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Who's tried grounding/earthing at night?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 01, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Found a enigmatic little study while trying to find a correlation between Magnesium Threonate as a cure for DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness). This study talks about the benefits of sleeping on or with a ground.

I think Im gonna go buy a standard copper grounding spike and run an insulated wire into my bedroom then a bare copper wire into my bed (or simply attach it to the handcuffs LOL).

Anybody done this? Low investment, can't hurt, Ill post up me results.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3151462/

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(10611)

on February 02, 2012
at 12:17 AM

Far out man. The article has a lot of health related population statistics, a theory and Earthing handcuffs supplied by by Sokol & Sokol, and no attempt to link the two except by innuendo. I think of the mail order time travel device in Napoleon Dynamite, which also involved grounding, and I think you're your own lab rat on this one.

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

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on February 02, 2012
at 12:11 AM

Oh, and I know all about absolute zero, superconductivity, and all that stuff (and it's not mystical). I got my Ph.D. in physics from here: http://jila.colorado.edu/, the world's premier AMO physics institute. That's why I'm dismissing this sleeping while grounded as crap, because it is.

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

(20898)

on February 02, 2012
at 12:09 AM

Nope, you're wrong. The reason you die is that there's a potential difference between the wire and ground. If you're standing on the ground, you're potential is 0. If you're hanging off of a wire you're potential is the same as the wire. If you're standing on the ground and touching a wire the current flows from the wire through you to ground and kills you. You can call the wire 10,000V and ground 0V or you can call the ground 10,000V as long as you call the wire 20,000V. It's all the same.

E286e6ba6ef6c4c4a31a749e59aa57e1

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on February 01, 2012
at 11:53 PM

Stock in what company? Home Depot? because thats where I got the 8" copper pipe and the wire to run to my bed, total investment $8. Dr. Oschman is probably laughing all the way the the bank.

E286e6ba6ef6c4c4a31a749e59aa57e1

(608)

on February 01, 2012
at 11:50 PM

Im afraid there is something special about ground, if you grab that same high current A/C wire standing on the ground you die, if your not in contact with the ground you don't. FYI the absence of temperature (aka absolute zero) near absolute zero happens to be a very mystical place(which has never been achieved on Earth) where Quantum Physics are being studied and Super conductivity has been achieved in laboratory settings. For you do dismiss this all rather than saying "No, I never tried it, and I cant speak to its effects." Is why I down voted your comment. – Cory151 0 secs ago

E286e6ba6ef6c4c4a31a749e59aa57e1

(608)

on February 01, 2012
at 11:48 PM

I afraid there is something special about ground, if you grab that same high current A/C wire standing on the ground you die, if your not in contact with the ground you don't. FYI the absence of temperature (aka absolute zero) near absolute zero happens to be a very mystical place (which has never been achieved on Earth) where Quantum Physics are being studied and Super conductivity has been achieved in laboratory settings. For you do dismiss this all rather than saying "No, I never tried it, and I cant speak to its effects." Is why I down voted your comment.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on February 01, 2012
at 11:24 PM

I dunno, I always keep the dirt of my native land in my casket and I sleep just fine. Just have to watch out for that sunlight.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on February 01, 2012
at 05:22 PM

I find it funny that people would immediately point out this is woo. Almost everything I do seems woo to the conventional public. What are you eating? Beef Liver. Really? Yes. Ewwwwww.

Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

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on February 01, 2012
at 11:54 AM

Didn't Dr. Frankenstein try this once?

B76f22ed4373946b3c8990b667562683

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on February 01, 2012
at 03:04 AM

There are so many manmade electromagnetic fields coursing through our bodies right now, maybe a good ol' fashioned Victorian electrocution would do us some good!

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on February 01, 2012
at 03:03 AM

The ground's a little wet here. Brr. Maybe I'll bring a little jar of dirt inside to set by the bed.

627cf3f5d1ddfb4c2f4c96169420f55f

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on February 01, 2012
at 02:37 AM

Do you sleep on the ground?

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on February 01, 2012
at 02:06 AM

Sounds safer than the Victorian cure of running current through your body to realign your body's magnetic pole after it was screwed up by riding on electric trolleys ...

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on February 01, 2012
at 01:31 AM

Oh god, this sounds like some serious woo. Get your Q-Bracelets on everybody.

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510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

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on February 01, 2012
at 05:16 AM

Seriously? I hope this rant doesn't sound too rude, but people (in general, not just you - there was another electricity question last week too) need to read up on some physics and think about the question before asking it. There is absolutely nothing special about "ground" or being grounded. "Ground" is just a reference point. Voltage means nothing on its own, you always have to talk about voltage with respect to something, so by convention we say that the ground (i.e., the earth) is 0V. Then if something is higher than ground, it has a positive voltage, lower is negative. But if you are not actually in contact with the ground, your "internal voltage" is a meaningless number. A bird sitting on a tree which is in contact with the ground is at a potential of 0V. But that same bird flys and sits on a power line, now it's at a potential of 10,000V, but since the powerline is also at 10,000V it's difference is 0 and it's all the same to the bird. "Ground" is just an arbitrary 0 point.

It's similar to temperature. 0 degrees Celcius is just arbitrary, it's the freezing point of pure water but it means nothing real. 0 degrees Farenheit is also arbitrary, it's the freezing point of the salt water outside of Mr. Farenheit's laboratory. Equating 0 degrees to "the absence of temperature" is the same as equating ground as "the absence of voltage"

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

(20898)

on February 02, 2012
at 12:09 AM

Nope, you're wrong. The reason you die is that there's a potential difference between the wire and ground. If you're standing on the ground, you're potential is 0. If you're hanging off of a wire you're potential is the same as the wire. If you're standing on the ground and touching a wire the current flows from the wire through you to ground and kills you. You can call the wire 10,000V and ground 0V or you can call the ground 10,000V as long as you call the wire 20,000V. It's all the same.

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

(20898)

on February 02, 2012
at 12:11 AM

Oh, and I know all about absolute zero, superconductivity, and all that stuff (and it's not mystical). I got my Ph.D. in physics from here: http://jila.colorado.edu/, the world's premier AMO physics institute. That's why I'm dismissing this sleeping while grounded as crap, because it is.

E286e6ba6ef6c4c4a31a749e59aa57e1

(608)

on February 01, 2012
at 11:50 PM

Im afraid there is something special about ground, if you grab that same high current A/C wire standing on the ground you die, if your not in contact with the ground you don't. FYI the absence of temperature (aka absolute zero) near absolute zero happens to be a very mystical place(which has never been achieved on Earth) where Quantum Physics are being studied and Super conductivity has been achieved in laboratory settings. For you do dismiss this all rather than saying "No, I never tried it, and I cant speak to its effects." Is why I down voted your comment. – Cory151 0 secs ago

E286e6ba6ef6c4c4a31a749e59aa57e1

(608)

on February 01, 2012
at 11:48 PM

I afraid there is something special about ground, if you grab that same high current A/C wire standing on the ground you die, if your not in contact with the ground you don't. FYI the absence of temperature (aka absolute zero) near absolute zero happens to be a very mystical place (which has never been achieved on Earth) where Quantum Physics are being studied and Super conductivity has been achieved in laboratory settings. For you do dismiss this all rather than saying "No, I never tried it, and I cant speak to its effects." Is why I down voted your comment.

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B76f22ed4373946b3c8990b667562683

on February 01, 2012
at 02:02 AM

Dr Oschman owns stock in the company sponsoring this research (literally), for what that's worth. Once upon a time I studied physics and worked for some time as an electrical engineer, and this all smells suspicious to me. A good diet and regular use of those handcuffs (along with other stress-reducing activities) will do as much or more for your health compared to sleeping on copper wire. But I can't see any real harm in doing this, if you really have the urge and can afford that much copper right now.

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(2923)

on February 01, 2012
at 02:06 AM

Sounds safer than the Victorian cure of running current through your body to realign your body's magnetic pole after it was screwed up by riding on electric trolleys ...

E286e6ba6ef6c4c4a31a749e59aa57e1

(608)

on February 01, 2012
at 11:53 PM

Stock in what company? Home Depot? because thats where I got the 8" copper pipe and the wire to run to my bed, total investment $8. Dr. Oschman is probably laughing all the way the the bank.

B76f22ed4373946b3c8990b667562683

(783)

on February 01, 2012
at 03:04 AM

There are so many manmade electromagnetic fields coursing through our bodies right now, maybe a good ol' fashioned Victorian electrocution would do us some good!

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5b0f25610421dc54a8373e7d3e4a0f94

on February 01, 2012
at 01:41 AM

Or, try sleeping on the ground for free.

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on February 01, 2012
at 03:03 AM

The ground's a little wet here. Brr. Maybe I'll bring a little jar of dirt inside to set by the bed.

627cf3f5d1ddfb4c2f4c96169420f55f

(1621)

on February 01, 2012
at 02:37 AM

Do you sleep on the ground?

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on February 01, 2012
at 11:24 PM

I dunno, I always keep the dirt of my native land in my casket and I sleep just fine. Just have to watch out for that sunlight.

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E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

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on February 01, 2012
at 11:32 PM

I am NOT going to get into whether what is usually known as "earthing" is woo or not. My opinion is mine and everyone else's is theirs and too many people here are a little too quick to jump pretty heavily on anything they have decided is bogus or "not scientific".

My suggestion however if you wanted to try it out for yourself and decide (since we are all also always talking about the n=1 experiment) is just to go walking around outdoors barefoot as much as possible and see how that goes. And then for the times when you have or want to use shoes, just make sure they have a real leather sole rather than something synthetic - oops, gee, guess that means no VFFs (grin).

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5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on February 01, 2012
at 11:31 PM

It's one of those out there things. The only research is pretty much by the proponents, and I don't know of any credible medical studies on it. Could have an affect unknown to the rest of the world. More likely to be placebo.

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912ec069b5bd84af1b6ef7545b950908

on February 01, 2012
at 02:29 AM

I've never heard of this at all (and I've heard of a lot of stuff.) However, i am 100% in favor of magnesium supplementation to alleviate muscle cramps and to reduce night-time anxiety and nightmares.

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