10 tablets of Betaine HCl on empty stomach: no effect!

Commented on September 11, 2014
Created September 10, 2014 at 8:04 PM

So, my lack of stomach acid is evident. I never burp, never get heartburn / reflux etc. Chronic indigestion for 10 years.

Should I keep increasing the dose? I'm doing this on Chris Kresser's advice to keep increasing the dose until you feel something...

What else can be done to help hydrochloric acid production? Really struggling to digest things at the moment. Paleo for 2.5 years...

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on September 11, 2014
at 10:49 AM

Take them before you eat.  Add in digestive bitters.  Supplement with magnesium, selenium, zinc.


Did you happen to have your gall bladder removed? If so, also take oxbile, or take a Betaine-HCL supplement that has oxbile in it.


FIY: heartburn is usually caused by low stomach acid, very rarely it is caused by high stomach acid.  You might have H. Pylori, get checked for that, these little bugs tend to turn off stomach acid.


One good way to tell if you're low on stomach acid is if you just can't digest meat at all, you eat a rare steak (well done, or overcooked is much harder to digest), and it just sits there in your stomach like a rock.  If you can easily digest steak, you don't actually have low stomach acid.




on September 11, 2014
at 03:33 PM

digestive bitters can be found in abundance in any chicory (catalonia, radicchio, endive, though endive is blanched and has much less), dandelion leaves and roots, chicory root, and cardoon. You can get some in artichokes too. You can get in herbs like gentiane (sp?) and rhemannia. 



on September 11, 2014
at 10:31 PM

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I have been taking bitters magnesium and zinc, and the betaine I did take before meals. Thing is that taking capsules or pills has been giving me indigestion which is very unpleasant and lasts 12 hours so I've discontinued that of late, with the exception of betaine.

Never had my gallbladder removed. I was informed by a medical intuitive friend that I had gallstones, but that seemed unlikely to me at the time as I didn't have any acute symptoms. I did just go and see a herbalist that recommended me something to stimulate bile production so it seems that strengthening the gallbladder is something worth persuing.

I keep hearing that heartburn is caused by low stomach acid, but I don't understand how this is so. What I do know however is that in the rare periods when my digestion has worked properly in the past 10 years, I have occasionally burped and gotten a slight warm / acid sensation in my gut. This is what I'd expect taking betaine to simulate.

Thus, my digestion is not so bad that I can't digest things at all. However, it is very weak and the list of things I can digest without major problems is fairly short, while even with more or less all of those I get the sense most of the time after eating them that things are not being worked on very efficiently.

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