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Question on waking up either with a dry mouth or needing to pee

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 05, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Hi all, I wonder if someone could help with hydration, urination, and sleep.

I either don't drink before bed and wake up with a dry mouth, or... I drink something and wake up in the night to pee. I find it really hard to find the balance.

My question: Has anyone has had a similar experience and have they been able to remedy it?

Thanks.

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on April 17, 2013
at 12:10 PM

thx, good to know

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

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on April 17, 2013
at 11:12 AM

I think the hormone you speak of might be aldosterone fwiw. I could be wrong though...

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

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on December 03, 2012
at 10:12 AM

Have had this all my life, am not too concerned about it.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

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on December 03, 2012
at 10:09 AM

You're right. There's a book about bi-phasic sleeping written by an anthropoligist. Short version: before artificial light people appeared to sleep for a few hours, wake up for an hour or two to chat or have sex, then went back to sleep.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on November 05, 2012
at 07:39 PM

I agree that they can be perfectly normal symptoms, especially as we age, but since a few simple blood panels can rule out those severe diseases, better safe than sorry. Aging does all sorts of wonderful things to our bodies, some not so benign.

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on November 05, 2012
at 07:23 PM

Still, I don't think it makes sense to worry about such severe diseases because you have such common, mild symptoms that are really really normal.

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on November 05, 2012
at 06:56 PM

And you think it's as common as getting up in the middle of the night to pee?

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on November 05, 2012
at 03:58 PM

Uh...no, unless he'd been tested. Diabetes is silent for a loooooong time.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on November 05, 2012
at 03:03 PM

Waking up to urinate is also a symptom of age and enlarged prostate. Dry mouth can be attributed to sleeping with your mouth open.

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on November 05, 2012
at 02:54 PM

Symptoms of type 2 diabetes as well.

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on November 05, 2012
at 03:21 PM

I usually wake up once in the night to pee and have to pee again in the morning, even if I don't drink water the night before. And because of not drinking water, I will feel dehydrated. It sucks!

Something that occurred to me when striving to find a "balance": I read somewhere that humans are more adapted to two 4-hour blocks of sleep, rather than one 8-hour block. Modern life has changed this - it just wouldn't be convenient to do two 4-hour blocks. I know that if I were in the habit of doing the two blocks, the hydration/urination thing wouldn't be a problem.

That's just something I vaguely remember and cannot verify, though. Thoughts/comments?

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

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on December 03, 2012
at 10:09 AM

You're right. There's a book about bi-phasic sleeping written by an anthropoligist. Short version: before artificial light people appeared to sleep for a few hours, wake up for an hour or two to chat or have sex, then went back to sleep.

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32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

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on February 16, 2013
at 01:19 PM

Another reason you wake up to urinate is hormonal: there is an antidiuretic hormone your body produces at sunset to slow down your kidneys and prevent your bladder from filling up. If you underproduce this hormone, your bladder continues to operate at full speed all night.

Did you wet the bed as a child? If so, you probably weren't producing enough of this hormone. Eventually most children grow out of bedwetting bc if the hormone never kicks in, the nervous system matures to the point that the full bladder wakes them up.

I have woken up to pee 2-3 times a night forever. It's annoying, lol. The only thing that helps is to go to bed early and get a good chunk of sleep in before I start waking up.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on April 17, 2013
at 11:12 AM

I think the hormone you speak of might be aldosterone fwiw. I could be wrong though...

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 17, 2013
at 12:10 PM

thx, good to know

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on December 03, 2012
at 05:21 AM

Could be low cortisol. You might need to up your carbs a bit.

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on November 05, 2012
at 06:03 PM

I go through phases where this affects me a lot, and I know very well it correlates with what I am eating, or how I am eating. I just can't pinpoint exactly what causes the problem, but I am slowly leaning towards eating too few calories or food allergies. For the last couple days I have been out of sports due to a knee injury so I have spontaneously reduced my caloric intake by a lot (I went from 3500 to 1600). During this whole time I have been getting up to urinate very frequently, sometimes even 5 minutes after I had just gone. My mouth has also been very dry, but the more water I drink the more I urinate. This could very well be a sign of possibly something more serious but my blood sugar seems to be fine.

Here are other possible reasons:

  • Not enough sodium. Sodium helps you retain water. I suggest you really start salting your food a lot, and see if that helps.
  • Too little calcium? I always thought that maybe I was losing calcium through my urine due to my low intake.
  • Make sure you are getting other electrolytes such as potassium (not to much, balance it out with sodium) and magnesium
  • Food allergies. I find myself urinating a lot when I consume eggs.

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on April 17, 2013
at 09:44 AM

Could this possibly be a symptom of being in ketosis, as keytones are mainly expelled through your urine? I have the same problem, even when I don't drink anything in the evening.

At first I thought it might be water in the food I was eating but I did a little self experiment where I didn't eat any food for a couple of evenings and I still woke up in the night needing to urinate.

My next experiment is going to be to up my carbs for a few days, to make sure I'm not in ketosis and see if that makes a difference.

I'm 30 by the way so wouldn't have thought age would be a factor.

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on February 16, 2013
at 10:55 AM

I have sleep apnea and if I sleep without my bipap I wake up with dry mouth. I have been testing but do not have diabetes and I wake up 3-4 times nightly to pee. Interesting about the calorie intake above. I don't eat enough during the day. So my calorie intake is very low. I keep getting fatter and now I"m wondering if the urgency to pee is also a symptom. I pee very little during the day.

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on November 05, 2012
at 03:47 PM

I as well struggle to find this balance. And to the people suggesting that it's sleep apnea or diabetes... Seriously? Don't you think he would know if he had either of those from the other, more serious symptoms? Dehydration during sleep quite common, and so it getting up to pee in the middle of the night.

Anyway, yes, I experience this as well (and I DON'T have sleep apnea or diabetes). And I agree with what Pecan says--it's better to be hydrated and get up to pee once in the night, splitting your sleep into two, four-hour segments. Ideally it should be like 9:30pm-1:30am and 1:45am- 4:45am. I know that sounds early, but I find that many people, myself included, naturally wake up at 4:45am. I find that when I do this, my day runs quite well. If I only do the second segment (as I tend to stay up til around 1:30am), and no more, I still feel great but have to take a siesta at midday, which is also quite paleo (and practiced around the world).

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on November 05, 2012
at 03:58 PM

Uh...no, unless he'd been tested. Diabetes is silent for a loooooong time.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on November 05, 2012
at 07:39 PM

I agree that they can be perfectly normal symptoms, especially as we age, but since a few simple blood panels can rule out those severe diseases, better safe than sorry. Aging does all sorts of wonderful things to our bodies, some not so benign.

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

(3979)

on November 05, 2012
at 06:56 PM

And you think it's as common as getting up in the middle of the night to pee?

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

(3979)

on November 05, 2012
at 07:23 PM

Still, I don't think it makes sense to worry about such severe diseases because you have such common, mild symptoms that are really really normal.

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on November 05, 2012
at 01:34 PM

Consider being tested for sleep apnea. Waking with a dry mouth and getting up frequently to urinate are both common symptoms

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on November 05, 2012
at 03:03 PM

Waking up to urinate is also a symptom of age and enlarged prostate. Dry mouth can be attributed to sleeping with your mouth open.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on November 05, 2012
at 02:54 PM

Symptoms of type 2 diabetes as well.

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on November 05, 2012
at 01:10 PM

yes i do, i try to drink all throughout the day so it dont happen

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on December 03, 2012
at 05:14 AM

Go to doctor. You may have an enlarged prostate. This can give you the urge to urinate often, especially in the night. It's more common in men over 40 or 50, though. Read a few Super Beta Prostate supplement reviews if you think it's prostate problem. There is ab ingredient in there called beta sitosterol which is clinically proven to benefit prostate health.

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