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Starchy Veg + fat = bloating why?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 14, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Starchy Veg + fat = bloating why? I get less bloating from Starch Veg + Protein. Shouldn't it be the opposite?

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on November 14, 2011
at 11:57 PM

i eat starch with butter == same thing bloating

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on November 14, 2011
at 10:32 PM

i am the same way... i just listen to my body and adjust. dont assume b/c you read it it is true. your own reaction body are the ultimate determinants

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on November 14, 2011
at 10:11 PM

Yeah, I'm wondering if it's "starch plus fat" or actually coconut that you're having trouble with. Some people find nuts gassy.

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on November 14, 2011
at 08:44 PM

Silly question, probably, but do you bloat other times you have coconut? Not everyone thrives on it.

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on November 14, 2011
at 08:30 PM

it doesn't matter what time a day -- still get bloating. I usually have eggs with winter squash = no problem. But if I eat squash with coconut big problem. I have no problem when I eat non-starchy vegs ---such as greens with either fat or protein.

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4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on November 14, 2011
at 09:24 PM

My guess is SIBO (i.e., an overgrowth of the bacteria in your small intestine).

If I understand correctly, starch isn't a problem per se, but when you eat it with fat, it is. Can you confirm that fat also isn't a problem per se (i.e, you can eat fat alone without issue)? If so, I think you problem owes to the fact that fat slows digestion, causing the starch to spend more time in transit through the small intestine, giving the bacteria longer to start eating the starch...

Note that starch isn't the preferred fuel of gut bacteria (since people typically absorb it too quickly for the little buggers), but FODMAPS are definitely their thing... Thus FODMAPS should cause you more of a problem if my theory is correct. Can you confirm? Note that FODMAPS, if problematic, generally start causing problems from 1-3 hours post meal and can lead to bacterial overgrowth that results in problems lasting much longer.)

If all of this is consistent with your experience, my recommendation to deal with SIBO is simple: starve the bugs off with a zero carb diet for 2 or 3 days, then introduce starch slowly, avoiding FODMAPS as much as possible. After a while, test what your FODMAP tolerance is by adding in some potentially troublesome items (since going FODMAP-free long-term is too restrictive and may lead to nutrient deficiencies if you're not careful). Lastly, for a quick fix, note that certain spices, like ginger in particular, increase the speed of digestion and should mitigate the problem a bit. (But, don't overdo the ginger either since it can have some side-effects, like insomnia, anxiety, and heart palpitations.)

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on November 14, 2011
at 08:28 PM

Starch causes bloating for me with/without protein, with/without fat. Your case may be different.

Do you usually eat meat with fat before eating the starch? Are you eating non-starchy vegetables with the starch?

What time of day are you eating the meal that includes starch?

0d2b1ff450021cca6683e4cecf2d6aec

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on November 14, 2011
at 11:57 PM

i eat starch with butter == same thing bloating

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on November 14, 2011
at 08:44 PM

Silly question, probably, but do you bloat other times you have coconut? Not everyone thrives on it.

F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

(11698)

on November 14, 2011
at 10:11 PM

Yeah, I'm wondering if it's "starch plus fat" or actually coconut that you're having trouble with. Some people find nuts gassy.

9055f14c31610afd4d3068ec48eb6d90

(984)

on November 14, 2011
at 08:30 PM

it doesn't matter what time a day -- still get bloating. I usually have eggs with winter squash = no problem. But if I eat squash with coconut big problem. I have no problem when I eat non-starchy vegs ---such as greens with either fat or protein.

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