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surviving the day if you're dead tired

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 18, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Hey all, I need some suggestions here. I suffer from chronic insomnia, and as a result I end up extremely fatigued most of the time. Obviously I need to address my sleep issues, and I have indeed made major improvements on it, but I still have those days where I slept horribly the night before and I'm dead tired.

How do I survive? I find that stuff like coffee doesn't help because it just screws up my sleep even more. I am also not a napper either.

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on May 11, 2012
at 01:54 AM

Have you ever tried Bach's Rescue Remedy? You can get it at GNC for about 10 bucks. I, too, suffer from insomnia and this has been the only thing I've found to put my mind at rest enough to sleep.

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on April 19, 2012
at 04:08 PM

yes, 4000 UI of vitamin D during the day, and magnesium (natural calm) before bed

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on April 19, 2012
at 02:51 AM

A big part of the long-term fix is establishing a very regular schedule of bedtime and rising time. In particular you may find it helpful to get up at the same time every single morning, which is a little easier to manage than a rigid bedtime.

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on April 18, 2012
at 10:32 PM

D should be taken in the morning, Mg in the evening.

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on April 18, 2012
at 10:28 PM

Yep, I developed an irregular heartbeat when chronically sleep deprived. My doctor forbade me to ever use an alarm clock again and that has worked for over 20 years.

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on April 18, 2012
at 10:26 PM

Sleep deprivation increases the likelihood of experiencing heart palpitations, period, so foods that may not normally trigger racing can suddenly take off.

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on April 18, 2012
at 10:25 PM

http://paleohacks.com/questions/112646/coconut-and-anxiety-attacks#axzz1sQxis8cY

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on April 18, 2012
at 10:25 PM

http://lifewithoutsweets.blogspot.ca/search/label/Coconut%20Oil%20and%20Racing%20Heart

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on April 18, 2012
at 10:24 PM

It can be a trigger, like caffeine, licorice, alcohol etc. My cardiologist said he sees it occasionally.

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on April 18, 2012
at 09:59 PM

how might that cause heart palpitations?

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on April 18, 2012
at 09:50 PM

This is a good idea, but if you are doing this + sleep deprived just be aware that it is possible for some people to get heart palpitations. Rare, but don't want it to scare you if it does happen!

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E4f858a9178422502c42b9719690e52c

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on April 18, 2012
at 09:30 PM

Acetyl-l-carnitine seems to sharpen the mind a little and reduce the need for coffee, and is popular with the nootropic/life extension crowd. Commonly combined with lipoic acid which also anecdotally helps a little.

Rhodiola rosea or schizandra are slightly stimulating adaptogens which some people respond very well to. There's a double blind placebo controlled study on pubmed on doctors after night duty who had improved alertness and decision making on rhodiola. I can attest to its effect when I've been sleep deprived. Always worth checking there's no reason not to take such things though, like interactions with medications you might be on. The effects wear off if taken every day so best to use intermittently.

SAD type lamps for a 15min burst on rising and during the day helps keep you more alert by switching off your melatonin production. A dawn simulating lamp can make waking up easier and regulate your cycles, and i guess trying some press ups on waking could do some good :)

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on April 18, 2012
at 11:10 PM

Try not just to survive the day, but fix the problem!

Restoring proper magnesium and zinc levels is critical, taking both before bed is optimal for melatonin levels. Be sure to sleep in total darkness, and even keep lights dim before bed, avoiding any stimulants past noon and not doing or watching anything stimulating before bed.

Rooibos tea is great for reducing cortisol, and really helps calm down the nervous system and improve sleep. Re-balancing your cortisol levels is critical to beating insomnia.

Good luck!

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on April 19, 2012
at 02:51 AM

A big part of the long-term fix is establishing a very regular schedule of bedtime and rising time. In particular you may find it helpful to get up at the same time every single morning, which is a little easier to manage than a rigid bedtime.

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on April 18, 2012
at 10:14 PM

Can't speak to coping, but I discovered last summer that selenium cured my insomnia that I could have sworn was due to stress. 200 micrograms/day -- don't think the timing matters. I didn't take it for sleep issues either so it wasn't a placebo effect. I take it only once or twice a week now as I eat more carbs than I used to and that seems to help. I have the occasional bout still, but now I really know it's stress causing it!

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on April 18, 2012
at 09:30 PM

I have found a breakfast including coconut milk to be terribly helpful on mornings after a night of bad sleep. The MCTs in coconut oil seem to provide a steady source of energy where a lot of other things don't.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on April 18, 2012
at 09:50 PM

This is a good idea, but if you are doing this + sleep deprived just be aware that it is possible for some people to get heart palpitations. Rare, but don't want it to scare you if it does happen!

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on April 18, 2012
at 10:26 PM

Sleep deprivation increases the likelihood of experiencing heart palpitations, period, so foods that may not normally trigger racing can suddenly take off.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on April 18, 2012
at 10:25 PM

http://paleohacks.com/questions/112646/coconut-and-anxiety-attacks#axzz1sQxis8cY

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on April 18, 2012
at 10:25 PM

http://lifewithoutsweets.blogspot.ca/search/label/Coconut%20Oil%20and%20Racing%20Heart

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on April 18, 2012
at 10:24 PM

It can be a trigger, like caffeine, licorice, alcohol etc. My cardiologist said he sees it occasionally.

Ef40e29cee3d4f7b6d60e3473824f1dc

(267)

on April 18, 2012
at 09:59 PM

how might that cause heart palpitations?

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on April 18, 2012
at 10:28 PM

Yep, I developed an irregular heartbeat when chronically sleep deprived. My doctor forbade me to ever use an alarm clock again and that has worked for over 20 years.

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on April 18, 2012
at 09:09 PM

have you tried supplementing with vitamin d and magnesium to help you sleep at night tome? do you sleep in a pitch black room? and what does your diet look like?

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

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on April 18, 2012
at 10:32 PM

D should be taken in the morning, Mg in the evening.

Ef40e29cee3d4f7b6d60e3473824f1dc

(267)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:08 PM

yes, 4000 UI of vitamin D during the day, and magnesium (natural calm) before bed

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