup of black tea everyday (avoid green).

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on June 26, 2012
at 05:30 PM

Seriously, go see a doctor. Ulcers can be serious and it could be something else

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