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Have you seen THIS DOCUMENTARY? I am now freaking out about GMO's

Answered on February 24, 2014
Created February 23, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Here's the link: http://documentaryheaven.com/seeds-of-death/

Now, I LOVE science. I'm also a big fan of genetic engineering. So far I may have deluded myself into not worrying too much about GMO in the food supply. But this isn't about science and it's not about research saving lives and improving yields. This is about profit hungry corporations and corrupt governments destroying America's food supply and, one day, the world.

Some of the things they say in this documentary may not be 100% accurate. For instance, correct me if I'm wrong, but eating a genetically modified crop will not modify your own genes; that sounds kind of stupid. None the less, they make a lot of valid points here and I'd like to get some opinions from the rest of you.

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on February 24, 2014
at 03:00 PM

unless it's jaws of death -- then you need to worry.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on February 24, 2014
at 01:08 PM

Yup, they were grasses before where the seeds were sparse and would easily spread. The modification was to have the seeds clump together and not easily spread, allowing for cultivation (and of course celiac disease, land slavery/serfdom, etc.)

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on February 24, 2014
at 12:50 PM

I don't know maan, there's some serious porn with names like BLANK of death.... seeeerious pooorrrrrn. :-D

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on February 24, 2014
at 12:04 PM

I do believe GM salmon was a disaster, produced unusual physical mutations, and bad media. I don't think that ever reached the market. Most salmon either comes form canada, or new zealand, and I can assume you that none of the stuff in NZ is gm at least. Salmon is very hard to farm, requires very specific salt and fresh water combinations with a set range of temperatures.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on February 24, 2014
at 11:27 AM

Yup, it's not about science, it's about patentability and profits at any cost.

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on February 24, 2014
at 10:30 AM

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24432015

as well. My comment wasn't meant to say it would definitely happen, just that, even if rare, it was possible. I'll try to find the article I read about this, but I believe that it referenced an HGT with bacteria outside a lab. Does that mean it will change us? So far, no. There haven't been any verifiable cases. But we're early in the game. Consider that just this year we're finding possible links between DDT and Alzheimer's disease (see link below). Time will tell.

http://archneur.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1816015

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on February 24, 2014
at 07:43 AM

Yes and the what people eat was modified by our ancestors when they moved to carbs already into big not tiny wheat. So in a sense we started the harm then 10,000 years ago. We modified crops.

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on February 24, 2014
at 03:12 AM

Well you'd silly to worry about anti-nutrients or xenoestrogens etc, and then happily change the food matrix of a food, by altering its whole phytochemical metabolism via new protein coding from transgenetic alterations IMO. I think of all the concerns, the complex chemical interactions, between existing metabolism, and then new gene, something impossible to predict ATM, is the one that sticks out to me.

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on February 24, 2014
at 02:16 AM

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on February 24, 2014
at 02:01 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/12/gmo-wheat-lawsuit-idaho_n_3430961.html

Plaintiffs (a group of American wheat farmers) say Monsanto's failure to contain the wheat amounts to "wrongful conduct" that has potentially contaminated "the entire wheat farming and production chain," and places many wheat farmers at risk for continued harm through cross-pollination and contamination of their crops.

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on February 24, 2014
at 01:57 AM

wheat isnt GMO

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on February 24, 2014
at 01:04 AM

I'll take away the downvote if you actually link to a legit site/study that support such a statement.

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on February 24, 2014
at 05:54 PM

That documentary really opened my eyes as well (as did "The World According to Monsanto" and "Food, Inc.") And you should be concerned about GMOs/GEs because they are in 95% of the food we eat, and Monsanto has come out and said that they want to control 100% of the world's seed supply! And with corn, soy, canola, sugar (beets) and wheat in literally everything, you really have to do your research on the foods you eat. Organic truly is the ONLY way to go. Most larger grocery stores have some organic foods, but if you want to be sure, then you'll have to hit up a Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Sprouts, and the like.

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on February 24, 2014
at 11:25 AM

Yes, you should be afraid of GMOs. That said, most GMOs aren't stuff us Paleos would eat. Corn is a grain, and soy is a legume (and whether organic, or GMO, soy is possibly one of the worst things you could eat if you care about your health.)

The problem with corn is that it produces BT toxin internally, so it's as if you were consuming tons of this pesticide, on top of that these things are designed to be used with tons of RoudUp so they can kill everything else in the fields in which they grow, so you're likely to ingest far more pesticide residue if you ever consume them.

There are some GMOs that are sadly paleo ("Hawaiian papayas", squash, zucchini, sugar beets), so you have to be careful to buy those only when they're organic.

Not sure if the arctic apple abomination has made it to market yet, but if you find any apple that doesn't go brown when cut, never buy that brand again. (After all, when an apple goes brown, that's an indicator that it has oxidized, and that its antioxidants are functioning properly - an apple that never oxidizes is probably useless as an antioxidant source.) At least in this case, it's easy to figure out when it's a GMO.

There is also the possibility of GMO salmon that has far more growth hormone endogenously, so as long as you avoid farmed salmon, you avoid this issue (except in cases of farmed salmon fraudulently sold as wild caught.)

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on February 24, 2014
at 12:04 PM

I do believe GM salmon was a disaster, produced unusual physical mutations, and bad media. I don't think that ever reached the market. Most salmon either comes form canada, or new zealand, and I can assume you that none of the stuff in NZ is gm at least. Salmon is very hard to farm, requires very specific salt and fresh water combinations with a set range of temperatures.

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on February 24, 2014
at 01:54 AM

Don't eat wheat or corn or soy (oh, dam, we already do that). Oh well, carry on :)

6fece842bd1bcf5724f458a302a2156e

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on February 24, 2014
at 07:43 AM

Yes and the what people eat was modified by our ancestors when they moved to carbs already into big not tiny wheat. So in a sense we started the harm then 10,000 years ago. We modified crops.

2eb1b3e896624be5506029e3fec3e9e2

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on February 24, 2014
at 01:57 AM

wheat isnt GMO

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on February 24, 2014
at 12:39 AM

For instance, correct me if I'm wrong, but eating a genetically modified crop will not modify your own genes; that sounds kind of stupid.

Some GM plants have shown transgenic properties. I can't remember the particular plant that raised concerns about this, but yes, that is a possibility.

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on February 24, 2014
at 01:04 AM

I'll take away the downvote if you actually link to a legit site/study that support such a statement.

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on February 23, 2014
at 10:08 PM

I would make a point to not to take any documentary named "BLANK of death" very seriously.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on February 24, 2014
at 03:00 PM

unless it's jaws of death -- then you need to worry.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on February 24, 2014
at 12:50 PM

I don't know maan, there's some serious porn with names like BLANK of death.... seeeerious pooorrrrrn. :-D

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