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Have you given Paleo a bad name? AKA What is the rudest thing you have ever said DEFENDING Paleo?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created October 29, 2010 at 5:09 PM

Time for a social interaction question!

If you have ever had your tolerance or manners slip, and you used rude speech or actions to make the point that you don't do certain Neolithic things or eat certain foods...

I'd like to read about:

1: What provoked you?

2: What you said or did?

3: Were there any regrets, push-back, or repercussions?

4: How do you think you could have handled it better?

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on March 14, 2012
at 07:27 PM

Maybe that's why she has reactive hypoglycemia?

B3c62d89cd47b7d7209b6a99243d0ded

(10778)

on October 30, 2010
at 11:18 AM

Someone pointed out the possible confusion of my question's title, so I clarified it.

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on October 30, 2010
at 05:54 AM

Don't worry about being "polite" when they keep offering you things you don't eat. They know it, it's not a secret, just say no and expect them to respect that. How polite is it for them to keep offering things that you consider unhealthy and don't want?

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on October 30, 2010
at 05:51 AM

To some, that approach is good. To others, their traditions are only realized back as far as the mid 1800s... as in bean bread and fry bread. And yes, the white half of my family that came and "civilized" the brown half at the point of a gun... then tried to make up for it with "free" health care... have effectively killed the population because natural selection no longer happens and no adaptation takes place. Go ahead, politely tell them. You just may save someone's life.

Ea776df66c8277321b167e2ee3f22574

(316)

on October 29, 2010
at 09:30 PM

Do you know what one of the most common ingredients in Halloween candy-type-chocolate? Candle wax! They put it in there so the 'chocolate' (if you can call it that) doesn't melt! Knowing this makes it a lot easier to pass up!

03f5a69fde4012b827ebdb6d93b71e7a

(2007)

on October 29, 2010
at 09:20 PM

lol, I've had almost the same conversation... "but these are healthy! gluten free, organic agave nectar, and vegan!" Dude, you had me (almost) til the last one... :P

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on October 29, 2010
at 06:01 PM

Yeah, I correct people farrr too often.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:57 PM

Ouch, that has got to be a population that is especially ill adapted to all the starch and sugar. We see a lot of natives at my work as well, and they are many of them much fatter than the regular population. Makes me want to tell them they could be so healthy if they only ate what their ancestors ate! But of course, that would be rude so I don't. However, I often wonder if the 'go back to your traditions' take on it might go over better because many natives tend to respect their traditions more than other groups. Don't eat that white man food cuz it'll kill ya! ;-)

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:49 PM

One of the ER docs kept offering me cake she'd baked. After politely saying no for the 30th time (it seemed like that much), I asked her, "why are you trying to kill me?" This did lead to an interesting discussion about ancestral eating when I said that and pointed out exactly where we were standing in the world and the diseases we deal with daily because of eating habits... She's actually interested and is starting to see the light now. Interesting that a physician hasn't a clue about this eh? But then, most don't.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:40 PM

Yeah,I have to watch that. I've actually gotten to the point where I don't think about if someone is fat or not and I am not super skinny either. But other people are more sensitive so I need to be more careful. Once in a while i've said things like "THose things make me fat!" and then realized I need to reword that a bit..

2f653fa504adc81612619106e7d1f65e

(455)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:38 PM

well you are brave to say that to them, but when you have a passion for a certain subject it makes a lot of sense to push forward with it. Also your blunt response might make them think more about it later after they've left you and impact them more, so good for you.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:38 PM

LMAO! OK, I've said that sentence too. Luckily, my coworkers are not easily offended and often just tease me back in kind.

2f653fa504adc81612619106e7d1f65e

(455)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:21 PM

LOL.............

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0034e877123279fd4e16347f9829e514

on October 30, 2010
at 02:56 PM

I told some one that grains were food for slaves. The invention of domesticated grains was the the beginning of civilizations founded on slavery and forced labor whether it was government instituted servitude or capitalist it was still slavery, toil for food and the elite takes some for themselves. You are fed but never free.

Like Mao said all political power flows from the barrel of a gun, well initially in human history it likely dripped from a sword.

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95601768ec9cb75cc3a9cbcd2271ed14

(2206)

on October 29, 2010
at 07:26 PM

The last time somebody offered me a cupcake I politely said "Oh, no thanks, I'm not really eating baked goods these days." The person offering then responded by saying "But they are vegan!" Then I slipped and kind of rudely said "Oh, then I definitely don't want one!" whereupon the proud little baker looked crushed and I had to explain that I found vegan margarine much more unhealthy than butter and that all cupcakes, vegan or no, affected my blood sugar in uncomfortable ways. I later realized this was adding insult to injury since I knew the woman offering the cupcake has pretty bad reactive hypoglycemia.

03f5a69fde4012b827ebdb6d93b71e7a

(2007)

on October 29, 2010
at 09:20 PM

lol, I've had almost the same conversation... "but these are healthy! gluten free, organic agave nectar, and vegan!" Dude, you had me (almost) til the last one... :P

B8592e62f9804ddabae73c1103d6bcb9

(1956)

on March 14, 2012
at 07:27 PM

Maybe that's why she has reactive hypoglycemia?

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89e238284ccb95b439edcff9e123671e

(10299)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:31 PM

As a physical therapist, when patients do not take my advice for (physical) lifestyle changes, very often paleo inspired, I'm often deliberately rude, to make my point. I say something like this: 'Well you are the one with back pain, not me, so why don't you keep doing what you've been doing these last years, it won't hurt my back."

Sometimes I use my favourite Einstein quote: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Of course, this depends on the person, I wouldn't say this to everybody. But sometimes you mis-judge... Luckily only two patients so far were hurt a bit. And afterwards we discussed what I meant, and actually they did get the point...

2f653fa504adc81612619106e7d1f65e

(455)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:38 PM

well you are brave to say that to them, but when you have a passion for a certain subject it makes a lot of sense to push forward with it. Also your blunt response might make them think more about it later after they've left you and impact them more, so good for you.

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095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:46 PM

At work...pretty much daily. We work 24-48 hour shifts and during that time, live together like a big family. We get pretty close and say to one another pretty much whatever is on our mind. When being questioned about why I won't eat what they eat, I often say, "so I don't look like you." Working on an Indian reservation, with the rampant diabetes, autoimmune disease, renal failure, etc... getting the message across about the importance of eating better precludes politeness. They are slowly learning. Well, some of them are...others just offer a good natured, "F*#k you" and continue eating pizza.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:57 PM

Ouch, that has got to be a population that is especially ill adapted to all the starch and sugar. We see a lot of natives at my work as well, and they are many of them much fatter than the regular population. Makes me want to tell them they could be so healthy if they only ate what their ancestors ate! But of course, that would be rude so I don't. However, I often wonder if the 'go back to your traditions' take on it might go over better because many natives tend to respect their traditions more than other groups. Don't eat that white man food cuz it'll kill ya! ;-)

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on October 30, 2010
at 05:51 AM

To some, that approach is good. To others, their traditions are only realized back as far as the mid 1800s... as in bean bread and fry bread. And yes, the white half of my family that came and "civilized" the brown half at the point of a gun... then tried to make up for it with "free" health care... have effectively killed the population because natural selection no longer happens and no adaptation takes place. Go ahead, politely tell them. You just may save someone's life.

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A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:28 PM

Yesterday a co-worker said she doesn't worry about colds because she takes vitamin C. I instantly responded with "Studies show that vitamin C has no effect on colds. Vitamin D on the other hand... blah blah blah"

Looking back I was behaving boorish and rude (even if correct).

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on October 29, 2010
at 06:01 PM

Yeah, I correct people farrr too often.

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2f653fa504adc81612619106e7d1f65e

on October 29, 2010
at 05:15 PM

Only my nearest and dearest even know I am on a paleo journey...this place (as in paleo hacks) is about the only time I can discuss and get help or give it. So far it has been an exciting and fun journey into health and wellness. When I see others talk about getting sick or whatnot, I don't offer anything. Those that know me will hopefully come forward if they want to try it. I'm not about to try and "shove it down their throat" though I would like to~!

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6fa48935d439390e223b9a053a62c981

(1676)

on October 29, 2010
at 07:17 PM

I was offered a donut several years ago and said "no, if I eat that donut today, tomorrow I wear it around my waist." Chubbo looked at his own half-eaten donut and then at me. Oops.

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62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:50 PM

The weird part is that people at work keep offering me candy and junk food all the time! There are only a few of us at work and I end up having to say many times per week that I don't eat those. The end result is I get lazier and lazier about keeping it really polite. You would think they would know by now, but maybe eating junk is just so natural for most people that they can't remember that some of us don't. Or it is beyond their comprehension.

My boss especially likes to buy really cheap crappy quality cakes from vons and make a big display about giving it to the employees. And several weeks ago, he started putting halloween candy in baskets all over the place. Ick! Thankfully, he ran out of chocolate so the temptation level also is now gone. The boss also likes to buy cookies and leave them everywhere. I think part of it is his sneaky plan to have cookies in the workplace while still letting his wife believe they are not for him because she put him on a diet. He always buys his favorite kinds of food and puts it all over the store but ostensibly, they are for 'us' hehe. However, if they were for us, then he would probably be asking us what we like instead of buying what he likes.

Ea776df66c8277321b167e2ee3f22574

(316)

on October 29, 2010
at 09:30 PM

Do you know what one of the most common ingredients in Halloween candy-type-chocolate? Candle wax! They put it in there so the 'chocolate' (if you can call it that) doesn't melt! Knowing this makes it a lot easier to pass up!

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on October 30, 2010
at 05:54 AM

Don't worry about being "polite" when they keep offering you things you don't eat. They know it, it's not a secret, just say no and expect them to respect that. How polite is it for them to keep offering things that you consider unhealthy and don't want?

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F039bd53524aaf9d88e2dca6ae8a80c5

(20)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:29 PM

i get offered bagels every morning they asked why i refuse i said "those things will kill you!" i got some dirty looks from the bagel eaters (everyone but me)

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:38 PM

LMAO! OK, I've said that sentence too. Luckily, my coworkers are not easily offended and often just tease me back in kind.

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:49 PM

One of the ER docs kept offering me cake she'd baked. After politely saying no for the 30th time (it seemed like that much), I asked her, "why are you trying to kill me?" This did lead to an interesting discussion about ancestral eating when I said that and pointed out exactly where we were standing in the world and the diseases we deal with daily because of eating habits... She's actually interested and is starting to see the light now. Interesting that a physician hasn't a clue about this eh? But then, most don't.

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4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

on October 29, 2010
at 05:18 PM

I turned down a donut by telling a fat person, "pass, those make you fat"... Only realizing after that it sounded like a personal attack... Oops

2f653fa504adc81612619106e7d1f65e

(455)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:21 PM

LOL.............

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on October 29, 2010
at 05:40 PM

Yeah,I have to watch that. I've actually gotten to the point where I don't think about if someone is fat or not and I am not super skinny either. But other people are more sensitive so I need to be more careful. Once in a while i've said things like "THose things make me fat!" and then realized I need to reword that a bit..

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