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Could ground beef be causing my excessive sleeping?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 06, 2011 at 7:08 PM

Firstly, let me say I am nowhere near 100% paleo, but last time I tried it I felt really good. I bought this (3lbs) of ground beef on sale last week and it is 80%/20%. I ate it all last week as lettuce wraps for lunch and all this week I am eating it as a spaghetti squash sauce. Its sooo fatty. Is this normal? I usually try to buy at least 85-95% lean ground beef, so I am surprised at the amount of fat this has in it. That being said, I have never had a problem with eating lots of fat while on paleo. My problem is I feel tired all the time, and its not just tiredness, I can actually go to sleep whenever I want! Its becoming a little weird cos I keep sleeping as soon as I get home from work and then usually get up for dinner and then go back to bed. I think it either has something to do with the ground beef or the fact that I stopped taking calcium and vitamin D and omega 3 fish oil supplements last week because I was too lazy to get them out. Could my eating crappy ground beef everyday be causing some sort of vitamin deficiency that is making me tired?

edit: "sorry for being so sketchy in my question.. I am not too great at forum posting"

6f4425e3c7dc0efe60da531c5d991487

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on February 25, 2013
at 03:35 PM

+1 for admitting the popcorn binges. :)

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

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on September 14, 2011
at 12:30 AM

And let me know if I can be of more help to you...

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

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on September 14, 2011
at 12:30 AM

Joy, take your bodyweight x.72 to get your lean body mass. Now multiply that number x 10. This is your daily caloric need. Make yourself a diet consisting of about 60% fat, 35% protein, 5% carbs with carbs coming from green vegetables. Include some beef, some chicken, some fish, some pork, and some whole eggs in your diet. As you burn bodyfat away with this you will have improved quality of sleep and eventually end up being less tired. The increased GH from your exercise and diet will also improve quality of sleep and leave you less tired. If you need more, go to my web site and read up

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

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on September 14, 2011
at 12:26 AM

It does make sense. CLA is a good fat, one that is helpful for fat burning...and if you notice elsewhere on the list it mentioned the benefits of saturated fat to the body and states that it's good for us. I will also argue that Saturated fat is bad...blasphemy when I'm teaching for the AHA, but they've gotten a little more mild with their stance on this over recent years. :)

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on September 12, 2011
at 05:09 PM

good list but #5 doesn't really make sense. CLA is a fat. That's also assuming saturated fat is bad, which most people here would argue it's not.

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on September 08, 2011
at 12:08 AM

I thought turkey made you sleepy? Oh no, now I'M getting sleepy....zzzzzz

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

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on September 07, 2011
at 09:58 PM

Joy to go into more detail and hopefully be helpful to you, we'd need to know more about your diet. Like what do you eat throughout a typical day. Are there sugars in there causing problems? Artificial things? Maybe too much fat isn't good for you, it's different for each of us after all...I had to go through my typical daily diet and eleminate things one by one...and add new things one by one to solve my health issues. My diet is generally boring, but palatable to me....and I'm healthier now for the effort I put into it. Post up more detail about what you eat, how you exercise, etc...

D1728f99db66ff91d695a6df5cd38b02

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on September 07, 2011
at 05:25 PM

Possibly, the fish oil could be it... but I am not saying it is THE answer or the ONLY possibility.. i feel a bit better today and I took fish oil yesterday afternoon and this afternoon. But also I am forcing myself to only sleep 8 hours a day max to try and regulate my sleep pattern. It doesn't make me more tired by sleeping less, just the same as usual.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 07, 2011
at 03:49 PM

It doesn't matter if you have IBS, you can have fatigue symptoms without the mechanical digestive manifestations. Scallops are a miracle cure for fatigue. But go low fat first.

7cf45aaa9478fcef7dd16914088ce480

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on September 07, 2011
at 01:09 PM

Right on. If you are not 100% paleo there is a chance that your gut is jacked, which might explain your symptoms. Eliminate as much of the processed carbs and sugar as you can before pointing fingers at that sweet little innocent lump of industrial farmed meat.

B3e7d1ab5aeb329fe24cca1de1a0b09c

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on September 07, 2011
at 01:33 AM

+1 for beef top 10 goodness, so to speak.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 06, 2011
at 10:21 PM

I bet the sudden lack of fish oil is a factor here. Some people find it very stimulating, so much so they can't take it before bed.

D1728f99db66ff91d695a6df5cd38b02

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on September 06, 2011
at 10:01 PM

I only have IBS when I eat eggs and lots of grains... (not really the grains, but I'm sure they contribute). I don't get IBS from the meat at all. And I am a woman so the iron is cool, but yea grain fed could be a problem too.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 06, 2011
at 09:27 PM

What is your way to detox liver? herbs, teas, greens,?

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

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on September 06, 2011
at 08:36 PM

+1 for point number 10. Anyone think about the matrix when all food tastes like "chicken"?

A45af235ed4dd0b4f548c59e91b75763

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on September 06, 2011
at 08:33 PM

I eat around 3 lbs of ground beef a week, and the only thing that makes me sleepy is not enough sleep.

D1728f99db66ff91d695a6df5cd38b02

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on September 06, 2011
at 07:41 PM

I am about 28% body fat. Woot. So if most people have trouble sleeping and get better sleep from being tired, I can see how this is good. But I sleep too much.. and am more tired. I can sleep less but I am afraid that I will be even more tired if I don't sleep when my body tells me too.

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E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

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on September 07, 2011
at 01:32 PM

To those who made the couple of comments here about saturated fat making you sleepy - what are you basing that on? If it is personal experience, were you fully paleo-compliant at the time? Although everyone's experience is different, I find this statement really hard to believe and would think it more likely that there were grains/non-paleo carbs WITH that saturated fat that are the more probable culprits.

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095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

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on September 06, 2011
at 07:37 PM

Probably not. What most find is that when eating a higher fat diet they get more sleepy, more tired, and in the end, start sleeping better - more soundly at night. Then once that happens, they are more awake, more alert during the day. The grass fed "purists" will disagree because you are eating beef from grain fed cows and this is why you are tired.

I call them "cultists" because they seem to take paleo, primal, whatever they do the way a cult member would rather than someone who's simply utilizing these principals to make a healthier way of life, going strict to the point that most simply cannot follow it and won't stick to it, returning to eating S.A.D... (the standard American Diet) which we all know is unhealthy.

That said, I'm going to give you ten reasons you should be eating beef... I work with bodybuilders day in and day out, helping them make diet plans to bulk up and plans to cut down to be sub 10% - as close to 3% as they can get and not die...body fat levels and beef is a big part of that.

Here ya go...and this is not my list but I love it anyway...

10 reasons to eat beef

1) Beef contains creatine. Beef is particularly effective at increasing strength and promoting muscle growth because it has a higher creatine content that any other food. Creatine is a muscle's source of fuel for the first few seconds during training. And it allows you to train harder for longer periods by replenishing adenosine tripphosphate (ATP).

2) Beef contains carnitine. Chicken and fish are extremely low in both carnitine and creatine. Beef, on the other hoof, is packed with both. Carnitine is needed to support normal fat metabolism and contributes branched-chain amino acids (BCAAs), among the most important aminos for a bodybuilder in moss-building mode.

3) Beef contains potassium and protein. Potassium is a mineral that's lacking in the diets of most athletes. Low levels of potassium can inhibit protein synthesis, as well as the manufacture of growth hormone and IGF-l (the latter two are hormones utilized to stimulate muscle growth). Beef is also rich in protein: Four ounces of lean roast beef yield about 22 grams of first-class protein.

4) Beef contains alanine. Alanine is an amino acid that is used to make sugar from dietary protein. If your carb intake is low, alanine comes to the rescue by providing muscles with fuel to allow you to continue training. The beauty of alanine is that it spares muscles from providing the fuel for your heavy-duty workouts.

5) Beef is a low-fat source of CLA. There are cuts of beef that are low in fat. Eye of round steak, for example, is comparable in fat current to a lean chicken breast. Consider that fact that beef is replete with conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), a potent antioxidant that combats tissue damage from hardcore weight training. CLA has also been shown to preserve muscle mass by acting as an anticatabolic agent.

6) Beef contains iron. Iron is a blood-building mineral that is plentiful in beef, quite a contrast to the paltry amount of iron in chicken, and turkey.

7) Beef contains zinc and magnesium. Zinc is another antioxidant that contributes to protein synthesis and muscle growth. As with glutamine and B6, zinc reinforces the immune system. Magnesium supports protein synthesis, enhances muscle strength and improves the efficiency of insulin production, the body's primary anabolic hormone.

8) Beef contains vitamin B6. The higher your protein requirements, the more B6 you should add to your diet. There's enough vitamin B6 in red meat to beef up the immune system, which helps improve recovery from strenuous workouts while promoting protein metabolism and synthesis.

9) Beef contains vitamin B12. Vitamin B12 is essential to the production of red blood cells; those cells deliver oxygen to muscle tissue. It also helps metabolize the byproducts of BCAAs to furnish the body with energy for hardcore training.

10) Beef DOES NOT TASTE LIKE CHICKEN. Chicken breasts are pretty boring when eaten day after day for several weeks or months. Round steak, flank steak, sirloin steak and filet mignon all vary in flavor and texture. Even cheap ground beef is a nice change from the chicken thighs that Primal eaters and the chicken breasts that Cordain like Paleo eaters are so fond of...

D1728f99db66ff91d695a6df5cd38b02

(1368)

on September 06, 2011
at 07:41 PM

I am about 28% body fat. Woot. So if most people have trouble sleeping and get better sleep from being tired, I can see how this is good. But I sleep too much.. and am more tired. I can sleep less but I am afraid that I will be even more tired if I don't sleep when my body tells me too.

A45af235ed4dd0b4f548c59e91b75763

(1936)

on September 06, 2011
at 08:33 PM

I eat around 3 lbs of ground beef a week, and the only thing that makes me sleepy is not enough sleep.

B3e7d1ab5aeb329fe24cca1de1a0b09c

(5242)

on September 07, 2011
at 01:33 AM

+1 for beef top 10 goodness, so to speak.

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1801)

on September 06, 2011
at 08:36 PM

+1 for point number 10. Anyone think about the matrix when all food tastes like "chicken"?

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on September 07, 2011
at 09:58 PM

Joy to go into more detail and hopefully be helpful to you, we'd need to know more about your diet. Like what do you eat throughout a typical day. Are there sugars in there causing problems? Artificial things? Maybe too much fat isn't good for you, it's different for each of us after all...I had to go through my typical daily diet and eleminate things one by one...and add new things one by one to solve my health issues. My diet is generally boring, but palatable to me....and I'm healthier now for the effort I put into it. Post up more detail about what you eat, how you exercise, etc...

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on September 14, 2011
at 12:30 AM

And let me know if I can be of more help to you...

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on September 12, 2011
at 05:09 PM

good list but #5 doesn't really make sense. CLA is a fat. That's also assuming saturated fat is bad, which most people here would argue it's not.

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on September 14, 2011
at 12:30 AM

Joy, take your bodyweight x.72 to get your lean body mass. Now multiply that number x 10. This is your daily caloric need. Make yourself a diet consisting of about 60% fat, 35% protein, 5% carbs with carbs coming from green vegetables. Include some beef, some chicken, some fish, some pork, and some whole eggs in your diet. As you burn bodyfat away with this you will have improved quality of sleep and eventually end up being less tired. The increased GH from your exercise and diet will also improve quality of sleep and leave you less tired. If you need more, go to my web site and read up

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on September 14, 2011
at 12:26 AM

It does make sense. CLA is a good fat, one that is helpful for fat burning...and if you notice elsewhere on the list it mentioned the benefits of saturated fat to the body and states that it's good for us. I will also argue that Saturated fat is bad...blasphemy when I'm teaching for the AHA, but they've gotten a little more mild with their stance on this over recent years. :)

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C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

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on September 06, 2011
at 08:37 PM

What were you eating prior to this week? You say you're not 100% paleo. Were you eating higher carb than you are this week?

Could it be that you've drastically changed your carb intake and are suffering "low carb flu"?

7cf45aaa9478fcef7dd16914088ce480

(654)

on September 07, 2011
at 01:09 PM

Right on. If you are not 100% paleo there is a chance that your gut is jacked, which might explain your symptoms. Eliminate as much of the processed carbs and sugar as you can before pointing fingers at that sweet little innocent lump of industrial farmed meat.

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D1728f99db66ff91d695a6df5cd38b02

(1368)

on September 06, 2011
at 09:56 PM

Efaitch- I was eating mostly paleo through the week, not paleo on weekends and about 3 popcorn binges instead of dinner weekly.. yea pretty bad. Ive stopped the carbs so it could be the "low carb flu". I don't think so however, because this one time I went on Atkins and I experienced the worst of carb withdrawal, I was literally throwing up within 36 hours. I do like this explanation though, and if it is the case I just have to ride it out until I stop craving sugar, (I'm actually not craving carbs right now).

6f4425e3c7dc0efe60da531c5d991487

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on February 25, 2013
at 03:35 PM

+1 for admitting the popcorn binges. :)

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on September 07, 2011
at 02:43 AM

too much saturated fat can make you sleepy. try eating less ground beef. you can mix 80% ground beeth with 20% turkey.

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on September 08, 2011
at 12:08 AM

I thought turkey made you sleepy? Oh no, now I'M getting sleepy....zzzzzz

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 06, 2011
at 09:52 PM

Ground beef makes me sleepier and gives me IBS. It's the fat. Switch to lean and see if you do better.

It may also be a minor beef intolerance, from the grain-fed or just from the animal itself.

The problem is most likely the major change you made in your diet, high fat ground beef. Despite what the beef enthusiast above said, to a chorus of applause.

Also, the excess iron in beef is a problem for men, not a good thing.

D1728f99db66ff91d695a6df5cd38b02

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on September 06, 2011
at 10:01 PM

I only have IBS when I eat eggs and lots of grains... (not really the grains, but I'm sure they contribute). I don't get IBS from the meat at all. And I am a woman so the iron is cool, but yea grain fed could be a problem too.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 07, 2011
at 03:49 PM

It doesn't matter if you have IBS, you can have fatigue symptoms without the mechanical digestive manifestations. Scallops are a miracle cure for fatigue. But go low fat first.

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on September 06, 2011
at 08:19 PM

Maybe you need a liver detox. A sluggish liver can cause sleepiness...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 06, 2011
at 09:27 PM

What is your way to detox liver? herbs, teas, greens,?

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