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What symptoms do you have after eating wheat, dairy, or bad oils?

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Created October 30, 2011 at 1:09 AM

For the past few days, I've been sorely tempted to go for a pint of Ben & Jerry's. So far I've resisted. I've eaten super clean for months, and the memories of full on binges (think 20 full size candy bars. wish I were exaggerating) and their aftereffects have faded. I think remembering them will help me stay on track. So, how do junk foods affect you physically and mentally?

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on November 07, 2011
at 07:06 PM

i wish i could just eat ice cream. it's my mindset that's disordered, being an all or nothing person

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 02, 2011
at 11:24 PM

Wow, what a perfect description of my most recent (hopefully final) foray into eating doughnuts.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 02, 2011
at 11:22 PM

Melissa, +1 for sharing. :-))

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on November 02, 2011
at 07:52 PM

I love Lindt dark chocolate, but I still wanted ice cream (apparently I can have my cream and eat it too (unlike cake!))

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on October 31, 2011
at 09:50 PM

I have gradually eaten darker and darker chocolate and now I can eat 99% without making faces. Hershey's is gross now.

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on October 31, 2011
at 12:40 PM

Good, quality, dark chocolate (70% or higher) is pretty much the only chocolate I like now. Hershey's chocolate is gross, even the "dark" kind. This didn't ruin ice cream for me, but I have no problem staying away from cheap and milk chocolates. 8)

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on October 31, 2011
at 06:38 AM

this sounds so familiar! i have been falling off for the last two months, everytime i feel like i'm getting back on track, i get tempted again by a cookie or something, and hence beginw the downward spiral...and have put on 8lb in three weeks...hard to get back on track esp,. after one day of cheating, it takes several to 'recover'1

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at 02:30 AM

I forgot to list the bad responses to some food items: gluten me: constipation, bloating, mood swings, psoriasis, post-workout soreness about 50-70% increase gluten hubby: allergies, snoring, nasal congestion, belching, gas, bloating, severe abdominal pain (depending on amount), diarrhea, depression, brain fog, mood swings, eye inflammation, recurrent pink eye, psoriasis, post-workout soreness about 50-70% increase soy protein but not fermented soy or soy lecithin - gas, bloating, abdominal pain Omega 6 oils: acne, dry eye too many legumes: gas, bloating, abdominal pain, muscle soreness

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on October 31, 2011
at 02:25 AM

I ate a whole cheesecake once :) It was gross.

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:42 AM

I did and it made me want to never eat chocolate again.

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:41 AM

Bad breath is my number one symptom. When my breath starts thinking I know something isn't agreeing with me.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on October 30, 2011
at 06:13 PM

Speaking as a recovering food addict, I always felt sick but didn't actually realize it was wheat as well as dairy. I did suspect dairy because milk and most milk products taste bad to me unless heavily sweetened. It took 4 months of primal and then falling off the wagon to show me just how sick wheat made me. I'm a slow learner, so it took 3 incidents to convince me it wasn't worth it. :-))

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on October 30, 2011
at 04:50 PM

hell yeah! feeling bloated with no energy is the absolute pits...

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on October 30, 2011
at 04:17 PM

to be honest, i feel the same! but additionally, feeling energized on top of not bloated adds to the feeling of sexy for me :)

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on October 30, 2011
at 06:28 AM

i know i am a binge eater, a food addict. you know what they say for alcoholics: one drink is too much and 100 is not enough. i KNOW this. but somehow i keep thinking that it'll be okay if i have just one pint of ice cream and eat well otherwise. but i know as soon as my sugar monster is unleashed, i'll succumb to it and eat everything in sight. rational brain vs. addict brain

Ed92809f18ca70e360768b4f2c9c9df6

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on October 30, 2011
at 06:26 AM

horrible!! i thought i was going to have a heart attack -- that's how fast my heart was beating. i felt lightheaded and hot hot hot like i was in a sauna, probably because i was metabolizing all that sugar all at once. curiously, my appetite returned the next day...but for junk food. god knows how i got out of that cycle.

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on October 30, 2011
at 05:08 AM

+1 for perfect ice cream sub. Mmm!

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on October 30, 2011
at 05:07 AM

20....?? What was that like afterwards?

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on October 30, 2011
at 01:48 AM

20....... 20?

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on October 30, 2011
at 09:16 AM

Where to start...........

Wheat - No immediate issues but couple of hours later my stomach starts to hurt, I feel super bloated and so sleepy. The following day I'm usually fine in the morning, but then get stomach pains and really bad sugar/wheat cravings in the afternoon. Followed shortly by extreme fatigue. I had 2 of the most amazing cupcakes EVER on Friday night and paid for it all day yesterday, self inflicted but they were sooo good ;)

Dairy - I don't generally eat (it causes binge eating issues for me, especially butter) but when I do it's ice cream. I'm usually ok afterwards but the following day I will have sinus pain and a stuffed up nose.

Vegetable oils - I never eat them so have no idea how bad they effect me.

I'm finding that the longer I stay on the Paleo diet, the worse the 'after effects' of a cheat are....... Sometimes the enjoyment / social / general quality of life and enjoying friend's company outweighs the side effects, but I still kick myself the next day, sigh!!

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on October 30, 2011
at 04:23 PM

I'm also kind of a sugar/carbs addict -- paleo has mostly cured me, but I totally get the sequence of thoughts/behaviors you describe. "I'll just have one cookie -- they're homemade and have a lot of cocoa (good) and butter (fine) in them!" (Conveniently ignoring the wheat flour and white sugar they are also loaded with.) "Well, now I've had one, I might as well enjoy myself and have a couple more -- they're small!" "You know, these would be even better dipped in peanut butter -- and I've already had three cookies, might as well go for it!" And so on. I don't really get satiated from simple carbs, so this can go on FOR A WHILE.

As you may be able to tell, I have fallen off the wagon a couple of times recently. So the bad side effects are fresh in my mind:

  • Facial bloat
  • Abdominal bloat
  • Vague feelings of nausea/indigestion
  • Gas (when I eat "clean" I seriously don't fart or burp -- when I cheat, gah)
  • Increased joint & muscular pain (I take a medication that has osteoarthritis-like side effects, but my aches & pains have largely disappeared on paleo)
  • Fatigue (which may actually be feelings of depression expressing themselves as fatigue) which leads me to the worst side effect:
  • Feeling like crap about myself -- I just feel like a freaking idiot undoing all the hard work I've been doing for the sake of a few minutes of fleeting pleasure, KNOWING that I will be miserable the next day

Hope this helps. You're not alone!

8cbb06eb84dad8d2db56fcc4d8bdc0ba

on October 31, 2011
at 06:38 AM

this sounds so familiar! i have been falling off for the last two months, everytime i feel like i'm getting back on track, i get tempted again by a cookie or something, and hence beginw the downward spiral...and have put on 8lb in three weeks...hard to get back on track esp,. after one day of cheating, it takes several to 'recover'1

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D117467bf8e8472464ece2b81509606c

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on October 30, 2011
at 02:22 AM

My normally chiseled face swells up like a balloon if I eat vegetable oils and transfats. As a highly vain individual, I simply cannot allow myself to walk around in this world unless I am feeling 100% sexy.

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on October 30, 2011
at 04:17 PM

to be honest, i feel the same! but additionally, feeling energized on top of not bloated adds to the feeling of sexy for me :)

D117467bf8e8472464ece2b81509606c

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on October 30, 2011
at 04:50 PM

hell yeah! feeling bloated with no energy is the absolute pits...

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8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

on October 30, 2011
at 02:04 AM

Make your own homemade ice cream with at least organic (if not pastured) dairy. It is amazing without fillers! Just heavy cream, whole milk, sugar (I use half the sugar mentioned in all dessert recipes), vanilla extract, unsweetened cocoa powder. I dare you to find commercial ice cream that just has those few ingredients - most have so many fake ingredients and cheap fillers like gums, - even organic ones!

I've made vanilla, chocolate, and am now planning to make pumpkin pie (minus the gluten) ice cream!

I use the Cuisinart ICE 30 BC ice cream maker but you can use any electric one. It's very easy. You freeze a part for 24 hrs. The next day you pour the heavy cream, milk sugar, vanilla extract, and cocoa powder and blend for a few minutes in a blender. Then you pour the mix from the blender into the frozen part, now reinserted into the main ice cream maker. The ice cream maker churns it for about 25-35 min and it's done.

My hubby and I craved ice cream - only had it twice (both homemade) in our first 9 months of Paleo and then summer hit and we really wanted more, so I bought the maker.

Once you taste real ice cream you will never go back. It is pricier per quart. I realized the reason why ice cream is so cheap (like most American processed food), is they fill it with fillers, gums, and fake stuff. Even the organic stuff. Trust me. I grew in Texas and I ate ice cream as a kid at least once a week.

Now since homemade is costlier, you treasure it and only have one small scoop - it's so creamy it makes my hubby and I swoon. Full-fat dairy rocks! Most commercial ice cream is made with skim milk and lowfat milk so it's oxidized cholesterol! Whole dairy, full fat is never oxidized!

The hubby and I have never desired any ice cream but homemade now.

If you have dairy sensitivity, then there are recipes for coconut ice cream and you can still use the ice cream maker for that.

I forgot to list the bad responses to some food items: nothing for dairy

gluten me: constipation, bloating, mood swings, psoriasis, post-workout soreness about 50-70% increase

gluten hubby: allergies, snoring, nasal congestion, belching, gas, bloating, severe abdominal pain (depending on amount), diarrhea, depression, brain fog, mood swings, eye inflammation, recurrent pink eye, psoriasis, post-workout soreness about 50-70% increase, back rash/acne, hives

soy protein but not fermented soy or soy lecithin - gas, bloating, abdominal pain

Omega 6 oils: acne, dry eye too many legumes: gas, bloating, abdominal pain, muscle soreness

8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

(6259)

on October 31, 2011
at 02:30 AM

I forgot to list the bad responses to some food items: gluten me: constipation, bloating, mood swings, psoriasis, post-workout soreness about 50-70% increase gluten hubby: allergies, snoring, nasal congestion, belching, gas, bloating, severe abdominal pain (depending on amount), diarrhea, depression, brain fog, mood swings, eye inflammation, recurrent pink eye, psoriasis, post-workout soreness about 50-70% increase soy protein but not fermented soy or soy lecithin - gas, bloating, abdominal pain Omega 6 oils: acne, dry eye too many legumes: gas, bloating, abdominal pain, muscle soreness

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on October 30, 2011
at 02:27 AM

i have multiple sensitivies and get varied symptoms. most irritants will cause a strange bitter stinging sensation on the outside edges of my tongue. that is my warning to spit out whatever is in my mouth.

if i do not heed the warning some foods cause an immediate pain in my stomach. others cause bloating that swells my abdomen making it feel hard.

depending on how much of the offending item i have eaten, the following day or two or three i experience varying degrees of unwell that need not be described in detail.

my answer to i want ice cream is to blend a frozen banana with coconut milk and berries or ground cocoa nibs and flax seeds. who needs ben and jerry!

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on October 30, 2011
at 05:08 AM

+1 for perfect ice cream sub. Mmm!

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on October 30, 2011
at 02:03 AM

Get addicted to really dark chocolate like me and you will never want to eat ice cream again.

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:42 AM

I did and it made me want to never eat chocolate again.

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

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on October 31, 2011
at 12:40 PM

Good, quality, dark chocolate (70% or higher) is pretty much the only chocolate I like now. Hershey's chocolate is gross, even the "dark" kind. This didn't ruin ice cream for me, but I have no problem staying away from cheap and milk chocolates. 8)

Medium avatar

(2301)

on October 31, 2011
at 09:50 PM

I have gradually eaten darker and darker chocolate and now I can eat 99% without making faces. Hershey's is gross now.

8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

(6259)

on November 02, 2011
at 07:52 PM

I love Lindt dark chocolate, but I still wanted ice cream (apparently I can have my cream and eat it too (unlike cake!))

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on October 30, 2011
at 07:54 AM

Vegetable oils give me heartburn. Dairy is fine, but addictive. Wheat makes me bloated, lethargic and depressed. The worst by far is wheat.

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:54 PM

Ill tell you, because this happened to me recently. I was running behind, and dropped into the local casino for meat and greens. I can usually get by with this, but this day for whatever reason, I caved. Pizza, pasta, potatoes, sugar, you name it, it ended up on my plate.

  1. My face starts burning.
  2. I drop into a deep brain fog.
  3. I get sleepy.
  4. I drop off for 10 hours of sleep.
  5. My stomach makes horrible growling and gurgling sounds and I have montezumas revenge for two days.
  6. Every joint in my body aches.
  7. I spend a day feeling like complete crap, and two days craving carbs all over again.
  8. Three days later, assuming I havent caved again, after I survive the headaches, I start feeling human again.

It isnt worth it. I wish I could bring these symptoms back just for 5 minutes every time the devil on my left shoulder starts screaming for sugar.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 02, 2011
at 11:24 PM

Wow, what a perfect description of my most recent (hopefully final) foray into eating doughnuts.

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on October 30, 2011
at 08:51 PM

I eat ice cream all the time (...but not by the pint), I also eat a fair amount of raw cheeses, hard and soft, and Greek yogurt for a treat. I eat a lot of butter and heavy cream. Dairy is ok for me though drinking milk or eating lots of yogurt/kefir makes me feel a bit oogy, so I don't do it.

Wheat gives me instant severe bloating, pressure, and gas, blood sugar crashes, and an overactive colon and crazy farting for days after. Crappy veggie oils give me an 'icky' feeling right after eating, hard to describe, also often some stabbing/cramping pains in my upper GI tract or heartburn, and when I really overdo it, awful GERD with painful vomiting. I avoid the hell out of both.

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on October 30, 2011
at 04:52 PM

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh....the BLOOOAAAAAAT. And...bad breath. Immediate bad breath.

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:41 AM

Bad breath is my number one symptom. When my breath starts thinking I know something isn't agreeing with me.

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on October 30, 2011
at 01:32 PM

Wheat= phleghm the next am and mild wheeze

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on October 30, 2011
at 01:51 AM

Grab a pint and purposely stub your toe with each spoonful. You will soon be cured.

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on November 07, 2011
at 04:51 PM

Wheat: * Pimples all over my body, specially if I drink beer. * Stinky McFarty. * Loose stools. * Phlegm. * Immediately after eating it feels like I have heavy bricks on my stomach. * My thin wrists and ankles balloon. * My left knee and left wrist hurts (had problem with this before Paleo, never hurts unless I eat wheat). * Sticky teeth with starchy stuff stuck to it. Drinking or swishing with water doesn't make it go away. Takes a few days to a week to go away.

Dairy: * Bad diarrhea I can usually make that better by eating bananas. Fresh raw milk and cream doesn't bother me.

Veg Oils I don't know, I haven't had any since starting paleo, I think.

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on November 03, 2011
at 10:34 AM

Totally awful. Last weekend it was my kid's birthday and I ate a bit of the cake so as to appear "social" to my relatives. I thought I only ate a little bit of the frosting, which of course was probably not made with safe fats, but I thought I had avoided the cake itself. Boy was I wrong.

Within half an hour I got nasty cramps and was looking forward to getting home to visit the bathroom. Half an hour after that, had a second episode. Felt totally dehydrated within 10 minutes after that. Not doing that again. The hell with being social, let'em call me eccentric.

Also had all sorts of other symptoms for the next two days such as brain fog, tiredness, poor sleep. Not fun. Hopefully it didn't do a lot of damage.

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on November 08, 2011
at 04:42 AM

I'm pretty sure I've got celiac. My doctor agrees (DNA tests agree too).

About an hour after I eat even the smallest trace of gluten I get a mild stomach cramp. about 8-10 hours after ingestion, I get a severe stomach cramp and then a sudden urge to rush to the bathroom. I then spent the following 12-24 hours (depending on the amount of gluten) curled up in the fetal position when not on the toilet. The next 3 days I'm sluggish and achy all over.

bad oils and dairy don't seem to give me TOO much trouble as long as I don't overdo it. diary will give me bad gas if I go crazy (multiple scoops of ice cream, multiple glasses of milk in one day) and excessive vegetable oils tend to mess with my toilet habits.

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on November 07, 2011
at 05:16 PM

the first thing is DIARRHEA :( sorry

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on November 07, 2011
at 05:08 PM

i dont get it. if you want to eat ice cream just eat ice cream. and then make sure to eat your nutrients? no need to go crazy - want to eat MORE ice cream? just wait a day? is not that hard. if your nutrition is SOLID you really shouldn't suffer from any cravings whatsoever. now veg oils and gluten? there is no compromise there. that doesn't even classify as food to me!

edit. dairy is a huge part of my diet. ( milk, cheeses, butter, etc) not a single problem. veg oil and gluten? not a chance in hell.

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on November 07, 2011
at 07:06 PM

i wish i could just eat ice cream. it's my mindset that's disordered, being an all or nothing person

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on November 04, 2011
at 06:35 AM

Dairy, such as cream in a soup gives me a pinching pain in my upper stomach area about 30 minutes after eating it.

Dairy with sugar gives me that pain plus acne and bloating.

I haven't noticed an effect from vegetable oils.

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on November 04, 2011
at 03:27 AM

None whatsoever. My problem - and the problem of a lot of people who become obese - is that junk foods digest very easily. This leads to overeating them.

Think about it the Taubes way. Fructose makes us fat. That doesn't mean it's hard to digest, rather that it's easy to digest in mass quantities.

A lot of people who go VLC appear to get symptoms like bloating when they eat carbs above VLC levels. I've never done that. I've restricted high glycemics like dry cereal and white rice to control diabetes 2, but have never tried to exclude carbs as a class from my diet.

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on November 03, 2011
at 08:39 PM

Too much sugar makes my face feel hot, and makes me crave more sugar (of course). It also makes me cranky. When I think back after an argument with the husband, more often than not, I've cheated earlier that day. Shameful.

Wheat gives me stomach bloat if I have too much (more than say, one roll at a restaurant or family dinner). I also get acne from bread products.

Dairy is fine in moderation for me, but if I have too much, or if I stray from organic dairy, I get acne.

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:01 PM

After wheat, I get sleepy, bloated and flatulent. Not a little wheat tho, I can eat breaded stuff without problem tho, it seems that when I approach 2+ bread slices with meal that effect kicks in.

Sleepiness was bad. After each lunch, I was down. Bloating was hard only after overeating, which happened quite often. Now I can overeat and it doesn't happen.

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on October 31, 2011
at 12:50 PM

I don't know what to blame them on, but the majority of my headaches went away after I cut out processed foods and started eating real foods. My guess is the large amount of artificial/processed ingredients were working together to cause me pain. Most of my remaining headaches seem to be in sync with weather changes. Stupid weather.

Industrial oils give me heartburn. So does soda and dairy, but to a much lesser degree. I still consume full-fat dairy.

If I eat wheat once or just a small amount (small = one small piece of bread), I'm usually fine, but if I go overboard I get several symptoms: gas (along with other digestive side effects), overall body tenseness that usually results in a headache, joint pain, moodiness, and usually some extra paranoia on top.

Legumes also mess me up, similar to wheat.

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