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The least damaging way to party? (i.e. Drink alcohol)

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created August 17, 2011 at 5:30 PM

This is pretty much a follow up question to my "challenges of being primal at 21" question a few days ago. So this fall I will be heading to campus a few times a month to party with all my close friends.

Obviously I won't have access to all the primal foods in my kitchen at home. I will most likely cook dinner at one of my friends houses. The way I look at it, I will be hitting the "pause button" on my primal lifestyle for 24 hours. (Notice I didn't say diet. There is no reason I will be eating crap food, just consuming alcohol and depriving myself of sleep.)

I understand beer like Michelob Ultra is super low carb, but you've got to drink a lot of that stuff to get your buzz on. Someone a few days ago mentioned hard cider, anyone care to elaborate? Also, I know that cinnamon helps stabilize blood sugar when consuming really sweet things like honey and chocolate, any tricks like that for alcohol? Any tips on staying hydrated?

My question: what combination of mixer/alcohol is the least damaging to your body?

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

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on July 30, 2012
at 03:08 PM

Gasp.. Watch sweet misery. I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on November 11, 2011
at 03:09 PM

That's how I roll.

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

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on November 10, 2011
at 05:18 AM

"Anything can be damaging based on how much you imbibe. I carry a flask and will have a seltzer in my tote." Best quote all day.

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on August 27, 2011
at 02:06 AM

I second the coconut water advice - great for the morning after.

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on August 18, 2011
at 04:36 AM

Not all ciders are bad, but Woodchuck, Original Sin, and similar have added sugars and preservatives. Harpoon is the way to go if you live in the Northeast, especially New England, as it is 100% fermented apple juice (no sugar, no preservatives) and has 7g carbs per bottle. Blackthorne is even drier in flavor, and likely has fewer carbs, but I haven't ever seen it outside of jolly old England. The best you may be able to do is Strongbow, which is an English dry cider with a fairly wide US distribution. Even then, you are still better off mixing quality distilled spirits with club soda.

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on August 17, 2011
at 09:58 PM

@Bill yes its hilarious ;) it just goes to show our inhibitions are self imposed and largely self regulated and we can 'let loose & relax' if we just decide to.

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on August 17, 2011
at 09:41 PM

touche, sean. but i often find myself with bottle of j&b ;0

5266ac5977ec9d80ac8047697dbbe55b

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on August 17, 2011
at 08:30 PM

Agreed. We can't completely detach from our culture, even if it does promote some less-than-paleo behavior. You're doing better than 99% of the college crowd and are putting much better things into your body once the party's over.

De641ff2accb4975e1f42886b43009db

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on August 17, 2011
at 08:26 PM

Oh I understand the concept, but I enjoy drinking :) I'm 21 and definitely not over it yet!

5266ac5977ec9d80ac8047697dbbe55b

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on August 17, 2011
at 08:19 PM

People think I'm so much more hardcore now that I'm showing up to parties with the ingredients for NorCal margaritas instead of a case of beer. A few of those bad boys and I'm good to go.

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on August 17, 2011
at 08:15 PM

On nights that I want to be social, but am in no mood to drink, I walk around with a glass of club soda garnished with a lime. Most people just assume the drink contains alcohol, and I get to enjoy myself without the awkward "Why aren't you drinking?" question.

007c02eea7bdf63422562667aaf81f0f

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on August 17, 2011
at 08:11 PM

Scotch and seltzer? Why degrade a perfectly good Scotch with anything other than a small ice cube? ;)

001cd8e3885a870edc0ea8323ad9c719

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on August 17, 2011
at 07:52 PM

Make sure you get good tequila -- it makes a difference!

De641ff2accb4975e1f42886b43009db

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on August 17, 2011
at 07:32 PM

Lots of good advice, thanks man. (Also, I don't always eat when I drink.. didn't mean to imply that.)

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on August 17, 2011
at 07:26 PM

stevia-sweetened diet soda, right?

Ef4c5b09fdccf73be575d3a0c267fdd9

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on August 17, 2011
at 07:10 PM

I have played this joke hilariously on other people before. I love their reaction when I tell them their drink was, in fact, not supplemented with alcohol.

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on August 17, 2011
at 06:39 PM

Oh craps carbs. Run away!

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on August 17, 2011
at 06:39 PM

Great post at Mark's Daily Apple about this subject too: http:www.marksdailyapple.com/low-carb-alcohol

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on August 17, 2011
at 06:19 PM

You can thank Robb Wolf for that! I just knew where to find the info but together nicely.

De641ff2accb4975e1f42886b43009db

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on August 17, 2011
at 06:17 PM

Awesome, awesome.. looks like we have a winner. Guess I'm going to have to do some local Tequila hunting.

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on August 17, 2011
at 05:55 PM

but it has no gluten ...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 17, 2011
at 05:54 PM

hard cider has tons of carbs! tons of sugar = tons of carbs!

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on August 17, 2011
at 05:51 PM

that's a carb & calorie feast which i would not recommend!

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7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

on August 17, 2011
at 06:02 PM

Here's a better science-y reason to drink NorCal margaritas than I could explain on my own.

http://nick.zadrozny.com/post/318559399/the-norcal-margarita

One particular gem of a discovery is the NorCal Margarita. It???s a tasty adult beverage that the nutrition geek can enjoy, thanks to science!

  1. 2???3 shots of 100% agave tequila.
  2. Juice and pulp from one lime.
  3. Shake it all up with some ice.
  4. Add soda water to taste.

Also, I???ve found that it can help to make a few of them at a time, to average out the different sizes of limes.

This drink is wonderful, for a few reasons:

  1. Tequila is delicious.
  2. Tequila is fermented agave juice, which makes it gluten- or and starch-free. Gluten, as nutrition geeks know, is a gut irritant and just generally bad stuff, and starches are way too dense with unnecessary carbs. Rum could likewise work well here.
  3. Lime juice blunts the insulin response of the alcohol, maintaining your precious and hard-earned insulin sensitivity.
  4. The lime juice also provides a net alkaline load when it gets to the blood stream, which is a good thing. Most other foods provide a net acid load, and it???s nice to balance that out.
  5. The carbon dioxide bubbles in the soda water help get the ethanol into your blood more quickly. This has the practical effect of allowing you to drink a bit less for the same effect.

Yum!

5266ac5977ec9d80ac8047697dbbe55b

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on August 17, 2011
at 08:19 PM

People think I'm so much more hardcore now that I'm showing up to parties with the ingredients for NorCal margaritas instead of a case of beer. A few of those bad boys and I'm good to go.

De641ff2accb4975e1f42886b43009db

(2227)

on August 17, 2011
at 06:17 PM

Awesome, awesome.. looks like we have a winner. Guess I'm going to have to do some local Tequila hunting.

001cd8e3885a870edc0ea8323ad9c719

(260)

on August 17, 2011
at 07:52 PM

Make sure you get good tequila -- it makes a difference!

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on August 17, 2011
at 06:19 PM

You can thank Robb Wolf for that! I just knew where to find the info but together nicely.

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on August 17, 2011
at 05:57 PM

Tequila (fermented juice of agave). Soda water (gets you more bang for alcoholic buck). Juice of one lime (something to do with insulin).

Behold the glory that is the NorCal margarita.

Robb Wolf's recommended least worst option for drinking.

Warms my Mexi-paleo soul.

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on August 17, 2011
at 06:45 PM

There is always the option of not drinking at all - alcohol is not a requirement to be able to have fun at any party. We did some experiments when I was in University where people were given a non-alcoholic drink but were told it contained alcohol, the other half were actually given alcohol - as the parties progressed both groups displayed the same 'drunken' behaviors ;)

Ef4c5b09fdccf73be575d3a0c267fdd9

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on August 17, 2011
at 07:10 PM

I have played this joke hilariously on other people before. I love their reaction when I tell them their drink was, in fact, not supplemented with alcohol.

66974b2cb291799dcd661b7dec99a9e2

(11121)

on August 17, 2011
at 09:58 PM

@Bill yes its hilarious ;) it just goes to show our inhibitions are self imposed and largely self regulated and we can 'let loose & relax' if we just decide to.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 17, 2011
at 05:53 PM

bottom line: hard liquor, with any non-caloric mixer. scotch & seltzer, whiskey & water, or even rum and >gasp< a diet soda.

red wines (dry varieties) are great too, though they do add in carbs. but the antioxidants are a worthy addition to your diet.

avoid beer. sucks, but true.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 17, 2011
at 09:41 PM

touche, sean. but i often find myself with bottle of j&b ;0

06325b762f78a2b8aaa977161cca4a1f

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on August 17, 2011
at 07:26 PM

stevia-sweetened diet soda, right?

007c02eea7bdf63422562667aaf81f0f

(100)

on August 17, 2011
at 08:11 PM

Scotch and seltzer? Why degrade a perfectly good Scotch with anything other than a small ice cube? ;)

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

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on July 30, 2012
at 03:08 PM

Gasp.. Watch sweet misery. I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

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Ef4c5b09fdccf73be575d3a0c267fdd9

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on August 17, 2011
at 06:24 PM

I am 22, a senior in college and also agree that Norcal Margarita's rock and your non-Paleo friends will love them too. Otherwise I stick to red wine and the occasional shot session with vodka or tequila.

In terms of food.... why do you have to eat after you drink? I am hardly ever hungry when I drink, I know that is opposite for most people. If your cooking dinner with friends, then cook a paleo meal as you have said, but if your going to be the only one cooking... I recommend maybe grabbing Chipotle (carnitas salad is very Paleo, sans dressing), or going to a nearby Wendys and getting a couple of patties without the bun and a baked potato if your down with carbs.

I do not recommend cider... worst hangovers of my life. It is very very tasty but is no better than most mixed drinks in terms of sugar content... Norcal margs, red wine, all have low sugar content which will help with a hangover.

In terms of preventing a hangover... coconut water rocks for that. Bring lots. Sugary it may be, but it hydrates wonderfully. Bananas and other high potassium fruit will work too.

Also, don't sweat it. Your young. You may not be interested in living the lifestyle that everyone our age else does, but you should still participate because you may regret it one day. A few nights of drinking a month is hardly going to kill your health at this age. Also, you dont HAVE to get super drunk. Just drink enough to relax and loosen up, no one will notice your not as drunk as them.

5266ac5977ec9d80ac8047697dbbe55b

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on August 17, 2011
at 08:30 PM

Agreed. We can't completely detach from our culture, even if it does promote some less-than-paleo behavior. You're doing better than 99% of the college crowd and are putting much better things into your body once the party's over.

De641ff2accb4975e1f42886b43009db

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on August 17, 2011
at 07:32 PM

Lots of good advice, thanks man. (Also, I don't always eat when I drink.. didn't mean to imply that.)

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on August 27, 2011
at 02:06 AM

I second the coconut water advice - great for the morning after.

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on August 17, 2011
at 05:58 PM

Nor-Cal Margaritas

If you want to get fancy - you can always muddle some berries or mint leaves in there and make a mojito - always fun to experiment!

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Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on August 17, 2011
at 05:57 PM

Anything can be damaging based on how much you imbibe. I carry a flask and will have a seltzer in my tote. I also always have snacks on me just in case - jerky, nuts, chocolate, dried coconut, and I've also been known to have a container with larger snack items.. usually something that if it gets to room temp it won't be a problem. Ham rolled up around pickle or pea shoots, chunks of cheese and cured meat, roasted potatoes. Have chopsticks will travel :)

If you're going to drink, why not get a few bottles of really good craft beer and actually drink something that's good? You won't need 37 of them like the Michelob Ultra and you said it would just be on occasion. The only cider I like is local to Maine, C.F.F. Culture, so I can't help you with the others as I find them too sweet. There are some tasty non-gluten options for beer as well: Sprecher Shakparo, Estrella Daura,and New Planet. Heineken is the lowest in gluten out of mass marketed.

Make something icy with vodka, or whatever, in a "booze only" Nalgene and sip - your choice how much booze to put in. If I'm going to drink I'm going to drink top shelf, period. I totally admit tho that an icy icy just out of a cooler Narragansett is way tasty :)

This link will help you out with drink "recipes" and such, I have a few on there that I like, and other suggestions given are great: http://paleohacks.com/questions/53193/adult-beverages/53207#53207

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on November 10, 2011
at 05:18 AM

"Anything can be damaging based on how much you imbibe. I carry a flask and will have a seltzer in my tote." Best quote all day.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on November 11, 2011
at 03:09 PM

That's how I roll.

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E639bc85fd42430285596434a6515ad5

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on August 17, 2011
at 07:12 PM

Others have given good recommendations regarding what type of alcohol to drink.

I'll throw in my recommendation to have some coconut oil on the days that you drink. It's been shown in rats to protect the liver from the effects of alcohol.

http://jn.nutrition.org/content/134/4/904.full

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on August 17, 2011
at 06:53 PM

I've heard this guy suggesting cysteine may prevent hangovers and the negative effects of alcohol. I'm a bit skeptical, but who knows. It seems like there have been rat studies demonstrating this. Anyway, I bought some and plan to try it out soon:

http://www.ceri.com/alcohol.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cysteine#Reducing_toxic_effects_of_alcohol

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on August 17, 2011
at 05:47 PM

Maybe this is for you : St.Peters Beer

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on August 17, 2011
at 05:55 PM

but it has no gluten ...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 17, 2011
at 05:51 PM

that's a carb & calorie feast which i would not recommend!

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