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Under $300 ideas to help me sleep on the floor

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Created July 30, 2012 at 11:18 PM

I've been sleeping on the floor with just one blanket under me. It's okay but not optimal. I am looking for something similar to Japanese futons.

I am thinking about this memory foam mattress (5.5 inches high) like this: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/30139835/

or, this foam mattress (3 inches high) http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/30139835/

I can't find anything thinner than these two. Any ideas?

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on August 01, 2012
at 12:47 AM

That's what I'm gonna get whenever I have to replace my bed. Well under $300 even with the stand if you're not going to attach it to the wall.

363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

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on July 31, 2012
at 03:47 PM

I wish I had never bought our memory foam mattress. I can't wait for our futon to get in. The foam still smells like chemicals, and it's way too soft. It makes me feel cuddled by my bed, but I never wake up feeling comfortable or able to jump out of bed since we got it. Soon to be good riddance.

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on July 31, 2012
at 01:14 PM

Have you thought about backpacking products? Thermarest makes some really nice closed cell foam and self-inflating air mattresses. They are thin, easy to stash away, well under $300. Also, kudos on being so minimalist. I'm envious.

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on July 31, 2012
at 09:34 AM

^ If you want to sleep paleo, then your going to need some skins/furs.

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on July 31, 2012
at 03:27 AM

Wool breathes really well. I sleep under a wool comforter 90% of the year.

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

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on July 31, 2012
at 03:20 AM

Wow great info! Thank you so much! wouldn't wool blankets get too hot?

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

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on July 31, 2012
at 02:53 AM

sleeping on the floor is so PALEO. minimalist lifestyle. it's actually better for my back.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 31, 2012
at 02:21 AM

Thank you Dragonfly

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on July 31, 2012
at 02:16 AM

From what I've read, it can take 6-8 weeks for most of the off-gassing to happen, but I suspect there may be low levels over time due to temperature variations, compression, etc...

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 31, 2012
at 02:10 AM

I have heard it a lot and suspected it actually before I started hearing about it.... makes sense to me though given what they smell like when they are new. We off-gassed all of ours in the carport for 2 weeks before we used them but still....

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on July 31, 2012
at 02:07 AM

I never heard this, Ive slept on a temperpedic for 10 years.

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on July 31, 2012
at 01:33 AM

Why would you sleep on the floor? It's uncomfortable. It's closer to all sorts of indoor pollution-containing dust. And, bugs will crawl over you. Sounds like a silly idea.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on July 31, 2012
at 01:16 AM

I think it was Weekends Only for the futon mat, and JC Penney's, with a sale and coupons for the mattress-toppers.

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on July 31, 2012
at 01:09 AM

Dragonfly do you think memory-foam every off gasses enough, to be safe? . We have several old toppers (all at least 10 years old). I don't use it anymore but I have a feeling it contributed to my hormone issues. I removed them all from the house and my children and am storing them in the garage hoping they will be off-gassed soon. Wishful thinking most likely.

363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

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on July 31, 2012
at 12:50 AM

I had a cotton futon through childhood and before college, not sure how my parents cleaned it, I just remember them flipping it often for even wear. Anytime I sleep on a cotton futon I feel so amazing the next morning, and just spring out of bed. These ones don't appear to be folding types, but there are other folding futons on eBay. You can usually bend this type into a folded position, but it tends to make weak spots in the cotton batting. And memory foam definitely holds in heat! Too much in the summer, we have the AC on all night, but we are in NYC and it has been a super hot summer.

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on July 31, 2012
at 12:46 AM

or, for maybe, say, $5 per night, you can pay someone to punch you out and you can pass out blissfully on your floor and by-pass the whole problem :)

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on July 31, 2012
at 12:36 AM

Thicker yoga mat?

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

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on July 31, 2012
at 12:01 AM

Thanks for the answer. Which brand is it? How thick?

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

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on July 30, 2012
at 11:40 PM

All cotton futon is a great idea. Do they fold up like the japanese kind? How do you wash it?

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on July 30, 2012
at 11:38 PM

Memory foam certainly is comfortable but it does hold in heat...a definate problem in the summer.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on July 31, 2012
at 12:28 AM

Ugh. Please avoid memory foam. Endocrine disruptor-city.

If you can't afford natural latex, then get some old heavy wool blankets, wash then thoroughly & layer them.

Or contact these folk & see what fire retardants they use in their afforbdable Japanese futons: http://www.jlifeinternational.com/houseitems/futon/shikifuton/shikifuton_e.html

http://www.inspire.com/groups/ovarian-cancer-national-alliance/discussion/environmental-carcinogens/

Toxic Chemicals in Your Mattress All U.S. manufacturers must meet a requirement that mattresses withstand a large open flame for 70 seconds. They spray mattresses with flame-retardant chemicals like polybrominated diphenyl ether (PBDE), and boric acid (pesticide), antimony, (toxic metal similar to arsenic), formaldehyde (known carcinogen) and decabromodiphenyl oxide (causes hair and memory loss; heart, lung and kidney damage and cancer) to meet this requirement. PBDEs, which have been banned in Canada, Europe and several states, build up in your body over time, and what you absorb or inhale does not go away. PBDE is linked to brain and reproductive damage, decreased sperm quality, thyroid problems and cancer. PBDE is sprayed not only on beds but on furniture and carpet pads as well. It is also part of the housing in wiring and electronic appliances, such as TVs and stereos. Concentrations of PBDEs in human milk have been found to be much higher in the U.S. than in Europe. The PBDE levels in breast milk from Texas were similar to levels found in U.S. blood and adipose tissue lipid from California and Indiana and are 10-100 times greater than human tissue levels in Europe. Their detection in breast milk raises concern for potential toxicity to nursing infants, given the persistence and bioaccumulative nature of some of the PBDE congeners. These results indicate a need for more detailed investigation of the levels of PBDE in people and food, as well as determining if animal fat in food is the major route of exposure of the general U.S. population. Other routes of intake may also be significant. Environ Health Perspect 111:1723-1729 (2003)

In 2005, Walter Bader, owner of the ???green mattress??? company Lifekind and author of the book Toxic Bedrooms, sent several mattresses to an Atlanta-based lab. A memory-foam model was found to emit 61 chemicals, including the carcinogens benzene and naphthalene. Technically a mattress manufacturer is supposed to honor a prescription from your doctor for a chemical-free mattress, but evidently this is inconvenient, because most companies refuse to make such a special order. There are several companies that sell ???organic??? mattresses, which means the cotton used was grown without pesticides; and ???chemical-free??? mattresses, which use wool ??? not chemicals ??? to make mattresses flame retardant. Savvy Rest, Nirvana Safe Haven, Soaring Heart Natural Bed Co. and CozyPure are companies that offer organic and chemical-free beds. Organic, chemical-free mattresses are rather pricy though, starting at about two to three thousand dollars. Thefutonshop.com sells organic mattresses for around $800 and they will make them chemical-free if you provide a doctor???s note. Healthychild.com and greenmattresses.com are comparable suppliers of organic and chemical-free mattresses. The state legislated requirement of fire retardants in our beds and furniture is legislation that we should press our congress men and women to abandon.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 31, 2012
at 02:10 AM

I have heard it a lot and suspected it actually before I started hearing about it.... makes sense to me though given what they smell like when they are new. We off-gassed all of ours in the carport for 2 weeks before we used them but still....

363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

(4642)

on July 31, 2012
at 03:47 PM

I wish I had never bought our memory foam mattress. I can't wait for our futon to get in. The foam still smells like chemicals, and it's way too soft. It makes me feel cuddled by my bed, but I never wake up feeling comfortable or able to jump out of bed since we got it. Soon to be good riddance.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on July 31, 2012
at 12:46 AM

or, for maybe, say, $5 per night, you can pay someone to punch you out and you can pass out blissfully on your floor and by-pass the whole problem :)

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on July 31, 2012
at 03:27 AM

Wool breathes really well. I sleep under a wool comforter 90% of the year.

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on July 31, 2012
at 03:20 AM

Wow great info! Thank you so much! wouldn't wool blankets get too hot?

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 31, 2012
at 02:21 AM

Thank you Dragonfly

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 31, 2012
at 01:09 AM

Dragonfly do you think memory-foam every off gasses enough, to be safe? . We have several old toppers (all at least 10 years old). I don't use it anymore but I have a feeling it contributed to my hormone issues. I removed them all from the house and my children and am storing them in the garage hoping they will be off-gassed soon. Wishful thinking most likely.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on July 31, 2012
at 02:07 AM

I never heard this, Ive slept on a temperpedic for 10 years.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on July 31, 2012
at 02:16 AM

From what I've read, it can take 6-8 weeks for most of the off-gassing to happen, but I suspect there may be low levels over time due to temperature variations, compression, etc...

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363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

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on July 30, 2012
at 11:24 PM

Here is a 4 inch all cotton futon on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gold-Bond-604-All-Cotton-4-Futon-Mattress-Choose-Size-/150635106906?pt=US_Futons_Frames_and_Covers&var=&hash=item23128d525a#ht_685wt_907 A full is $118.00.

I looked into the manufacturer company and they don't use harmful chemicals to clean the cotton. The manufacturer is Gold Bond (not the itch powder) mattresses. You can find the additional details on their direct site: http://goldbondfuton.com/. They have multiple other futon types, some with foam or innersprings, but I prefer straight up cotton futons. You have to rotate them a lot, but they hold up well.. plus make moving easier!

We have had a memory foam mattress for a little over a year, and we're so over it. It is so comfortable (in a squishy way) but not good for our backs, so we're trading it in for a queen futon, and these were the best prices I could find.

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

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on July 30, 2012
at 11:38 PM

Memory foam certainly is comfortable but it does hold in heat...a definate problem in the summer.

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on July 30, 2012
at 11:40 PM

All cotton futon is a great idea. Do they fold up like the japanese kind? How do you wash it?

363d0a0277a8b61ada3a24ab3ad85d5a

(4642)

on July 31, 2012
at 12:50 AM

I had a cotton futon through childhood and before college, not sure how my parents cleaned it, I just remember them flipping it often for even wear. Anytime I sleep on a cotton futon I feel so amazing the next morning, and just spring out of bed. These ones don't appear to be folding types, but there are other folding futons on eBay. You can usually bend this type into a folded position, but it tends to make weak spots in the cotton batting. And memory foam definitely holds in heat! Too much in the summer, we have the AC on all night, but we are in NYC and it has been a super hot summer.

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on July 31, 2012
at 01:37 PM

I used to work with a futon manufacturer. The all cotton futons don't always hold up well, the best ones I recall for thin would be the cotton/wool layered.

Basically, a futon is made of layered bats of the materials. SO a thin cotton/wool would be 2 or 3 cotton bats with wool bats on the outside.

The cotton/foam is great and holds up even better over time, but you will end up with about 7 inches thick (you could get down to 5, I guess)

To do it yourself, if you can find surplus wool blankets, 5 or 6 of them (or 7 or 9, whatever) layered together and loosely stitched into a batt with some thick line (I'd use something like a strong yarn, actually) will make a good core. You basically want a stitch every 5-8 inches to hold the shape and keep things from bunching up. Then you make a cover for that out of cotton with buttons or velcro to close it and you are done. (you can get any length you want by sewing the edges of blankets together, just make sure to stagger those seams like a brick wall)

You could, of course, make the bat and just put a sheet over it.

A decent thin, cotton/wool or cotton/foam futon from a real futon shop, in XLT (Extra long Twin) or full should run no more than $200 with a cheaper basic cotton cover.

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on July 31, 2012
at 06:35 AM

TOTALLY AGREE WITH DRAGONFLY!!! AVOID MEMORY FOAM!!! GET SOMETHING VERY VERY NATURAL!!! I got a 100% cotton mattress.

Maybe you can use a couple of cotton blankets like in the Princess and the pea story?

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26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on July 30, 2012
at 11:25 PM

We sleep on a queen size futon mattress, no frame, topped with a memory foam and goose-down mattress topper. Easily bought for under $300.

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

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on July 31, 2012
at 12:01 AM

Thanks for the answer. Which brand is it? How thick?

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on July 31, 2012
at 01:16 AM

I think it was Weekends Only for the futon mat, and JC Penney's, with a sale and coupons for the mattress-toppers.

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on July 31, 2012
at 01:01 PM

Have you considered a hammock?

A913bf93cf3bb8351481414d1218c441

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on August 01, 2012
at 12:47 AM

That's what I'm gonna get whenever I have to replace my bed. Well under $300 even with the stand if you're not going to attach it to the wall.

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on July 31, 2012
at 12:53 PM

I've made something pretty simple with a couple of queen-sized duvet inners folded in half and stuck inside a single duvet cover. Cheap and washable.

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on July 31, 2012
at 09:27 AM

I use an old thick comforter and sleep on the carpet... Cheap alternative....

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on July 31, 2012
at 01:52 AM

Get a blue foam pad from K-mart. The kind you take backpacking. It will provide warmth under your body on colder nights and take the edge off the hardness of the floor. Don't worry, your hip bones will get used to it after a while. Otherwise, just sleep on a sheet or blanket on the carpet. I've done that lots of times. I don't consider sleeping on piles of memory foam to be the same as "sleeping on the floor."

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on July 30, 2012
at 11:30 PM

I don't know if they still have them, but my parents got a 2 inch memory foam king-size mattress topper for $125 at Costco a couple of years ago. Whenever they move, they sleep on that on the floor until their real bed arrives.

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