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Hydrophilic Colloid Diet?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 01, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Okay, this is a long winded yet simple question. I'll start off by prefacing why I'm asking this.

  • Dolphins are mammals, like us humans and they need water to survive, but like humans, can't drink seawater. Dolphins get all the water they need from the food they eat, fish.
  • McDonalds gets a bad rap on their food. People have made fun of the fact that mcdonald's food never decays, it could be in your back-seat for a week and you'd think it was from breakfast. McDonalds responded to this by saying

Bacteria and mold only grow under certain conditions. For example, without sufficient moisture - either in the food itself or the environment in which it is held - bacteria and mold and associated decomposition, is unlikely. If food is/or becomes dry enough, it won't grow mold or bacteria. In fact, any food purchased from a restaurant or grocery store or prepared at home that lacks moisture would also dehydrate and see similar results if left in the same environment.

Basically saying that they do an exceptional job of removing any water from the food products.

Later he promoted a Hydrophilic Colloid Diet where he specifically advocates gelatin (This one is a great read and was very hard to find): http://www.ppnf.org/about-ppnf/about-drs-price-and-pottenger/11-mainsitecontent/resources-section/50-hydrophilic-colloidal-diet .


So my question then is:

What is the relevance of a Hydrophilic Colloid Diet in the human condition if any?

(Note: Hydrophilic means attracted to water).

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on March 07, 2013
at 04:43 PM

I was commenting on the link you posted in your question. If the supporting material to your question is bad science, then it's not even worth answering the question.

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on March 07, 2013
at 05:23 AM

Jack doesn't recommend a water rich/hydrophilic colloid rich diet specifically anywhere in his blogs. Your answer is a straw man and doesn't answer my question.

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on March 06, 2013
at 11:27 PM

Needs more electrons! Happy ones at that!

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on March 06, 2013
at 04:44 PM

I edited my comment.

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on March 06, 2013
at 03:02 PM

Thanks for answering, so are you saying a Hydrophilic Colloid Diet is or is not relevant to human health?

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on March 05, 2013
at 01:55 AM

Lol Mike .

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on March 05, 2013
at 12:24 AM

Can we rename the "Featured" tab to the "Stephen" tab? :)

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on March 04, 2013
at 01:09 AM

As far as I can tell, the only folks involved are Pottenger, WAP and now Kruse. A crowd that does not really inspire confidence.

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on March 02, 2013
at 06:15 PM

You have no reason to believe it's anything more than a fringe idea, or you have reason to believe it's nothing more than a fringe idea. And I don't know what exactly is fringe about better digestion and a calmer gastrointestinal tract. What exactly is it that you are calling fringe here?

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on March 02, 2013
at 05:23 PM

@Stephen, I have no reason to believe it's nothing more than some fringe idea.

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on March 02, 2013
at 01:24 PM

@Mscott, Yea, I mean that's the thing, a hydrophilic colloid rich diet doesn't just mean eat more gelatin by any means. In this study Pottenger goes through several hydrophilic colloids and says why he chose gelatin out of the list because he found it worked the best: http://www.ppnf.org/about-ppnf/about-drs-price-and-pottenger/11-mainsitecontent/resources-section/50-hydrophilic-colloidal-diet . But even gelatin would only even be recommended to somebody who doesn't get a significant enough portion of hydrophilic colloids in their diet for digestion, possibly by eating a raw food diet.

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on March 02, 2013
at 08:29 AM

What about eating pectin? Or carregeenan? These don't seem to help as much as gelatin.

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on March 02, 2013
at 02:54 AM

@Matt, do you have reason to believe that a Hydrophilic Colloid rich diet is not relevant to good health in humans?

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on March 02, 2013
at 02:08 AM

Gotta love the gelatin hype in the paleosphere... right up there with fermented foods!

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on March 02, 2013
at 01:46 AM

Yes, if you have gut troubles try incorporating some high quality Gelatin. But even more relavant is the idea that raw foods are hydrophilic while cooked foods tend towards being more hydrophobic, so even if you don't (to your knowledge) have any gut problems, if you are eating a non-raw-food diet then incorporating hydrophilic foods with your hydrophobic meals would likely be a good idea for most people. This would support the general paleo support for bone broths, eating the whole animal and eating whole foods.

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on March 02, 2013
at 12:35 AM

So...cliff notes...eat a bunch of gelatin if you have gut troubles and see what happens?

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on March 07, 2013
at 12:25 AM

This is one of those questions that requires a national research grant. Like $500,000 apiece to each of several research teams. Assuming no one has done the studies. Preferably upon a prison population.

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on March 06, 2013
at 09:29 PM

I'm sorry but as soon as someone starts bringing up quantum mechanics when talking about biochemistry, I lose all respect. It's true biology is really biochemistry which is really chemistry which is really physics which is really quantum mechanics; however, you use the level of abstraction for the science you're working with. Going to a more deep level of detail just confuses the problem. (And, yes I am a quantum mechanic.)

That 66 page blog post (I quit reading after page 1) is just a bunch of woo and trying to sounds smart.

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on March 07, 2013
at 04:43 PM

I was commenting on the link you posted in your question. If the supporting material to your question is bad science, then it's not even worth answering the question.

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on March 06, 2013
at 11:27 PM

Needs more electrons! Happy ones at that!

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on March 07, 2013
at 05:23 AM

Jack doesn't recommend a water rich/hydrophilic colloid rich diet specifically anywhere in his blogs. Your answer is a straw man and doesn't answer my question.

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on March 06, 2013
at 01:55 PM

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on March 06, 2013
at 04:44 PM

I edited my comment.

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on March 06, 2013
at 03:02 PM

Thanks for answering, so are you saying a Hydrophilic Colloid Diet is or is not relevant to human health?

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