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Why am I waking up in the middle of the night and can't get back to sleep?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 20, 2011 at 12:25 PM

I've been doing Quilt's leptin reset for about a week and half or two (can't remember). Even before that, I've been getting around 8 or 9 hours of sleep every day for a month and a half. I always fall asleep immediately (I always have), but the last two nights I wake up after about 4 hours, go the bathroom, go back to bed and just lie there. I don't worry about anything. I try not to really even think of anything. But I just lie there forever. Last night, I did this twice and probably laid there for about an hour and a half or more altogether. Very annoying and confusing. Why is that happening? Any ideas or ways I can fix this? Thanks!

F44b15b2fd1ad134200793d6b474fc4c

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Some people do very well on melatonin. I can't take it at all. It doesn't help me get to sleep and when I do, I'm in a half-asleep/half-awake state all night. It's not surprising that I get up in the morning feeling horrible! But, as I said, it really helps some people!

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

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on March 08, 2012
at 03:09 PM

yep melatonin = crazy vivid dreams....and exhaustion the next day...for me

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on October 21, 2011
at 07:24 PM

The chocolate chips gives your body enough sugar so it doesn't have to dip into protein stores and release adrenalin.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

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on October 21, 2011
at 12:14 AM

Dr. Mike Eades recommends carbs at night, too.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

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on October 21, 2011
at 12:14 AM

not sure if it applies to waking up, but they help to get you to sleep. http://www.habitguide.com/judith-wurtman-interview Go to her other writings for better cites, but at least here is the jist of their theory.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

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on October 21, 2011
at 12:06 AM

So, what's with all the downvotes again. Creepy crawlers?

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on October 20, 2011
at 10:58 PM

Its based on the assumption that his brain is using all his liver glycogen while he sleeps so his body is releasing cortisol/adrenalin to convert protein to glucose which makes him awake.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

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on October 20, 2011
at 08:09 PM

but in all seriousness, I'm curious what this suggestion is based on

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

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on October 20, 2011
at 08:08 PM

[citation required]

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on October 20, 2011
at 06:53 PM

Prolactin return does cause sleep issues......That happens between 12-3 AM once hormones become ordered again.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on October 20, 2011
at 06:52 PM

Green tea steeped can help

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

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on October 20, 2011
at 04:25 PM

This idea is fascinating to me. There are stories of neighbors meeting at the fence to talk in the middle of the night.

27e79ef3308bb5f2d7bd04ee7eea7b79

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on October 20, 2011
at 04:12 PM

Thanks, Korion!

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on October 20, 2011
at 12:59 PM

http://paleohacks.com/questions/44712/adrenaline-surges-during-the-night/44737#44737

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on October 20, 2011
at 12:57 PM

Just click "link" underneath the question.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on October 20, 2011
at 12:40 PM

Could be lack of sugar. When I first started VLC, I had trouble sleeping. Eating lemons/grapefruits helped me out. You could also take magnesium 2 hours before going to bed, like Dr. Kruse recommends, if you wanna avoid fruit.

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E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on October 20, 2011
at 01:03 PM

eat carbohydrates before you go to sleep.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:09 PM

but in all seriousness, I'm curious what this suggestion is based on

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 21, 2011
at 12:14 AM

Dr. Mike Eades recommends carbs at night, too.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:08 PM

[citation required]

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 20, 2011
at 10:58 PM

Its based on the assumption that his brain is using all his liver glycogen while he sleeps so his body is releasing cortisol/adrenalin to convert protein to glucose which makes him awake.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 21, 2011
at 12:14 AM

not sure if it applies to waking up, but they help to get you to sleep. http://www.habitguide.com/judith-wurtman-interview Go to her other writings for better cites, but at least here is the jist of their theory.

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7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on October 20, 2011
at 03:23 PM

Maybe it's prolactin finally kicking in? There are scientists who believe we used to have a period of wakefulness in the night:

Jessa Gamble's Ted Talk

It is always possible that what is normal for us is not normal for humans.

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

(7660)

on October 20, 2011
at 04:25 PM

This idea is fascinating to me. There are stories of neighbors meeting at the fence to talk in the middle of the night.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on October 20, 2011
at 06:53 PM

Prolactin return does cause sleep issues......That happens between 12-3 AM once hormones become ordered again.

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8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 20, 2011
at 03:01 PM

On the quilt, he says it is due to hormonal imbalance. (See the sleep apnea blog comments.) Follow the sleep instructions and also look into some of the supplements he suggests. Many start with melatonin and 5-htp for a couple of weeks. Of course, eating carbs at night, or snacking in the middle of the night is not on the plan.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on October 20, 2011
at 06:52 PM

Green tea steeped can help

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 21, 2011
at 12:06 AM

So, what's with all the downvotes again. Creepy crawlers?

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368568eb91f1b58d2f52c9c566d331b5

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on October 20, 2011
at 02:46 PM

A lot of people swear by melatonin, but imo it only helps you fall asleep, it doesn't help if the problem is waking up in the middle of then night. I've had success with L-theanine, as it helps you stay asleep.

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9cb1f345eb342eee51a8fc44ffe66184

on October 20, 2011
at 02:16 PM

I frequently have the same problem.. exactly! I have been trying melatonin this week to try to help.

Wow how weird is that stuff? I been having cRaZy dreams! I am thinking the whole problem stems from cortisol in one way or another.

F44b15b2fd1ad134200793d6b474fc4c

(938)

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Some people do very well on melatonin. I can't take it at all. It doesn't help me get to sleep and when I do, I'm in a half-asleep/half-awake state all night. It's not surprising that I get up in the morning feeling horrible! But, as I said, it really helps some people!

Ab19df3ededa28f7bf7daeba8435b205

(1471)

on March 08, 2012
at 03:09 PM

yep melatonin = crazy vivid dreams....and exhaustion the next day...for me

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27e79ef3308bb5f2d7bd04ee7eea7b79

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on October 20, 2011
at 12:52 PM

Rhubarb made a good reply about fat adaptation in this thread, http://paleohacks.com/questions/44712/adrenaline-surges-during-the-night#axzz1b8PI73Sd

Scroll down to find that particular reply - sorry, I don't know how to link to individual replies instead of overall question threads.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on October 20, 2011
at 12:59 PM

http://paleohacks.com/questions/44712/adrenaline-surges-during-the-night/44737#44737

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on October 20, 2011
at 12:57 PM

Just click "link" underneath the question.

27e79ef3308bb5f2d7bd04ee7eea7b79

(2038)

on October 20, 2011
at 04:12 PM

Thanks, Korion!

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7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

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on October 20, 2011
at 12:44 PM

Are you hungry? Sometimes I have trouble sleeping when I've inadvertently been undereating for a few days, even though I rarely feel hunger pangs.

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9b0a4701e373d4dd13831cfb9b13f42d

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on October 21, 2011
at 06:40 PM

I had this same issue man and all I can tell you is that a half bag of white chocolate chips before bed is the only thing that seems to help (no matter how epic of a meal I eat before bed). I know its not what anybody wants to hear but thats all i found at this point. i posted about this very issue awhile back with no success.

This seems in me, to coinside with a dip below 9% bodyfat or maybe deep Ketosis? Whatever the case Melatonin and 5htp did nothing for me. I will just wake up at 3:30-4:30 am wide awake ready to start the.

I tried to alter fat intake, training, you name it.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 21, 2011
at 07:24 PM

The chocolate chips gives your body enough sugar so it doesn't have to dip into protein stores and release adrenalin.

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D610e749fea1c3a182a6541673e9349c

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on October 21, 2011
at 01:31 AM

Depression. Usually you'll wake around 3. Excess alcohol consumption will do it too. Ethanol -> Acetaldehyde

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2b2c2e4aa87e9aa4c99cae48e980f70d

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on October 20, 2011
at 07:50 PM

I'm gUessing a cortisol spike.

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F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

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on October 20, 2011
at 04:24 PM

I've had this problem twice now. The first time was after starting this WOE and the second is now during a Whole30. In between those times, I was sleeping like a baby with lots of vivid dreams.

I've noticed that the few times I've needed to take a nap, the quality of that sleep is very different from the carb let-down I used to get in the afternoon in the pre-Paleo days. Now it's a strange kind of in and out, half awake, half asleep state.

The solution to the first event seemed to be either time or a slight uptick in carbs. In the beginning, I think I went gung-ho VLC which got the weight off quickly, but may have messed with my sleep.

I'm pretty sure the solution to my second episode will be the end of my Whole30. Grumble.

I don't know about you, but being awake in the middle of the night doesn't necessarily translate to being tired during the day. I do seem to crash earlier around 9pm though.

Good luck to you!

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