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Turmeric: good, bad, indifferent?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 11, 2011 at 3:35 PM

According to Douglas Kalman MS, RD, FACN, many herbs have a deleterious effect on testosterone levels. Many extol the benefits of turmeric but in light of the following data(from the above source) would turmeric be a wise addition to the testosterone-concious dieter?

Micrograms of Estradiol Equivalents/200 cc or 2 gm Dry Herb Soy milk 8/200cc Licorice 4/2 gm Red Clover 3 Mandrake 3 Bloodroot 2 Thyme 2 Yucca 0.5 Turmeric 0.5 Hops 0.5 Verbenna 0.5 Yellow Dock 0.5 Sheep Sorrel 0.5

Micrograms of Progesterone Equivalents/2 g Dry Herb Bloodroot 100 Ocotillo 8 Mandrake 8 Oregano 8 Damiana 6 Pennyroyal 5 Verbena 5 Nutmeg 4 Turmeric 4 Yucca 4 Thyme 4 Calamus Root 3 Red Clover 3 Goldenseal 3 Licorice 3 Mistletoe 3 Cumin 2 Fennel 2 Camomille 2 Cloves

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on August 14, 2011
at 08:56 AM

If proper context is that important I would not put it in the water supply.

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:30 PM

I thought so too but heard otherwise. Perhaps the research is just propaghanda to get people to buy products and stay away from hjealthy alternatives?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:13 PM

Not when it's done in proper context person man.....turmeric is a good thing. It's like fire....without it your life would suck.....too much and you life may be over with your house and possessions!

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on August 12, 2011
at 08:46 PM

+1 I'm all about a grammar-correcting post.

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on August 12, 2011
at 02:18 AM

To be honest, I don't think Tumeric has substantial affect on chest fat. It's a staple spice of every Indian dish but I've seen numerous Indian men with this problem, especially in old age. If the article is correct, I'd really like to see the studies they used.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 12, 2011
at 01:43 AM

Good, the right answer! I thought it was either/or reduction or enhancement...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 12, 2011
at 12:30 AM

'He' shows it not I...the study is pretty common on lots of sites.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 12, 2011
at 12:29 AM

but does it decrease test?...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 12, 2011
at 12:29 AM

how significant are spices for nutritional augmentation of a diet anyway...

09c1f18b662aa13e7b2c072c1b105a41

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on August 11, 2011
at 11:37 PM

You haven't shown that it reduces T at all yet...

09c1f18b662aa13e7b2c072c1b105a41

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on August 11, 2011
at 10:49 PM

I don't see anything about testosterone there....

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on August 11, 2011
at 09:56 PM

All for flavor. I think the good flavor of the za'atar is from the sumac. Don't know about the negative effect of turmeric on testosterone, but take a look at www.man-boobs-begone.com for someting about a positive effect. Or for laughs, your choice.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 11, 2011
at 09:32 PM

pourquoi za'atar? Second cinnamon. But would you know if turmeric(or tumeric however its spelled) does/doesn't drecrease testosterone levels?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 11, 2011
at 07:49 PM

If it reduces testosterone levels how doesn't this amount to a black mark that would make the prudent(and testosterone concious) reduce intake?

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on August 11, 2011
at 05:04 PM

Amen. Plus +1 from me. Turmeric is a wonderful anti-inflammatory. I love the stuff.

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on August 11, 2011
at 05:03 PM

I have a certain aversion to drinking bright yellow fluids. :-)

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on August 11, 2011
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PersonMan - you've posted enough question now that you should know that you need line spaces between your lines of text. Do you see how your formatting came out?

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PersonMan - you've posted enough question now that you should know that you need line spaces between your lines of text. Do you see how your formatting came out? Please fix it.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 11, 2011
at 04:45 PM

Turmeric should be in the water supply in my view.

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on August 14, 2011
at 08:56 AM

If proper context is that important I would not put it in the water supply.

518464630b1876e6c41418185dad0912

(305)

on August 11, 2011
at 05:03 PM

I have a certain aversion to drinking bright yellow fluids. :-)

16e617676c5ac710e5235e0b773edc0b

(2640)

on August 11, 2011
at 05:04 PM

Amen. Plus +1 from me. Turmeric is a wonderful anti-inflammatory. I love the stuff.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on August 12, 2011
at 12:30 AM

'He' shows it not I...the study is pretty common on lots of sites.

09c1f18b662aa13e7b2c072c1b105a41

(330)

on August 11, 2011
at 11:37 PM

You haven't shown that it reduces T at all yet...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on August 11, 2011
at 07:49 PM

If it reduces testosterone levels how doesn't this amount to a black mark that would make the prudent(and testosterone concious) reduce intake?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on August 12, 2011
at 10:13 PM

Not when it's done in proper context person man.....turmeric is a good thing. It's like fire....without it your life would suck.....too much and you life may be over with your house and possessions!

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on August 12, 2011
at 03:51 AM

Regardless of opinions regarding the actual science surrounding turmeric, despite how misunderstood body systems are to this day, I wish we could all at minimum at least spell and pronounce it correctly.

It's TuRmeric, not tuMeric.

It has always been tuRmeric, and never tuMeric.

Yes, folks, that's two Rs, one before the 'M' sound, another before the 'ic' sound.

And there are lots and lots of scholarly studies out there on turmeric. That's not to say that those studies, like many others don't or can't hold bias, but turmeric doesn't have Big Agribi$ or other financial assets behind it, at least not as far as I know. I'm not providing any links, as the research is out there and you can find it on your own and judge accordingly.

Me? As I mentioned in another reply earlier, I'm looking for more ways to incorporate tuRmeric into my diet, but I also eat veggies and fish in similar proportions to meat, which other people here don't do, so to each their own.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: we're all different, so there isn't one magic bullet diet that will fit us all.

Maybe tuRmeric does harm some people, the same way milk products or gluten products ruin some of us, while it makes others thrive. If you study natural selection for long enough, the concept of some foods being good for some while bad for others doesn't seem so strange.

No magic bullets.

Perhaps we survive based on what works AND what is available. Perhaps we thrive when we're eating what is best for us individually, not whatever is handy.

Perhaps we would all do better at eating what is available seasonally, which is probably how our ancestors lived. And probably more effort than most of us are willing to think out much less live out, and since we're really not the same as our paleo ancestors, it may or may not matter.

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on August 12, 2011
at 08:46 PM

+1 I'm all about a grammar-correcting post.

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16e617676c5ac710e5235e0b773edc0b

on August 12, 2011
at 12:41 AM

According to this article it's been known to raise testosterone levels, not reduce them:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11526885/The-Truth-About-Turmeric-for-Gynecomastia

Apparently other sources say it balances hormones in women and does reduce testosterone but I've never heard of that being an issue for men who consume it (i.e., much of India/Asia).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on August 12, 2011
at 01:43 AM

Good, the right answer! I thought it was either/or reduction or enhancement...

97c04f87a752ff0a5cf6be9d806c0334

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on August 12, 2011
at 02:18 AM

To be honest, I don't think Tumeric has substantial affect on chest fat. It's a staple spice of every Indian dish but I've seen numerous Indian men with this problem, especially in old age. If the article is correct, I'd really like to see the studies they used.

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on August 11, 2011
at 10:17 PM

I make a meat stew every Sunday and my spices are tumeric, cinnamon & allspice - mmmmmmmm.

Tumeric is antibacterial, liver detoxifier, anti-inflammatory, speeds wound healing (in India tumeric is applied to bandages to help woulds heal).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on August 12, 2011
at 12:29 AM

but does it decrease test?...

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on August 11, 2011
at 07:52 PM

If turmeric were in the water you could make yellow snow with your icemaker. I use a lot of it, along with za'atar and cinnamon. More bark, more flavor.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on August 11, 2011
at 09:32 PM

pourquoi za'atar? Second cinnamon. But would you know if turmeric(or tumeric however its spelled) does/doesn't drecrease testosterone levels?

Medium avatar

(10611)

on August 11, 2011
at 09:56 PM

All for flavor. I think the good flavor of the za'atar is from the sumac. Don't know about the negative effect of turmeric on testosterone, but take a look at www.man-boobs-begone.com for someting about a positive effect. Or for laughs, your choice.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on August 12, 2011
at 12:29 AM

how significant are spices for nutritional augmentation of a diet anyway...

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on August 11, 2011
at 05:01 PM

I agree with the quilt :-)

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on August 12, 2011
at 08:05 PM

I know you eat a lot of cholesterol (as do I), this is probably a good herb to include in your diet. It doesn't make sense to me though, that something that would upregulate LDL receptors would adversely affect t levels?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18704882

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:30 PM

I thought so too but heard otherwise. Perhaps the research is just propaghanda to get people to buy products and stay away from hjealthy alternatives?

0
776cf39df980711e80fc02317eb64649

(892)

on August 12, 2011
at 05:08 AM

I'd be more concerned with the link between tumeric and male balding...

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