I currently feel most alive around 7:00 - 8:00 p.m., when the sky turns dark.
Sunrise, in summer, is currently around 5:30 - 5;45 a.m.?? Sometime before, or slightly after that, I sense a temperature drop. Sometime around then, my energy is extremely tired, I feel starving (even if I just ate), and sleep by 7:00-8:00 a.m. is pretty much mandatory, lest I stumble into a car in the street.
This reaction appears to occur regardless of how much sleep I have had (although I am unsure about waking up right then -- I believe that, when I do, I wake up exhausted/tired/starving and needing to sleep more.)
Edit: Eating more can often sustain me for a little while, but I inevitably need to sleep soon afterward. Occasionally, an early morning walk (when it is still cool and blueish out) or a later-morning walk (when the sun is warm and the sky yellow-white) have made me feel more awake, but I have not stayed out long enough to test whether I could stay awake.]
I am often awake during the nights only, though my schedule is very free. It has been like this since (often being awake during the nights) around October of 2011, with spurts of months of waking in the day and sleeping at night, or varying sleep durations/times, especially when working in little to no sunlight in the first winter. Sometimes (often until recently) I have gotten little sunlight, and the drapes are mostly closed save for two smaller windows, but the blueish light of daybreak or after-dawn is clearly visible through them.
Somehow, I suspect the blueish light and/or temperature drop have something to do with my odd reaction.??
I usually feel better around 2:00-3:00 p.m., and sometimes as early as 12:00.
I also seem to experience this slightly less when not under any stresses but do still seem to feel tired/hungry/unclear/needing to sleep around this time regardless.
Has something happened to my circadian rhythm or hormones?
Why do I often feel like I have about 8-12 hours in my day at most?
[Edit: I will, hopefully, be going out around noon more often to readapt to sunlight properly and produce more Vitamin D. But, I have not undertaken this regularly yet.
However, any insights would be greatly appreciated, as it is rather inconvenient and ineffective to have my energy levels tank at the beginning of daybreak and not fully recover until night time.]
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on August 07, 2013
at 05:31 PM
From the sounds of it, you have an inverted cortisol/melatonin pattern. You can take an ASI test for this to confirm it.
If that's the case, you can do a few things such as very bright light exposure in the morning, preferably from sunlight, and sleeping in a pitch black room. You'll need to cover any LEDs such as those from alarm clocks, TVs, set top boxes, etc., especially anything blue or white. Change your curtains to black out curtains. Maybe get one of those bright light things for SAD therapy and use them as soon as you wake up.
At night, wear orange tinted glasses if watching TV after sunset, and install F.LUX or the equivalent on any electronics such as notebook computers, cell phones, tablets, etc.
Ensure that whatever coffee/caffeine you consume is cut off after 2pm the latest, but noon would be best. If you can do your workout in the day - you'd want activity, even if it's just a long walk. The more activity and light you get in the day, and the more darkness you expose yourself to at night, the more you can fix this problem.
Adrenal support such as salt, minerals, licorice root in the morning, and tulsi (holy basil) in the late afternoon would help too.
You might want to seek out Dr. Kalish's book and some of his video seminars on this.
on August 06, 2013
at 02:26 PM
You could try camping:
I've always found that to be helpful. Your body is forced into a different rhythm. Try not to bring anything like ipad, dvd player, etc. but stuff to make a campfire, books, food, tent, etc.
(car camping could work)
Also, When you say you feel awake after 7-8 pm, I would suspect your cortisol rhythms are out of whack. Have you done a saliva cortisol test?
I guess, do you need to change your schedule for work/seeing people? If not, I suppose you wouldn't be here. Anyway, it might be best to stick to what works and try getting bright light device over your head or taking walks at 7 AM, 12 pm, and 5 pm every day for 10 minutes (and for the light device, try to get it from a reputable manufacturer, because it's literally a drug to your body which Dr. Michael Terman, a director of sleep studies at Columbia, and the author of the great book CHRONOTHERAPY, says should be regulated - i.e. to what extent do the bright lights output what they say they will (some are too weak), and perhaps you could work with a doctor on when and how long to use it - Terman and his company sell their devices here http://www.cet.org/eng/AboutUs_ENG.html)
This article gave me hope http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/19/sleeping-or-not-by-the-wrong-clock/?_r=0
and Dr. Terman also has been well reviewed by most patients (via google searches, 3 people ranked him 5/5 but he also has good cases of people he has helped in his book)
I would say it takes help, and cortisol regulation (as well at proper times), diet, activity during the day, and supplements were all necessary to get me to sleeping soundly through the night. It's not perfect, but I accept it takes time to fix.
on August 06, 2013
at 01:56 PM
Look into delayed sleep phase disorder - and definitely talk with your doctor or head-shrink about it.
It's something I dealt with when I was younger. It is often exacerbated by lifestlye choices, so as I grew up and "got my shit together", this issue went away. I basically slept from 5AM until 1PM everyday. I mean, the math works out, but I missed the daytime and seeing other people.
Most people that colloquially say "oh, I have insomonia" when their sleep is just poor almost certainly do not have insomnia and probably have light forms of DSPD.
on August 07, 2013
at 09:19 AM
Adrenal fatigue? I felt exhausted in the day, would go to bed shattered and then have the most shocking nights sleep, only to finally doze off around an hour before getting up. Then it was like a remake from the night of the living dead, dazed and confused at work and so completely tired and wired at the same time... very disturbing...
on August 06, 2013
at 06:22 PM
I felt this way when I was younger and being exposed to various errors in modern society. Artificial lights, the abject lie of modern education, the retarded and emotionally stunting relationships we develop as a result, and the crap medication folks push on you when you start complaining about all the weird side effects you get from living at odds with your evolutionary history.
So, as you might guess, since I've been eating paleo and avoiding excess blue light for a while now, I don't have this problem anymore. A good dose of Vitamin D3 in the morning helps as well. It is also a good idea to be careful with alcohol, because it seems to be a sleep disrupter.
The social realities may be harder to deal with, because we very often have to deal with people who are still plugged into the craziness.