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Melatonin, GABA, Valerian, 5-HTP and L-Tyrosine, etc. Which is be the week before a woman's period to ward off insomnia?

Commented on August 27, 2013
Created March 17, 2013 at 5:07 PM

In general, I'm not the best sleeper. I typically have to wear earplugs and take a little melatonin to be able to sleep. However, the week prior to my period I suffer insomnia (and I'm the kind of person who suffers tremendously with just 1 night of bad sleep). I up my melatonin intake, but I have no success. Last time, I even tried the melatonin with 5-HTP and L-Tyrosine (I was taking 5-htp and L-Tyrosine daily, but I started feeling really depressed, so I backed off and feel much better now).

Overall, I'm worried about my need to take melatonin to sleep nightly as I've seen conflicting evidence that it might be bad to do....although I feel like I'm doing better than I was in the days of taking prescription sleep medication nightly. I have had a hormone check recently and due to get more testing in about a month. The only issue that showed up was low testosterone and I'm working with the doc on that issue. I'm wondering if one of the other supplements listed above might be more helpful the week before my period.

More info: I take Natural Calm before bed as well and I am very tired at my bedtime, so my main issue is staying asleep rather than falling asleep. I know a lot of people are going to ask about exercise and carb or overall calorie intake and I can assure you that those things are not an influence.

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on August 27, 2013
at 07:45 PM

Definitely do not take L-Tyrosine for sleep. L-Tyrosine should only be taken during the first half of the day, because it's energizing and thus can actually create sleep problems. Of the other ones you have listed, 5-HTP and GABA+Valerian should - if any - promote better sleep.

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on June 01, 2013
at 09:31 AM

sadly not, I can't even buy melatonin at all where I live :(

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on May 30, 2013
at 11:40 PM

Hi celticcavegirl, you mentioned 'slow-release caplets of about 2mg'. I have been trying to track one down in around that dose (~2mg), could you recommend/suggest one (or more). thx. i've tried slow/timed/sustained release melatonin supps in the past, but they never seemed to work any different to the normal ones for me. I also found the ones with No B6 worked better for me, the ones with B6 tended to make me dream a bit too much for my liking.

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on May 14, 2013
at 05:25 AM

Hi celticcavegirl, you mentioned 'slow-release caplets of about 2mg'. I have been trying to track one down in around that dose (~2mg), could you recommend/suggest one (or more). thx. i've tried slow/timed/sustained release melatonin supps in the past, but they never seemed to work any different to the normal ones for me. I also found the ones with No B6 worked better for me, the ones with B6 tended to make me dream a bit too much for my liking.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on May 14, 2013
at 05:24 AM

Hi celticcavegirl, you mentioned 'slow-release caplets of about 2mg'. I have been trying to track one down in around that dose (~2mg), could you recommend/suggest one (or more). thx. i've tried slow/timed/sustained release melatonin supps in the past, but they never seemed to work any different to the normal ones for me. I also found the with No B6 worked better for me, the ones with B6 tended to make me dream a bit too much for my liking.

68655ec9711d207d69a63ebf96b37573

on April 15, 2013
at 10:39 AM

What is the active chemical in Nyquil? Sorry I'm not American so I've not heard of it! If all else fails, try CBT and/or hypnotherapy.

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on March 18, 2013
at 05:55 PM

Oh, forgot to answer about antihistamine - recently was sick and had to take nyquil to be able to breathe to sleep (otherwise I don't take any medication) and that stuff made me sleep like a baby. Is there something that is kinder to my body than nyquil that you might suggest I try? Thanks!

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on March 18, 2013
at 05:52 PM

Now Foods brand, 3mg sized pills (so 3mg or 6mg depending on time of month). The bottle doesn't specify if it's timed release. I was depressed. I've been feeling better now. Part of it may be this dark, cold Ohio winter though.

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on July 30, 2013
at 02:10 PM

I have recently found out that I'm in stage 3 adrenal fatigue, which explains many of the sleep/hormonal problems I'm having. I'm now working with a FDN specialist on this. I will look at the hormonal symptom chart posted as I also have a meeting with a women's health doc in a few weeks. Thanks to all for the replies!

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on July 29, 2013
at 07:59 PM

I can relate.

You could try a small amount of progesterone for those few days. The insomnia is caused by a rapid drop in progesterone. http://www.rd.com/health/wellness/menstrual-insomnia/

I'm sleeping just fine now, all month long. The Bezwecken brand products work well, sublingual at bedtime or cream if you prefer.

if a small amount isn't cutting it, you may need hormone testing at a different time of month or this symptom chart may be enough for the doc to take further action: http://www.cemcor.ubc.ca/help_yourself/handouts/daily_diaries

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on July 01, 2013
at 11:09 AM

I've been taking a combo of 5-HTP, L-theanine and melatonin every night for the past 6 years (I'm a midwife and have really irregular sleep hours). It works great and I've experienced no adverse effects....except a lack of a period...but this is likely caused by other things.

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on March 17, 2013
at 11:47 PM

How much melatonin are you taking, and when? Ideally, you want slow-release caplets of about 2mg, and take it 2hrs before bed time. Often with melatonin, the initial dose is way too high and released too quickly, and you get a 'melatonin hangover' the next day

I had great results with Z12, which contains

4-amino-3-phenyl-butanoic acid HCL (PhGABA) (Phenibut) L-theanine 5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP)

It puts me OUT for a full 8-9 hours, and I'm a terrible sleeper. Interesting that you feel it make you depressed though. Are you 100% sure it was the chems and not PMS? Phenibut is used as a treatment for depression and L-tryptophan and 5-HTP are serotonin precursors...

Have you tried a good old sedating antihistamine?

B41cdb2253976ba9b429dd608d02c21f

(1495)

on March 18, 2013
at 05:52 PM

Now Foods brand, 3mg sized pills (so 3mg or 6mg depending on time of month). The bottle doesn't specify if it's timed release. I was depressed. I've been feeling better now. Part of it may be this dark, cold Ohio winter though.

B41cdb2253976ba9b429dd608d02c21f

(1495)

on March 18, 2013
at 05:55 PM

Oh, forgot to answer about antihistamine - recently was sick and had to take nyquil to be able to breathe to sleep (otherwise I don't take any medication) and that stuff made me sleep like a baby. Is there something that is kinder to my body than nyquil that you might suggest I try? Thanks!

68655ec9711d207d69a63ebf96b37573

on April 15, 2013
at 10:39 AM

What is the active chemical in Nyquil? Sorry I'm not American so I've not heard of it! If all else fails, try CBT and/or hypnotherapy.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on May 14, 2013
at 05:24 AM

Hi celticcavegirl, you mentioned 'slow-release caplets of about 2mg'. I have been trying to track one down in around that dose (~2mg), could you recommend/suggest one (or more). thx. i've tried slow/timed/sustained release melatonin supps in the past, but they never seemed to work any different to the normal ones for me. I also found the with No B6 worked better for me, the ones with B6 tended to make me dream a bit too much for my liking.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on May 14, 2013
at 05:25 AM

Hi celticcavegirl, you mentioned 'slow-release caplets of about 2mg'. I have been trying to track one down in around that dose (~2mg), could you recommend/suggest one (or more). thx. i've tried slow/timed/sustained release melatonin supps in the past, but they never seemed to work any different to the normal ones for me. I also found the ones with No B6 worked better for me, the ones with B6 tended to make me dream a bit too much for my liking.

68655ec9711d207d69a63ebf96b37573

on June 01, 2013
at 09:31 AM

sadly not, I can't even buy melatonin at all where I live :(

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on May 30, 2013
at 11:40 PM

Hi celticcavegirl, you mentioned 'slow-release caplets of about 2mg'. I have been trying to track one down in around that dose (~2mg), could you recommend/suggest one (or more). thx. i've tried slow/timed/sustained release melatonin supps in the past, but they never seemed to work any different to the normal ones for me. I also found the ones with No B6 worked better for me, the ones with B6 tended to make me dream a bit too much for my liking.

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