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Paleo hackers and sleep apnea?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 23, 2011 at 10:18 AM

I've been suffering from sleep apnea for at least the last five years. My sleep study concluded that my Apnea-Hyponea Index (AHI) is 64. Anything over 30 is considered servre.

I finally recieved my BiPAP last week and today I finally was able to use it without any problems and noticed a difference with about 5-6 hours of sleep--a boost of energy, no desire to nap, and my thinking seems clearer.

I expect this will help in my weight loss.

Any other paleohackers with sleep apnea or no longer have sleep apnea? I'm curious of your experience.

Also, can some one refer me to a hack question, link, or just answer about how good sleep plays in weight loss/maintenance?

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http://paleohacks.com/questions/46722/how-do-i-lose-weight

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on May 24, 2011
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PaleoMouth- I also have sleep apnea, but didn't get tired in the middle of the day or gasped for air. My clues were that I was diagnosed with high blood pressure too young, and I sleep A LOT, and it is really difficult for me to wake up. My parents both have it, so I went to a sleep dr, thinking he would think I was crazy, but he said I most likely have sleep apnea - and I do! When I use my CPAP I need less sleep, and I wake up more quickly.

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on May 23, 2011
at 11:17 PM

Do you snore? Otherwise, I'd say check out your thyroid, or adrenal fatigue. Find a good naturopath, they're much more likely to find a good solution than modern medicine.

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on May 23, 2011
at 07:34 PM

Take note if you stop breathing in the middle of the night. Do you gasp for air? Have someone you know watch you sleep. The fact that you're always tired is enough reason to get tested. You'll visit a sleep doctor and they'll ask questions like I just asked. If they suspect something you can get a sleep study done. They'll wire you up to electrodes and then they'll just monitor your sleep. I have obstructive sleep apnea. There is also central sleep apnea, which is a neurological disorder.

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on May 23, 2011
at 11:49 AM

May I ask how you figured out (symptoms etc) to go have some sort of test for apnea? I am always tired and its been plaguing me since highschool and is giving me serious worries for my ability to work a full productive day in professional engineering. However I always stall on taking elaborate tests cause there are just so many factors it seems unlikely that I'd guess the right one.

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on May 23, 2011
at 10:58 AM

Been on a CPAP for sleep apnea for 17 years or so. About 6 months Paleo. I've lost 130 pounds over the last 13 months. I certainly sleep better, but still need the CPAP. I'm hoping that another 40-50 pounds when I reach my goal I'll be able to go off the CPAP, but I really don't believe that will happen. Good luck with your BiPAP. The CPAP saved my life - literally.

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on October 30, 2011
at 03:05 PM

I have had obstructive sleep apnea to some degree my whole life. I used to snore as a child, then as an adult, I would snore so loudly anyone within earshot would be amazed at the decibels I was putting out. I did 21 years in the military, and a diagnosis of sleep apnea meant a medical discharge. I tried mouthguards that kept your lower jaw jutted out (extremely hard to sleep with), oils (ineffective), and breath-right nasal strips (ineffective). When I was sleeping at home, my wife would hear me struggling to breath and poke me in the ribs til I turned on my side where I could breath better. When I was in the field, tentmates would throw boots at me til I turned over or got so deep in my sleeping bag they couldn't hear me. As soon as I had enough years in the military, I went for a sleep study--I was having 60+ apneas a minute! Got a CPAP but really resisted wearing it the first couple years. I felt it seemed like something only for obese or old people (I was kinda both at 40 and 210lbs). I eventually started wearing it every night and have used it religiously for 6 years now. After I started wearing it my weight shot up almost 40lbs. I had full-blown metabolic syndrome, got on all kinds of meds, felt terrible--but slept well! I started paleo in Jan 11 and am now at a healthy weight, off all meds, and CPAP is on half the setting originally prescribed (15 down to 8). The only problem I have now is keeping my masked sealed against my much skinnier face.

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on October 30, 2011
at 02:48 PM

Been on the hose since 1998 and Paleo for the last 1.75 years. Had a couple of sleep studies after losing around 100lbs and still have apnea. It is mostly caused by how your throat is built. Extra weight can be a contributing factor but is NOT the cause or cure for OSA.

I'm in a kind of rough spot right now. Not sleeping too well and feeling pretty rough in the mornings. I have central apneas as as well as obstructive apneas so I'm on a Adapt Servo Ventilator machine.

The ONLY way you can tell if your problem has been resolved is by another sleep study. Just "guessing" it is gone is really dangerous. The effects of untreated sleep apnea are pretty bad. My dad died at age 67 from congestive heart failure and had untreated OSA his whole adult life. Not something you want to fool around with.

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on May 23, 2011
at 11:15 PM

I have sleep apnea, had a c-pap machine for 8 or so years. It's been years since the prognosis, so I don't remember the exact numbers.

I noticed that inflammation is the worst thing for my sleep apnea. I went paleo several months ago and lost most of my inflammation. Gluten, wheat, sugar, dairy, and most surprisingly, chocolate all cause some sort of inflammation or swelling in my nasal passages. I cut out the chocolate and immediately lost most of the inflammation that was in my throat.

I'm hoping to lose the mask in the next year or so, or at least get it adjusted for a lower setting.

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on October 30, 2011
at 01:41 PM

Hi I have obstructive apnea and i have been using an apap for 5 years, since it was diagnosed. I gained a lot of weight with my babies- 13 years ago but before that i was always a size 6-7. Also before that my roommates and husband said i snored when i was that size.

so.. when i started paleo/low carb on April 11, 2011 i was 184lbs (5-2). I lost 22 lbs in the first 6 weeks and thought my apnea index would decrease (as i had been told for years it would) but it only went down on average of 10 to 9 at the most.

I got more of a decrease in pressure after my sinus surgery (prior to that it was an average of 12).

it is a myth that fat alone will increase or decrease apea- yes in many cases it helps. but i wonder if it was my allergies (inflamation?), then and now that continue to contribute to the obstruction.

Lisa

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on May 23, 2011
at 11:21 AM

I too was just diganosed w/APNEA, I have 45 apneas p/hour. I have been on my machine for about 5 weeks now. I sleep better, better rested in the morning, more engergy, all good things. Oh and I have been PALEO for about 5 months now.

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on May 23, 2011
at 11:49 AM

May I ask how you figured out (symptoms etc) to go have some sort of test for apnea? I am always tired and its been plaguing me since highschool and is giving me serious worries for my ability to work a full productive day in professional engineering. However I always stall on taking elaborate tests cause there are just so many factors it seems unlikely that I'd guess the right one.

2b4f887f5fd32a37c6038eb0aaaf3bf5

(1648)

on May 24, 2011
at 05:00 PM

PaleoMouth- I also have sleep apnea, but didn't get tired in the middle of the day or gasped for air. My clues were that I was diagnosed with high blood pressure too young, and I sleep A LOT, and it is really difficult for me to wake up. My parents both have it, so I went to a sleep dr, thinking he would think I was crazy, but he said I most likely have sleep apnea - and I do! When I use my CPAP I need less sleep, and I wake up more quickly.

F6ea948ab43dc51d72509c0989e670fe

(1639)

on May 23, 2011
at 11:17 PM

Do you snore? Otherwise, I'd say check out your thyroid, or adrenal fatigue. Find a good naturopath, they're much more likely to find a good solution than modern medicine.

Bd4be59f5bcfafc3d834d1ec8765eb9e

(336)

on May 23, 2011
at 07:34 PM

Take note if you stop breathing in the middle of the night. Do you gasp for air? Have someone you know watch you sleep. The fact that you're always tired is enough reason to get tested. You'll visit a sleep doctor and they'll ask questions like I just asked. If they suspect something you can get a sleep study done. They'll wire you up to electrodes and then they'll just monitor your sleep. I have obstructive sleep apnea. There is also central sleep apnea, which is a neurological disorder.

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on May 24, 2011
at 01:02 PM

My boyfriend has sleep apnea, and he's been 80% paleo for about 4 months. I think his snoring has improved somewhat, but I'm not sure how things went the last time he got tested. He just got diagnosed a little over a year ago- I noticed him stopping breathing in his sleep and urged him to get checked out. He feels much better after sleeping with his CPAP, but most of the time I have to nag him to use the dang thing... I think there is a sleep-cortisol connection (sleep deprivation leading to elevated cortisol), and there's certainly a cortisol-weight connection. I guess it's one of those vicious cycles- sleep apnea causes sleep deprivation, which causes elevated cortisol, which causes overweight, which often causes sleep apnea!

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on May 24, 2011
at 06:06 AM

I have a CPAP machine and it works great. 7 or more hours of sleep is best. (Not too much sleep though)

I often get only 4 and that is not good...

I have been down to my ideal weight and was retested but with no luck. Machine stays...

How to know you have it....

It sounds like previous poster might have it if you are tired during the day... At least worth a study.... Ask partner if you snore. I have seen a phone app for this but I am not sure how that app works... Likely a microphone?

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on May 23, 2011
at 11:04 PM

I had sleep apnea type symptoms and my dad is diagnosed with sleep apnea. Mine is due to congestion not weight so I was able to solve most of it by supplementing with 6 pills of 500mg quercetin a day (3 morning, 3 before bed) and two stinging nettle caps when the allergens kick up. I now sleep 1.5 hours less a night and no longer need a nap or caffeine during the day. Also a allergen cover for the pillow can help (if dust is your thing).

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on May 23, 2011
at 08:29 PM

I have obstructive sleep apnea, diagnosed about 18 months ago with one apnea a minute. I lost a little bit (1 or 2 kilos) when I begain treatment. I started eating paleoish around 8 month ago and have whatched the weight fall off since. The treatment is a life saver however paleo was the "cherry on top" for overcoming heath problems for me. I want to get retested soon as I use a high pressuer in my CPAP (15cm) and I have tp wear the mask tight to prevent leaks and this is uncomofortable. Like Rhonda above Im not confident I will ever be treatment free, but hey theres always a chance.

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