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Do you pick sex or sleep?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created May 09, 2011 at 3:14 PM

I have cortisol issues. Sleep helps. Sex is relaxing. So, which is more important? I'm not in realtionship, so times there are sex are random and unpredictable. But, on those nights, I generally get little sleep before having to go to work. Is it better for my body to get my 7-8 hours in of sleep, and be sexually frustrated (which just adds to stress), or not be sexually frustrated and have some sleepless nights here and there?

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on August 24, 2012
at 07:13 PM

lalabomba- I also found oral sex more and more "meh" as endometriosis gets worse, I don't know why, but they seemed related. Using more full-body play, like sensual massages, as well as nipple play helped get me more "ready" for oral, now I will enjoy it if there's a lot of play working up to it.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on July 04, 2012
at 05:35 PM

Haha. Um, I could use a more structured and relaxing life in general, I suppose.

D45e43b08cd99a04f5d4294a871e1078

(1010)

on July 02, 2012
at 12:08 AM

I'll have sex with you

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on March 10, 2012
at 11:08 PM

+1 to counter the down vote.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on February 24, 2012
at 06:53 PM

wow! downvoted for choosing sleep over sex as a tired mother of two babies?? obviously a MAN doing that.

66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

(12407)

on February 16, 2012
at 08:39 PM

****snicker****

5aa057aabe02e83299e1e2137eab05e2

(108)

on February 16, 2012
at 06:54 PM

Quilt - you had an orgasm in an MRI machine?

5aa057aabe02e83299e1e2137eab05e2

(108)

on February 16, 2012
at 06:51 PM

Thanks Paleopax

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 07, 2011
at 02:06 PM

6 hour ingasm. Sorry, but it sounds boring. I prefer explosive, earth shaking orgasms. Call me old fashioned.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 07, 2011
at 02:05 PM

Valkyrie, if sex ends in an orgasm (which it always does for my lady LOL), then sleep can never be far behind.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 07, 2011
at 02:03 PM

I agree. Your child and pets should not sleep with your regularly. And sex in a relationship should be a priority for health and closeness. I'm sure there are perfectly healthy relationships where there is very little sex, but I'm guessing they are rare. And ladies, if the sex isn't good, change it. This isn't magic. You know what turns you on. How about you man up (pun intended) and tell your man what trips your trigger? He wants to give you screaming orgasms all night long (pretty sure most men want to do this) but he's probably pretty clueless.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 07, 2011
at 01:58 PM

Can I just say that as a man, there is not a bad time for sex. Mornings, arternoons, night time, whenever. Pretty sure I am not the only man who feels this way, so ladies, if you don't want to stay up late, do that little thing that you know drives your man crazy after work. Have a good time, and then you can get to bed early. :)

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on October 21, 2011
at 05:48 PM

"Nipple message" = Tuning in to Tokyo :D

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21430)

on July 08, 2011
at 07:01 PM

+1 for the "porking" tag.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on July 08, 2011
at 03:50 PM

Research has shown that just repeating the word nipple over and over again leads to significant increases in mirth and longevity. At least in my case.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on July 08, 2011
at 05:44 AM

What's your diet look like.. cause I need to hip to that, with the quickness!

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on July 08, 2011
at 03:47 AM

Sex = less cortisol. At least for me it does. ;)

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on July 08, 2011
at 01:37 AM

@ lalabomba- have you looked into the possibility you might have vaginismus? Vaginismus isn't related to endometriosis and might be the underlying cause of your painful sex issues. I have it and its pretty debilitating in that area. You cure it with physical therapy either at home on your own or with a specialized therapist. Check out this website for more info (including to see if you think this might be causing your pain) http://www.vaginismus-awareness-network.org/

25329057c9d5f6364a74787c8c2302e7

(806)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:59 PM

Not meant as a parenting critique, but I'm not sure I understand the problem of '9 year old that likes to sleep with us'. 9 year olds often like to play video games all day too. That doesn't mean you should let them... When I ran scared to my parents room I was calmed down and sent back to my room.

25329057c9d5f6364a74787c8c2302e7

(806)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:52 PM

Too true Carly. Given that nipple suckling is natural for woman after having children, and it is something that benefits the child, there is probably an evolutionary bias toward woman who enjoy it. Relaxation is enjoyment, and oxytocin is a relaxant, no? Also, The Quilt, I highly doubt oncologist enjoy giving their 'victims' chemo. Perhaps they don't have the same philosophy as you, and they may be turning a blind eye to legitimate science, but odds are they aren't a generally sociopathic bunch...

1fc9c11cf23b2f62ac78979de933ad83

(2435)

on May 12, 2011
at 08:49 PM

Thanks Dr. K. Though I'm still nursing, so not all hope is lost.

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on May 12, 2011
at 06:23 PM

This converstation/thread is brilliant haha :D

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on May 12, 2011
at 06:23 PM

Hehe, yes Dr K luuurrrrvvvveeees the sex ;D quite right to!

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on May 12, 2011
at 06:22 PM

Oral does nothing for you? Forgive me but it's being done wrong then!

60199d3a580a4e17969059609e48e678

(883)

on May 12, 2011
at 02:10 AM

its a bit TMI but oral does nothing for me so there isnt any point in trying to get my rocks off that way, its penetration or I can't go *shrugs* everyone is different. I still please my hubby, but I personally cannot get release due to the pain. its very frustrating to be honest. I know I dont have to "get off" in order to enjoy myself but I guess I am greedy and i like to "get off", though i don't see whats greedy about that but people tend to think its greedy to want to feel release.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on May 11, 2011
at 11:30 PM

alas indeed, semirade! I'm glad you survived though - not everybody does. When my libido seemed to diminish I had very mixed feelings - glad for less roller coaster of distraction/frustration, but sad for the feeling of some important part of 'me' going away (not that I ever get to DO anything about it though, now that it seems to be coming back just a little).

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on May 11, 2011
at 04:01 PM

Kamal, I think that is the difference between scientists and medical doctors.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on May 11, 2011
at 03:53 PM

Forgive me for wandering into none-of-my-business territory, but that implies only one kind of sex (and mandatory at that??) - do I read that right? There are *many* ways to have lots of fun and get all the oxytocin you need (I hear that's important). For both people, assuming both are willing of course.

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 11, 2011
at 02:54 PM

@valkyrie: I never made any claims to defend.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 11, 2011
at 02:46 PM

and where are yours? sorry, some of us still value privacy and safety.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 11, 2011
at 02:39 PM

It's not? You'd rather pay three thousand a month for tamoxifen after they do your lumpectomy or just use nipple massage to prevent it all together? If I am a woman I am pretty pissed the 1991 NEJM article has been largely ignored by most docs. Some of us did not miss it. My wife remain grateful. Her sister thought it was a joke and seven hrs ago developed breast ca. Now she is a messages too. My wife also does not do mammograms. No need too when you do this and optimized your vitamin D and replace your hormones appropriately. Everyone has a choice. My job is to at least mention it

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on May 11, 2011
at 02:10 PM

haa! sho nuff is!

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 11, 2011
at 01:17 PM

Matthew- oh yes, oxytocin definitely shows much promise. but cohort data is not valuable enough to pay money for--i was just arguing semantics.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on May 11, 2011
at 11:23 AM

Kamal, I think Dr. K has been reading this hypothosis http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7647345

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on May 11, 2011
at 11:22 AM

Kamal, I think Dr. K has been reading this hypothosis ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7647345

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on May 11, 2011
at 11:22 AM

Kamal, I think Dr. K has been reading this hypothosis ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7647345

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on May 11, 2011
at 10:54 AM

Kamal, I think Dr. K has been reading this hypothosis http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7647345 It is a nice idea but I'm not sure anyone has followed up on the hypothosis yet.

A480640a53eb5dc8966f49141942f705

on May 11, 2011
at 04:41 AM

it's what got you into trouble in the first place, innit!

A480640a53eb5dc8966f49141942f705

on May 11, 2011
at 04:40 AM

Yes, that advice should be broadcast, and spread point-to-point as well, for the happy medium is the massage.

3a833804187fe8926214e6c0bd8a0766

(1023)

on May 11, 2011
at 03:56 AM

Haha - "Tantra baby!"

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 11, 2011
at 03:31 AM

@valkyrie: then it didn't happen. nothing to see here. move along etc

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 11, 2011
at 02:41 AM

Although nipple sucking may very well be the best advice given on paleohacks, I highly doubt that randomized trials have been conducted on its health benefits. Thus, there may be many many confounders. Yes, even nipple sucking is not a sure thing.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 11, 2011
at 02:16 AM

Ooooh, do not tell Dr. K that.

D8195c5ae6c967027a3133d74969d0e1

(543)

on May 11, 2011
at 01:20 AM

I actually might have mentioned "what is libido" - but then I had Prostate cancer - so I don't have libido any more - alas - vascular damage from radiation! ugh! I think paleo was on the late side for me!

60199d3a580a4e17969059609e48e678

(883)

on May 11, 2011
at 12:52 AM

my endometriosis seems to have gotten worse, regardless of my health so i wish that was the case :\ I think its hormone imbalance, because I have all the symptoms of a woman hitting menopause but I am only 21 and this has only started happening when i got off of my birth control pills about 3 years ago. Its very strange.

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on May 10, 2011
at 02:51 AM

...TV it is for now.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 02:25 AM

This is one of my go too's.......especially before a surgery day with a difficult case. My wife is more critical to my patients outcomes than they even know. Sex can be on fire.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 02:24 AM

endometriosis will get better as you get healthier.....i have had complete reversals with women. Its all about insulin and sex steroid balance.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 02:23 AM

Sex must be at the top of the list for paleo and age management......if your sex steroid status rocks you are in prime health. If you have angina below the belt in 8 yrs you'll have angina in your chest. Data......research truth in posting. Have sex for long healthy life. No excuses......at all.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 02:20 AM

then you are not doing it right.......or your brain damaged. Nothing lights a pineal gland up like a good old fashion orgasm. My functional MRI shows that big time. Pretty amazing the things we are finding out now about the brain with functional MRI

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 02:17 AM

you can do it....a baby can or a spouse a GF a BF or a friend.....it does not matter.....just do it. This honestly is the best advice ever given on PH and no one but you two will ever get. People pay money for this data.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 02:15 AM

sherpa.....all it takes is an erect nipple three to five minutes. Just like a suckling baby does to a mom. Oxytocin is incredible powerful. It confers a hige reduction in breast Ca risk for women too. If you optimize D and do this.....80% rediction in risk. Not one oncologist I know tell this to women? Why? they like selling ribbons and chemo drugs to their victims. And this info needs to be broadcast.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 10, 2011
at 02:10 AM

Thanks Dr. K. That's the kind of info I was looking for.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on May 10, 2011
at 01:25 AM

.....and therein lies the joke.....

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 10, 2011
at 01:20 AM

Weird downvote. I don't know what's wrong with liking meat, sex and running more than sleep?

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 10, 2011
at 01:19 AM

Dr. K, do you mean something different by a "nipple message" than a massage? Or is it just your auto correct? Because every time you talk about it the wording is "nipple message" which sounds lovely, but I'm not really sure what message I am sending to my nipples.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 01:08 AM

exogenous melatonin is the third choice with ten minute before bed exercise fourth choice.......and the orgasm does not have to be with someone else......self induced still counts hormonally.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 01:07 AM

and val......orgasm immediately reduces cortisol. I will tell you that for free. And nipple message is a easy way of doing it because of the oxytocin release too......but not as effective as orgasm.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 01:05 AM

Sleeping can help you out short term.....but it does not confer longevity. Sex does. You know my reason d'etre is to be healthy and live over 120 yrs. Paleo is part of that but I wont do things that sacrifice my goal of 120 yrs healthy. I plan to not see my collegues professionally ever again.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 10, 2011
at 12:56 AM

lucky lady! i do on occasion.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 10, 2011
at 12:55 AM

and what does sleeping one hour after a fun night do? especially if you have cortisol issues?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 12:31 AM

sex....why? It confers longevity while sleeping longer than seven hours a night confers shortened longevity. Another little known paleo fact.

74f5d2ff6567edd456d31dfb9b92af61

(5227)

on May 09, 2011
at 10:21 PM

I fall asleep afterwards. :)

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 10:11 PM

No way. Me and the internet don't do pics.

5bccbf50a074175a5371b135311ebff2

(283)

on May 09, 2011
at 09:26 PM

this is why I am never marrying again...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 09, 2011
at 09:22 PM

I bet there are a lot of necrophiles who will be happy to read the above.

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 09, 2011
at 09:21 PM

@valkyrie: pics or it didn't happen

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 09:19 PM

I think that is common for men. With the ladies, one doesn't as often cause the other.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 09:18 PM

hahahahaha. love it.

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(5136)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:42 PM

it's ok. you should try some, I'll bet you have great legs.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:20 PM

No relationship. Sex doesn't lead to sleep - so....

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:19 PM

I DON'T have a relationship!

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:19 PM

Yes, lucky - sex doesn't often lead to sleep for me.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:18 PM

Ben - I had a jacked body pre-Paleo. Now I'm a little, um, curvy. Made no difference in the lack of men there was to choose from!

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:17 PM

Karin - uh, that highly depends on who the night was spent with! ;)

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:07 PM

Ah I see, I obviously lead a sheltered life :) I also have little experience with wearing party dresses.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 09, 2011
at 05:52 PM

Don't get me wrong LuckyBastard (I always feel guilty after I write your name), I am happy to go sleepless in the one case (and not so happy when it happens due to Natural Calm).

B4ec9ce369e43ea83f06ee645169cee0

on May 09, 2011
at 05:33 PM

Sara... don't worry it gets better when the children get older! We have twin 15 year old daughters and things have been improving since they were about 12 and not needing us as much. Especially when they started to sleep in on weekends... :)

0d50f54d2c57d74806be35d916f8dc74

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on May 09, 2011
at 05:28 PM

I'd be happy just to have to make that choice! Right now my options are sleep or stay up reading...

0d50f54d2c57d74806be35d916f8dc74

(634)

on May 09, 2011
at 05:27 PM

I'd be happy just to have to make that choice!

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(5136)

on May 09, 2011
at 05:21 PM

yeah, still wearing last night's party dress with some disheveled bedroom hair in the morning.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on May 09, 2011
at 05:19 PM

Hee, Matthew! The walk home in the morning in the clothes you were wearing the night before. :)

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on May 09, 2011
at 05:13 PM

"walk of shame"?

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:47 PM

I'm also married, with a 9 year old that likes to sleep with us, as well as 2 dogs and a cat. That's why given the chance for sex, I'll take it!

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(5136)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:45 PM

yes, "sleep" is very satisfying, and when you "sleep" with yourself, you don't have to do the "walk of shame" in the morning.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:45 PM

OMG. LB. You made me snort. Hahahaha.

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(5136)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:45 PM

YES! Also, possibly "the beast with two backs" because that sounds vaguely delicious.

66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

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on May 09, 2011
at 04:43 PM

what about "porking". it's old school and meat-related :)

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(5136)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:40 PM

"Boning" - thats should be the offical paleo term for it.

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on May 09, 2011
at 04:35 PM

@gone2croatan - at first I read your comment as "Boring always wins." - meaning any answer that opts for sex over anything is a "gimme". ;-p Then I realized you said "boning".

D8195c5ae6c967027a3133d74969d0e1

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on May 09, 2011
at 04:31 PM

as an ol' single man - I never have to "look my best" - it's part of my exercise routine -- I'm talking about sleep of course!!!! :)

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

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on May 09, 2011
at 04:30 PM

Eh. You never know. And a woman with muscles can be very desirable.

66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

(12407)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:29 PM

that sucks, Thomas. i'm out like a light after either. once i started taking magnesium, my gf always makes the a joke about the "real natural calm" hah.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 09, 2011
at 04:27 PM

Actually Magnesium keeps me up if I have it before sleep (and it's not because of stomach upset either). Also, sex wakes me up, too. I hear about men who fall asleep right after sex, but I am the exact opposite.

1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

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on May 09, 2011
at 04:18 PM

Boning always wins.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 09, 2011
at 04:06 PM

Somehow Sherpa always gives answers that I like!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 09, 2011
at 04:06 PM

"Jacked"? Given the moniker, I would assume Valkyrie is a woman.

A65499f2f8c65602881550fe309cd48c

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on May 09, 2011
at 04:01 PM

yes...but a satisfied zombie :)

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

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on May 09, 2011
at 03:51 PM

heh, love it. beggars can't be choosers where I live. so finding a little afternoon delight is just asking a lot!

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at 03:51 PM

I am a zombie after the sleepless nights!

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Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on May 09, 2011
at 08:49 PM

i have a three year old and a one year old who wake up at five thirty every. damn. morning.

SLEEP. ill have sex when im dead.

wait, what?

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on May 10, 2011
at 01:25 AM

.....and therein lies the joke.....

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 09:18 PM

hahahahaha. love it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 09, 2011
at 09:22 PM

I bet there are a lot of necrophiles who will be happy to read the above.

A480640a53eb5dc8966f49141942f705

on May 11, 2011
at 04:41 AM

it's what got you into trouble in the first place, innit!

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on May 11, 2011
at 02:10 PM

haa! sho nuff is!

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on February 24, 2012
at 06:53 PM

wow! downvoted for choosing sleep over sex as a tired mother of two babies?? obviously a MAN doing that.

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on March 10, 2012
at 11:08 PM

+1 to counter the down vote.

D45e43b08cd99a04f5d4294a871e1078

(1010)

on July 02, 2012
at 12:08 AM

I'll have sex with you

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(5136)

on May 09, 2011
at 03:32 PM

love yourself. often. now and again get someone else to do it too if they're lucky.

taking yourself to dinner/a movie/the bar and chatting yourself up is wholly optional.

or you could just start seeing someone who prefers to have sex in the afternoon.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 03:51 PM

heh, love it. beggars can't be choosers where I live. so finding a little afternoon delight is just asking a lot!

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(5136)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:45 PM

yes, "sleep" is very satisfying, and when you "sleep" with yourself, you don't have to do the "walk of shame" in the morning.

D8195c5ae6c967027a3133d74969d0e1

(543)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:31 PM

as an ol' single man - I never have to "look my best" - it's part of my exercise routine -- I'm talking about sleep of course!!!! :)

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(5136)

on May 09, 2011
at 05:21 PM

yeah, still wearing last night's party dress with some disheveled bedroom hair in the morning.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 09, 2011
at 05:19 PM

Hee, Matthew! The walk home in the morning in the clothes you were wearing the night before. :)

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:07 PM

Ah I see, I obviously lead a sheltered life :) I also have little experience with wearing party dresses.

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(5136)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:42 PM

it's ok. you should try some, I'll bet you have great legs.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on May 09, 2011
at 05:13 PM

"walk of shame"?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 07, 2011
at 01:58 PM

Can I just say that as a man, there is not a bad time for sex. Mornings, arternoons, night time, whenever. Pretty sure I am not the only man who feels this way, so ladies, if you don't want to stay up late, do that little thing that you know drives your man crazy after work. Have a good time, and then you can get to bed early. :)

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7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

on May 09, 2011
at 03:31 PM

I would always pick the sex! I can make up the sleep another time. I do okay on less sleep, though, so for me it's a no brainer.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 03:51 PM

I am a zombie after the sleepless nights!

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on May 09, 2011
at 04:35 PM

@gone2croatan - at first I read your comment as "Boring always wins." - meaning any answer that opts for sex over anything is a "gimme". ;-p Then I realized you said "boning".

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(5136)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:45 PM

YES! Also, possibly "the beast with two backs" because that sounds vaguely delicious.

A65499f2f8c65602881550fe309cd48c

(3501)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:01 PM

yes...but a satisfied zombie :)

0d50f54d2c57d74806be35d916f8dc74

(634)

on May 09, 2011
at 05:27 PM

I'd be happy just to have to make that choice!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:06 PM

Somehow Sherpa always gives answers that I like!

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:17 PM

Karin - uh, that highly depends on who the night was spent with! ;)

0d50f54d2c57d74806be35d916f8dc74

(634)

on May 09, 2011
at 05:28 PM

I'd be happy just to have to make that choice! Right now my options are sleep or stay up reading...

1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

(6550)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:18 PM

Boning always wins.

Medium avatar

(5136)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:40 PM

"Boning" - thats should be the offical paleo term for it.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:45 PM

OMG. LB. You made me snort. Hahahaha.

66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

(12407)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:43 PM

what about "porking". it's old school and meat-related :)

8
B3c62d89cd47b7d7209b6a99243d0ded

on May 09, 2011
at 04:27 PM

I am utterly certain that mastrubation is historic and paleo, and a much better choice than watching tv as a way to relax before bedtime.

If you have a partner, friend, or lover who is willing to trade closeness and orgasms, that is even sweeter balm to the soul.

Your love life may vary.

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on May 10, 2011
at 02:51 AM

...TV it is for now.

6
351cbf133b44fb7a1b90781e148d28d7

on July 08, 2011
at 04:44 AM

Sleep. I'm single, and I personally don't believe in casual sex - I refuse to put my health in the hands of a stranger.

You have to understand, though, that I'm a loner, and I've never really experienced sexual frustration. I love sex as much as the next person, but I don't feel deprived without it. What works for me probably doesn't work for the average Joe or Jane.

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5bccbf50a074175a5371b135311ebff2

(283)

on May 09, 2011
at 09:27 PM

I want both 50/50... but I will put priorities in this order: Meat, Sex, Running, Sleep

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 10, 2011
at 01:20 AM

Weird downvote. I don't know what's wrong with liking meat, sex and running more than sleep?

5
62f89aa727cf3ce77c36651347cabc14

(884)

on July 08, 2011
at 01:05 AM

I've heard the phrase "Sleep when you're dead," but I'm fairly certain that it's illegal to have sex when you're dead.

Ergo, sex.

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C0d63e15a4e21b29c49d0380d87894b3

on July 01, 2012
at 09:57 PM

Im a mean wife, I chose quick sex so I can get to sleep and still reap the benefits of both :P

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Medium avatar

(19479)

on July 08, 2011
at 12:50 PM

do-you-pick-sex-or-sleep?

3
22212e9ba2a041e6da6c963d4d41615a

(5773)

on May 09, 2011
at 08:51 PM

Sometimes I choose sex in order to sleep!

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 09:19 PM

I think that is common for men. With the ladies, one doesn't as often cause the other.

74f5d2ff6567edd456d31dfb9b92af61

(5227)

on May 09, 2011
at 10:21 PM

I fall asleep afterwards. :)

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 10, 2011
at 12:56 AM

lucky lady! i do on occasion.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 02:25 AM

This is one of my go too's.......especially before a surgery day with a difficult case. My wife is more critical to my patients outcomes than they even know. Sex can be on fire.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 07, 2011
at 02:05 PM

Valkyrie, if sex ends in an orgasm (which it always does for my lady LOL), then sleep can never be far behind.

3
5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:55 PM

I suspect that if you consistently choose sleep over sex in a relationship, you won't be having much of a relationship for long. Besides, what are you, Sting? It doesn't take that long... :P

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:19 PM

I DON'T have a relationship!

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:20 PM

No relationship. Sex doesn't lead to sleep - so....

3a833804187fe8926214e6c0bd8a0766

(1023)

on May 11, 2011
at 03:56 AM

Haha - "Tantra baby!"

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 07, 2011
at 02:06 PM

6 hour ingasm. Sorry, but it sounds boring. I prefer explosive, earth shaking orgasms. Call me old fashioned.

3
66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

on May 09, 2011
at 04:21 PM

why choose? sex is more effective than natural calm...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 09, 2011
at 05:52 PM

Don't get me wrong LuckyBastard (I always feel guilty after I write your name), I am happy to go sleepless in the one case (and not so happy when it happens due to Natural Calm).

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:19 PM

Yes, lucky - sex doesn't often lead to sleep for me.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:27 PM

Actually Magnesium keeps me up if I have it before sleep (and it's not because of stomach upset either). Also, sex wakes me up, too. I hear about men who fall asleep right after sex, but I am the exact opposite.

66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

(12407)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:29 PM

that sucks, Thomas. i'm out like a light after either. once i started taking magnesium, my gf always makes the a joke about the "real natural calm" hah.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 02:20 AM

then you are not doing it right.......or your brain damaged. Nothing lights a pineal gland up like a good old fashion orgasm. My functional MRI shows that big time. Pretty amazing the things we are finding out now about the brain with functional MRI

66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

(12407)

on February 16, 2012
at 08:39 PM

****snicker****

5aa057aabe02e83299e1e2137eab05e2

(108)

on February 16, 2012
at 06:54 PM

Quilt - you had an orgasm in an MRI machine?

2
Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on July 08, 2011
at 02:06 PM

Always sex and orgasm - "la petite mort" (little death) - because when I float back down from my trip to heaven I'll sleep then. Technical Note: You'll be working your lower back, hip flexors, and glutes through their full range of motion, as well as your chest, shoulders, triceps, hamstrings, quadriceps, and abs for umm.. staminia :) Make up for the sleep later.

2
072fd69647b0e765bb4b11532569f16d

(3717)

on May 11, 2011
at 02:14 AM

Hell, I've slept every night for the last 4 years. Guess what I haven't had? Yeah, I've got all the damn sleep I need. No brainer.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 11, 2011
at 02:16 AM

Ooooh, do not tell Dr. K that.

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on May 12, 2011
at 06:23 PM

Hehe, yes Dr K luuurrrrvvvveeees the sex ;D quite right to!

2
2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

(919)

on May 09, 2011
at 07:22 PM

Both - but waking up can be a bit of an anti-climax

2
60199d3a580a4e17969059609e48e678

on May 09, 2011
at 05:01 PM

I pick sleep, but sex happens regularly. Only reason I pick sleep over sex is that I have a medical condition (endometriosis) that causes sex to be unbearably painful 90% of the time, the other 10% is uncomfortable but bearable.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 02:24 AM

endometriosis will get better as you get healthier.....i have had complete reversals with women. Its all about insulin and sex steroid balance.

60199d3a580a4e17969059609e48e678

(883)

on May 11, 2011
at 12:52 AM

my endometriosis seems to have gotten worse, regardless of my health so i wish that was the case :\ I think its hormone imbalance, because I have all the symptoms of a woman hitting menopause but I am only 21 and this has only started happening when i got off of my birth control pills about 3 years ago. Its very strange.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on May 11, 2011
at 03:53 PM

Forgive me for wandering into none-of-my-business territory, but that implies only one kind of sex (and mandatory at that??) - do I read that right? There are *many* ways to have lots of fun and get all the oxytocin you need (I hear that's important). For both people, assuming both are willing of course.

60199d3a580a4e17969059609e48e678

(883)

on May 12, 2011
at 02:10 AM

its a bit TMI but oral does nothing for me so there isnt any point in trying to get my rocks off that way, its penetration or I can't go *shrugs* everyone is different. I still please my hubby, but I personally cannot get release due to the pain. its very frustrating to be honest. I know I dont have to "get off" in order to enjoy myself but I guess I am greedy and i like to "get off", though i don't see whats greedy about that but people tend to think its greedy to want to feel release.

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on May 12, 2011
at 06:22 PM

Oral does nothing for you? Forgive me but it's being done wrong then!

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(2169)

on July 08, 2011
at 01:37 AM

@ lalabomba- have you looked into the possibility you might have vaginismus? Vaginismus isn't related to endometriosis and might be the underlying cause of your painful sex issues. I have it and its pretty debilitating in that area. You cure it with physical therapy either at home on your own or with a specialized therapist. Check out this website for more info (including to see if you think this might be causing your pain) http://www.vaginismus-awareness-network.org/

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on August 24, 2012
at 07:13 PM

lalabomba- I also found oral sex more and more "meh" as endometriosis gets worse, I don't know why, but they seemed related. Using more full-body play, like sensual massages, as well as nipple play helped get me more "ready" for oral, now I will enjoy it if there's a lot of play working up to it.

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1fc9c11cf23b2f62ac78979de933ad83

(2435)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:39 PM

I'm married. More often than not, we choose sleep. (Also have two small children sleeping in our bed) Sex, if AWESOME, can leave you so happy and rejuvenated so you don't need as much sleep, but that's happened, all of, like a handful of times in the past 8 years I've had a sex life... There's a possibility that this happens every time YOU do it, in which case, I'd pick the sex.

5bccbf50a074175a5371b135311ebff2

(283)

on May 09, 2011
at 09:26 PM

this is why I am never marrying again...

B4ec9ce369e43ea83f06ee645169cee0

on May 09, 2011
at 05:33 PM

Sara... don't worry it gets better when the children get older! We have twin 15 year old daughters and things have been improving since they were about 12 and not needing us as much. Especially when they started to sleep in on weekends... :)

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:47 PM

I'm also married, with a 9 year old that likes to sleep with us, as well as 2 dogs and a cat. That's why given the chance for sex, I'll take it!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 10, 2011
at 02:23 AM

Sex must be at the top of the list for paleo and age management......if your sex steroid status rocks you are in prime health. If you have angina below the belt in 8 yrs you'll have angina in your chest. Data......research truth in posting. Have sex for long healthy life. No excuses......at all.

1fc9c11cf23b2f62ac78979de933ad83

(2435)

on May 12, 2011
at 08:49 PM

Thanks Dr. K. Though I'm still nursing, so not all hope is lost.

25329057c9d5f6364a74787c8c2302e7

(806)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:59 PM

Not meant as a parenting critique, but I'm not sure I understand the problem of '9 year old that likes to sleep with us'. 9 year olds often like to play video games all day too. That doesn't mean you should let them... When I ran scared to my parents room I was calmed down and sent back to my room.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 07, 2011
at 02:03 PM

I agree. Your child and pets should not sleep with your regularly. And sex in a relationship should be a priority for health and closeness. I'm sure there are perfectly healthy relationships where there is very little sex, but I'm guessing they are rare. And ladies, if the sex isn't good, change it. This isn't magic. You know what turns you on. How about you man up (pun intended) and tell your man what trips your trigger? He wants to give you screaming orgasms all night long (pretty sure most men want to do this) but he's probably pretty clueless.

1
246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21430)

on September 07, 2013
at 12:44 AM

I'm a "morning person" in this regard. Nothing starts the day off better.

1
76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

on July 02, 2012
at 12:54 AM

I always choose sex over sleep...and she's never awoken once while I was doing it...and the ladies thought they were the only ones who "hover".

Truth.

1
31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on July 01, 2012
at 09:46 PM

i know i get much sounder sleep, even if it's much shorter, after a night with my husband.

1
Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on May 10, 2011
at 11:53 PM

I think I saw somewhere a comment that Paleo reduced libido in men. But I can tell you that has NOT happened to me - if anything the reverse. And this is a real problem because sex is pretty much gone from my life.

And I totally regret reading this question because now I'm going to be thinking about it - in detail - for days :-)

Oh, on the sleep thing. Hell I never get enough sleep. What's a little less? Being a guy, rational thinking usually goes out the window the instant there's a whiff of sex to be had. At least that's how I remember it :-)

D8195c5ae6c967027a3133d74969d0e1

(543)

on May 11, 2011
at 01:20 AM

I actually might have mentioned "what is libido" - but then I had Prostate cancer - so I don't have libido any more - alas - vascular damage from radiation! ugh! I think paleo was on the late side for me!

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on May 11, 2011
at 11:30 PM

alas indeed, semirade! I'm glad you survived though - not everybody does. When my libido seemed to diminish I had very mixed feelings - glad for less roller coaster of distraction/frustration, but sad for the feeling of some important part of 'me' going away (not that I ever get to DO anything about it though, now that it seems to be coming back just a little).

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on July 08, 2011
at 05:44 AM

What's your diet look like.. cause I need to hip to that, with the quickness!

0
Medium avatar

on July 08, 2011
at 03:46 AM

Happily married 17 years here. And my choice is sex, baby. Or better yet, both. Have sex, sleep in. The best combination.

0
26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

on July 08, 2011
at 03:24 AM

I choose both, because sex right before bed doesn't set back my sleep by more than 30 minutes.

Also there are many other times/places to do it other than right before sleep at night/in bed.

valkyrie, you need to nail down a more structured and relaxing sexual situation, so you can work around your schedule and get the best of both worlds.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on July 04, 2012
at 05:35 PM

Haha. Um, I could use a more structured and relaxing life in general, I suppose.

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A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

(3761)

on May 09, 2011
at 03:56 PM

If you have a cortisol problem, I suggest picking sleep.

When you get that under control and have a jacked-Paleo body, you'll probably get more sex!

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 06:18 PM

Ben - I had a jacked body pre-Paleo. Now I'm a little, um, curvy. Made no difference in the lack of men there was to choose from!

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 09, 2011
at 09:21 PM

@valkyrie: pics or it didn't happen

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 09, 2011
at 10:11 PM

No way. Me and the internet don't do pics.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:06 PM

"Jacked"? Given the moniker, I would assume Valkyrie is a woman.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

(531)

on May 11, 2011
at 02:46 PM

and where are yours? sorry, some of us still value privacy and safety.

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

(3761)

on May 09, 2011
at 04:30 PM

Eh. You never know. And a woman with muscles can be very desirable.

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 11, 2011
at 03:31 AM

@valkyrie: then it didn't happen. nothing to see here. move along etc

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 11, 2011
at 02:54 PM

@valkyrie: I never made any claims to defend.

Medium avatar

(297)

on July 08, 2011
at 03:47 AM

Sex = less cortisol. At least for me it does. ;)

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